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Quote from: dustboy on March 30, 2017, 11:12:59 AM

How can MINI jackpot is bigger than MIDI and MAXI jackpot? Is it a visual bug on your new jackpot system? At the time I write this, midi = 62k bits midi= 12k bits maxi=32k bits mega=63k bits.
Is that how the new jackpot works? If everything is correct so playing with mini jackpot is the best option as we only need to pay 50sat per bet.

Edit : I think I know the reason, it is because most of your players prefer to play with the midi jackpot so it is increasing faster than the other jackpot.

Its their new jackpot system and other jackpots are set at their starting amount and they need more plays to grow and mini is there since launch and has not been recently won so it's bigger than other at the moment.
Mini jackpot is EV+ now as it is over 51k.

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How can MINI jackpot is bigger than MIDI and MAXI jackpot? Is it a visual bug on your new jackpot system? At the time I write this, midi = 62k bits midi= 12k bits maxi=32k bits mega=63k bits.
Is that how the new jackpot works? If everything is correct so playing with mini jackpot is the best option as we only need to pay 50sat per bet.

Edit : I think I know the reason, it is because most of your players prefer to play with the midi jackpot so it is increasing faster than the other jackpot.

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Hi Guys and Gals , we have set up the layout for the Dragons Wheel so it is more understandable and less confusing for people, the maths was aleways right, just how it was laid-out was confusing people !!

Hope that helps everyone and in the Middle is the BTCDragon Dragon, had it designed for the casino as its mascot and symbol , havent named him or her yet , might have to have a comp for that hmmmm

well enjoy and were still moving onward and upward for all you entertainment!!

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Quote from: staxxd on March 28, 2017, 08:34:18 PM

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Just launched our new game on MoneyPot

DRAGONS WHEEL

had a few small dramas but they are now sorted so come for a look https://btcdragon.com

It's a unique twist on the wheel game and I did enjoy being able to bet on the different possible outcomes but I don't understand how or why the HE is over 18%. Several of the other games on BTCdragon.com also seem to have a higher HE than most mp casinos I have played on. I am just confused as to why that is? Thank you for the creative and fun new games.

Hi staxxd yes if you read our main thread its all explained there and the HE has been sorted , it was noted to me and there was a small problem with the math but it has been sorted and thanks we are trying to bring in different games as for the house edge it has to do with probability, chance of winning and so on and goes back to the maths , some games just cant have a 1% house edge unless we manipulate the possible % of the outcome and thats not the way to do it cause if we did then the provably fair system wouldnt really be fair but , like the wheel there is 7 numbers that can come up ) over 52 positions on the wheel, so to double your money you have a 46% chance of getting that is you select and bet on the x1 position , and at the other end the x47 position , you have a 1.9% chance of getting that if betting on only won of them , and when the maths is done the house edge is 7.7% that we get back from Moneypot once they do there bit on the info that is sent , i mean we could make it harder to get the x47 times but that would mean modifying the % structure and well 52 positions is 52 positions so the % of getting any particular position is a fixed % , so 100%/52 positions = 1.92% and thats the way it has to be to be fair to all concerned then the HE is worked out on what positions you take and chance of win/lose , hope that helps a bit , but read it on the other thread mate or message me

Okay thanks for the quick reply!

Not to be rude but there are some major issues with this site/game. The game is simply not done correctly. There is no possible way to find your bet ID once the history page has passed the 100 on the moneypot history page for the site. Also, the math is totally wrong on the game. It says you've won more than you have on as far as I have seen every single multiplier. Here is an example.

Sorry but 11x2 is not 24. Just as 5x3 is not 18. The house edge has gone from over 18% to just under 8% but this is still insane. I can handle the high HE which is why I returned, but what reason is there for the incorrect math on the amounts won? When it says "won" 24 bits and I finally track down my bet ID (when I am able to catch it on the mp history page) and find out I win 9 bits I feel pretty cheated. I understand I opted to play for the jackpot and this costs some extra satoshi and that is fine but I hope that you can understand that these things make a difference in someone wagering 15 bits and 500 and until some solid improvements are made I don't think I will be playing here.

I hope you understand this is being said because I do like the direction the site is going and the attitude of the admin/mods I have encountered there and I would really love to see them succeed. I did notice there have been updates but it just seems like there is a lot of forward motion without much consideration going into making sure that the work you've already done is 100% where it needs to be before moving on. Best of luck!

edited to add link to image http://imgur.com/a/XMOy6

Ok staxxd 11x2 isnt 24 correct and maybe i will change how this is put it is the 22 you won plus you get back the 2 you originally bet as in 5x3 if you get it is 15 which you win plus you get back the 3 you originally bet

Ok with this particular bet

Ok you bet in total 15 bits

and you got 11x2 which means you won 22 bits plus got the 2 bits back that was bet the x11 position

so 24 minus the 15 bits that were the combination of all the bets = 9 profit on the bets for that game

But what it is showing the win on the particular position , maybe ill look at changing it also deducting bets on other positions as well.
Sorry for the confusion mate but the maths is correct maybe the way im displaying it, ill talk to dev when he wakes up

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on March 27, 2017, 08:24:05 PM

The faucet page appears all greyed out for me for some reason. Used to be all black text, but I still can claim the faucet so it can't be that I don't qualify for them.

https://i.imgur.com/l89mlTM.png

It's great that you added a thing to allow seeds to be changed, but I think you need an option to automatically generate a new seed after each bet on the client side, because theoretically, if MP wanted to cheat, and a player kept using the same seed, they could predict the future seed and generate a hash that would make the player lose.

ok will sort out the greying out actually just noticed that !!!

And understand what you mean will talk to dev about it , that is how it was before all seeds were random for everyone every game, but you can change your seed every game if you wish manually or by clicking new seed and it will give you a random seed but ill look at getting that done mate, Dev is in the land of nod atm , been working him to hard lol !!

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The faucet page appears all greyed out for me for some reason. Used to be all black text, but I still can claim the faucet so it can't be that I don't qualify for them.

https://i.imgur.com/l89mlTM.png

It's great that you added a thing to allow seeds to be changed, but I think you need an option to automatically generate a new seed after each bet on the client side, because theoretically, if MP wanted to cheat, and a player kept using the same seed, they could predict the future seed and generate a hash that would make the player lose.

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Hi Guys and Gals 2 updates to keep you all in the loop...

Firstly we have added a seeding function to all games

This can be found at the top of all games, you have the option to add your own SEED and then click SAVE SEED this will be used on all games you play within the casino including the Global Jackpot, you can change it at anytime and is save for your session, or you can click NEW SEED and it will create a random SEED for you .

The Second update is to the Global Jackpot System

As you can see there are now 4 Different Global Jackpots on the Board and this is how they work ..

The 4 different Global Jackpots are MINI, MIDI, MAXI and MEGA

MINI: 0.5 bits (50 sats) per Bet
   Minimum Jackpot 5,000 bits (500000 sats)
   Jackpot increase 0.25 bits (25 sats) per game

MIDI: 1 bit (100 sats) per Bet
   Minimum Jackpot 10,000 bits (1000000 sats)
   Jackpot increases 0.5 bits (50 sats) per game

MAXI: 2.5 bits (250 sats) per bet
   Minimum Jackpot 25,000 bits (2500000 sats)
   Jackpot increases 1.25 bits (125 sats) per game

MEGA: 5 bits (500 sats) per bet
   Minimum Jackpot 50,000 bits (5000000 sats)
   Jackpot increases 2.5 bits (250 sats) per game

You Click the box on which one or ones you want to participate in on the board and play whatever game you normally play!!
They all have the same ODDs to get just different levels, you can select 1 per game or all or a combination depending on your own decision.
If you Win they are credited to your balance immediately.
Minimum Jackpot is the minimum the jackpot will start at.
Saying this with only 50% of each bet added to the jackpot balance the other 50% will be used for funding faucets, used for the new jackpot balance and with this the minimum is only the minimum it will start at , this could be hire depending on the balance of the 50% that is withheld for example if the mini jackpot goes off at 40k bits in theory there should be 35k bits that were not added to the jackpot so we would look at starting the mini jackpot off at 15k bits instead of 5 k bits, but this will be determined when the jackpots go off, and also funds will be used for promotion and advertising as well.
The system has its own provably fair and uses the same system as monrypot, but doesnt uses Moneypots actual system as the Bucket system doesnt connect to it.
It uses the same way to work out the results (client-seed + secret) % ((2^32)-1) , it uses the same seed that either you have placed for all the normal games or a random seed if you havent put your own seed in like the normal system. We will have a page similiar to Moneypots system to put all the details on when you click the global jackpot bet ID, its almost done .

So i hope you enjoy the new features and there is way more to come!!

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Quote from: dustboy on March 27, 2017, 10:58:28 AM

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Quote from: dustboy on March 24, 2017, 12:05:17 PM

Just hit x5000 on the new line of the plinko game "Dragon's Breath", unluckily I hit it earlier when I play with small wager (only 5bits) and too bad the raw outcome is not enough to win the global jackpot LOL. Still, it is a nice win just from a small bet

https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1018632117

Congratulations Mate!!

Yeah thanks, proud to be the first who hit that and also thanks for tweeting it on your twitter account

But I want to complain something about the wheel game. It is not fun because the result as shown on my bets tab comes earlier before the wheel animation stop. Means that I know the result without waiting the wheel. If it is possible then I ask you to make the result come at the same time with the wheel stop or just after the wheel stop.

Ok mate will look into it

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Quote from: BITDV on March 24, 2017, 05:14:44 PM

Quote from: dustboy on March 24, 2017, 12:05:17 PM

Just hit x5000 on the new line of the plinko game "Dragon's Breath", unluckily I hit it earlier when I play with small wager (only 5bits) and too bad the raw outcome is not enough to win the global jackpot LOL. Still, it is a nice win just from a small bet

https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1018632117

Congratulations Mate!!

Yeah thanks, proud to be the first who hit that and also thanks for tweeting it on your twitter account

But I want to complain something about the wheel game. It is not fun because the result as shown on my bets tab comes earlier before the wheel animation stop. Means that I know the result without waiting the wheel. If it is possible then I ask you to make the result come at the same time with the wheel stop or just after the wheel stop.

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Quote from: LTC0 on March 26, 2017, 06:08:45 PM

Quote from: BITDV on March 26, 2017, 05:50:24 PM

Quote from: LTC0 on March 26, 2017, 03:31:18 PM

I played all games at BTCDragon and most of them are full of bugs...

Dice:
- Rolls are really slow and delayed for any bet size. Less than 1000 bets per hour while at other apps we can make 10k+ in hour.
- Autobet is not working it mess up multiplier instead of wager amount.
- Show only my games in history is not working.
- We are not able to change seed and see hash supplied by Moneypot so it is not provably fair.
- Can bet only under
Plinko:
- Bets on auto stop often and page reload is needed to continue playing.
- Also no seed, moneypot hash so it is also not provably fair.
Roulette:
- I was not able to play it when I place bet it freeze.
- Not provably fair
Slot games:
They also are not provably fair.
Possible win combinations are limited to 20-25 selected.

Balance is not displayed correctly it can go to negative, zero or any amount while in play.
Chat is weird and messages are delayed 2-3 seconds and it is hard to follow.
UI should also be criticized.

Ok Firstly You have been a member of MoneyPot for 12 months and dont know were to find the details for each game (seeds,salt and such)??
All games are connected to the MoneyPot provably fair system (the only one that isnt is the Global Jackpot which I have already stated previously, because it uses there Bucket system , we do use the same calculation and system, but just havent added those pages yet, it will be like the provably fair page we use in the Burst side of the casino) and all the details can be found by clicking the Bet IDs found in the main App page for the casino and here is example https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1021927279

So yes they are PROVABLY FAIR , as all Apps have to be connected to it, no there not displayed on every game individually as I believe it would clutter the screen up and make it to busy, but its not hard to go and look at it thru the MoneyPot site as you do have to login there anyway to log into any of the App's.
All App's on MoneyPot have to be connected to that, so unless you are saying all APP's on MoneyPot are not Provably Fair, then sorry I do have to disagree with you. Like i said all games are connected to the MoneyPot Provably Fair and all those details are available publicly.
Yes there are Bugs and thank you for Bringing some of them up , they are being worked on , such as the sometimes freezing/sluggish preformance, this is down to the hardware side and will also be rectified in the next few days.
The Dice is a basic version, which I have stated, but am and will update a few things on that in the coming days and weeks.
The site is evolving and the UI will change over time as will the chat , yes there is a 1 or 2 second delay, that is actually by design, until we work out a system that I am happy with for the chat system ..
Will look into some of the other Bugs that you have brought up to and to my attention..
But thank you for your time and your review, I do actually appreciate it !!

None of the games on your site are provably fair.
If it is provably fair we would be able to verify outcomes and pick our own client seed and server seed hash should be displayed prior the roll.
Currently you may have deal with Moneypot where they supply you loosing client seed and manipulate outcome (which in the end looks normal like on the screenshot you posted and it will verify to its own data)

Ok when the coder is awake ill get the client seed setting implemented

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Quote from: BITDV on March 26, 2017, 05:50:24 PM

Quote from: LTC0 on March 26, 2017, 03:31:18 PM

I played all games at BTCDragon and most of them are full of bugs...

Dice:
- Rolls are really slow and delayed for any bet size. Less than 1000 bets per hour while at other apps we can make 10k+ in hour.
- Autobet is not working it mess up multiplier instead of wager amount.
- Show only my games in history is not working.
- We are not able to change seed and see hash supplied by Moneypot so it is not provably fair.
- Can bet only under
Plinko:
- Bets on auto stop often and page reload is needed to continue playing.
- Also no seed, moneypot hash so it is also not provably fair.
Roulette:
- I was not able to play it when I place bet it freeze.
- Not provably fair
Slot games:
They also are not provably fair.
Possible win combinations are limited to 20-25 selected.

Balance is not displayed correctly it can go to negative, zero or any amount while in play.
Chat is weird and messages are delayed 2-3 seconds and it is hard to follow.
UI should also be criticized.

Ok Firstly You have been a member of MoneyPot for 12 months and dont know were to find the details for each game (seeds,salt and such)??
All games are connected to the MoneyPot provably fair system (the only one that isnt is the Global Jackpot which I have already stated previously, because it uses there Bucket system , we do use the same calculation and system, but just havent added those pages yet, it will be like the provably fair page we use in the Burst side of the casino) and all the details can be found by clicking the Bet IDs found in the main App page for the casino and here is example https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1021927279
https://i.imgur.com/003I5HV.png

So yes they are PROVABLY FAIR , as all Apps have to be connected to it, no there not displayed on every game individually as I believe it would clutter the screen up and make it to busy, but its not hard to go and look at it thru the MoneyPot site as you do have to login there anyway to log into any of the App's.
All App's on MoneyPot have to be connected to that, so unless you are saying all APP's on MoneyPot are not Provably Fair, then sorry I do have to disagree with you. Like i said all games are connected to the MoneyPot Provably Fair and all those details are available publicly.
Yes there are Bugs and thank you for Bringing some of them up , they are being worked on , such as the sometimes freezing/sluggish preformance, this is down to the hardware side and will also be rectified in the next few days.
The Dice is a basic version, which I have stated, but am and will update a few things on that in the coming days and weeks.
The site is evolving and the UI will change over time as will the chat , yes there is a 1 or 2 second delay, that is actually by design, until we work out a system that I am happy with for the chat system ..
Will look into some of the other Bugs that you have brought up to and to my attention..
But thank you for your time and your review, I do actually appreciate it !!

None of the games on your site are provably fair.
If it is provably fair we would be able to verify outcomes and pick our own client seed and server seed hash should be displayed prior the roll.
Currently you may have deal with Moneypot where they supply you loosing client seed and manipulate outcome (which in the end looks normal like on the screenshot you posted and it will verify to its own data)

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Quote from: LTC0 on March 26, 2017, 03:31:18 PM

I played all games at BTCDragon and most of them are full of bugs...

Dice:
- Rolls are really slow and delayed for any bet size. Less than 1000 bets per hour while at other apps we can make 10k+ in hour.
- Autobet is not working it mess up multiplier instead of wager amount.
- Show only my games in history is not working.
- We are not able to change seed and see hash supplied by Moneypot so it is not provably fair.
- Can bet only under
Plinko:
- Bets on auto stop often and page reload is needed to continue playing.
- Also no seed, moneypot hash so it is also not provably fair.
Roulette:
- I was not able to play it when I place bet it freeze.
- Not provably fair
Slot games:
They also are not provably fair.
Possible win combinations are limited to 20-25 selected.

Balance is not displayed correctly it can go to negative, zero or any amount while in play.
Chat is weird and messages are delayed 2-3 seconds and it is hard to follow.
UI should also be criticized.

Ok Firstly You have been a member of MoneyPot for 12 months and dont know were to find the details for each game (seeds,salt and such)??
All games are connected to the MoneyPot provably fair system (the only one that isnt is the Global Jackpot which I have already stated previously, because it uses there Bucket system , we do use the same calculation and system, but just havent added those pages yet, it will be like the provably fair page we use in the Burst side of the casino) and all the details can be found by clicking the Bet IDs found in the main App page for the casino and here is example https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1021927279

So yes they are PROVABLY FAIR , as all Apps have to be connected to it, no there not displayed on every game individually as I believe it would clutter the screen up and make it to busy, but its not hard to go and look at it thru the MoneyPot site as you do have to login there anyway to log into any of the App's.
All App's on MoneyPot have to be connected to that, so unless you are saying all APP's on MoneyPot are not Provably Fair, then sorry I do have to disagree with you. Like i said all games are connected to the MoneyPot Provably Fair and all those details are available publicly.
Yes there are Bugs and thank you for Bringing some of them up , they are being worked on , such as the sometimes freezing/sluggish preformance, this is down to the hardware side and will also be rectified in the next few days.
The Dice is a basic version, which I have stated, but am and will update a few things on that in the coming days and weeks.
The site is evolving and the UI will change over time as will the chat , yes there is a 1 or 2 second delay, that is actually by design, until we work out a system that I am happy with for the chat system ..
Will look into some of the other Bugs that you have brought up to and to my attention..
But thank you for your time and your review, I do actually appreciate it !!

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I played all games at BTCDragon and most of them are full of bugs...

Dice:
- Rolls are really slow and delayed for any bet size. Less than 1000 bets per hour while at other apps we can make 10k+ in hour.
- Autobet is not working it mess up multiplier instead of wager amount.
- Show only my games in history is not working.
- We are not able to change seed and see hash supplied by Moneypot so it is not provably fair.
- Can bet only under
Plinko:
- Bets on auto stop often and page reload is needed to continue playing.
- Also no seed, moneypot hash so it is also not provably fair.
Roulette:
- I was not able to play it when I place bet it freeze.
- Not provably fair
Slot games:
They also are not provably fair.
Possible win combinations are limited to 20-25 selected.

Balance is not displayed correctly it can go to negative, zero or any amount while in play.
Chat is weird and messages are delayed 2-3 seconds and it is hard to follow.
UI should also be criticized.

BITDV

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Quote from: dustboy on March 24, 2017, 12:05:17 PM

Just hit x5000 on the new line of the plinko game "Dragon's Breath", unluckily I hit it earlier when I play with small wager (only 5bits) and too bad the raw outcome is not enough to win the global jackpot LOL. Still, it is a nice win just from a small bet

https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1018632117

Congratulations Mate!!

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Quote from: dustboy on March 24, 2017, 12:05:17 PM

Just hit x5000 on the new line of the plinko game "Dragon's Breath", unluckily I hit it earlier when I play with small wager (only 5bits) and too bad the raw outcome is not enough to win the global jackpot LOL. Still, it is a nice win just from a small bet

https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1018632117

How long did it take for you to hit the multiplier ? For a small bet I have to say the profit is still quite nice. Now that you shared this i'm tempted to test the new lines gonna make a small deposit goin for the x2500.

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Just hit x5000 on the new line of the plinko game "Dragon's Breath", unluckily I hit it earlier when I play with small wager (only 5bits) and too bad the raw outcome is not enough to win the global jackpot LOL. Still, it is a nice win just from a small bet

https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1018632117

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BTCDRAGON CASINO UPDATES!!

Hi Guy's and Gal's for the First update we have added a new board to PLINKO with some Great win factors and have called it

DRAGON'S BREATH.

GREEN up to x1100 bet.
YELLOW up to x2500 bet.
RED up to x5000 bet.

The max amount you can bet is is dynamic , so click max bet next to the level you want to play and it will let you know the max that can be bet on that game, it is linked to the MoneyPot bankroll and follow there rules on that ...

The second update is the Global Jackpot, it has reached

It has been linked to all games so it is a TRUE GLOBAL JACKPOT!!

On the subject of the Global jackpot on sunday the 26th of march this will be increasing to 50 sats or 0.5 of a bit , why you ask
i would like to see this get larger for people to win and increase faster, of the 50 sats, 25 sats will be added to the global jackpot each game increasing it , the other 25 sats will be used for funding the faucets and also to have a base to start the next Global jackpot once it is won!!, so for only 0.5 bits at the moment you can win over 40k sats, if it doesnt go off before sunday, it will stay 20 sats/0.2 bits until then..
Also the Global jackpots provably fair system isn't connected to the one at Moneypot as it uses the Bucket system and cant be added , we have our own, the same , we will be adding in the near future that you click the game number on the provably fair page for the global jackpot and it will bring up a page like the one you see at Moneypot to see the details, so they are different systems, but use the same calculations to determine winners !! Just wanted to let you guys know that !!

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Quote from: joksim299 on March 20, 2017, 04:44:54 AM

I just checked some of bets on your new game and it's house edge can go up to 100%.

the house edge is changing by the way they put their bets. a circle split in 52 parts each one can do math how the Chance is to get a specified field in total there are seven different payout chances and the maths is worked out on the moneypot end on all chances and expected wins, you can win on any , just depends on bet amount and how many of the positions you take !!

are you saying MP is putting this high HE?

Roulette has 37 numbers and only HE of 2.7%

you should do the math again imo or your coder/dev

good luck with this game

No Im not saying MP are doing it but thats what the maths works it out to be and this actually has 7 number , well 6 numbers but 2 seperate x47, so seven different winning numbers, it is a very popular casino game

thx for the answer

so if it is not MP then it is you who is doing the HE

yea it is a popular casino game

but you could tell your dev to do the maths again because it is you= the app who is setting the HE

good luck in any case cause you have a very nice casino

ok sorry the details as you know get sent to the MP server and with the combination of chance, positions bet , and gets sent to Moneypot the house edge is worked out and placed on the bet my coder wrote this
so it's a chance of 46% for double 0.46 * 2 => 0.92

a Chance of 23.1% for x3 (4x wager on win) will be 0.231 * 4 = 0.924

a Chance of 15.4% for x5 (6x wager on win) : will be 0.924

7.7% on x11 (12x w on win) : 0.924

3.85% on x23 (24x w on win) : 0.924

1.92% on x47 (x48 w on win) : 0.9216

so the really houseedge for each game is nearly 7.6%
but in fact we Show all the possible bets with are set up to 0 wager and no possible win it would be not really right tracked, he doesnt speak good english so is sometimes hard to understand
and thank you

thx again for the in depth explanation

but to be frank I am a bit confused cause this bet has a HE of 53.85% according to MP and the bet was x1

this tells me that the bet was really with a 53.85% HE
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1012029282

as an ex app owner I know that the app owner needs to do the maths for the right HE

maybe I am wrong and will learn something new

cheers

Just went thru it and yes there was a tiny thing that was missed go and recheck i just did a bet https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1012103681
sorry for that , but its sorted now I do apologize and you actually twigged me and the coder to something !! So thank you mate!!

sure thing and always a pleasure to help even many thinking I dont

I have no problem if you or any app owner will take 50% or whatever he likes but I was sure it was a mistake and therefore I jumped in

you did a nice casino but you need a lot of luck and I wish you a lot of luck

Thanks mate and yeah we are trying to bring different games and things to the crypto realm , been here a long time and i appreciate it mate , were only human and it was something simple and actually small but can make a big difference at the well end result, and im not here to rip anyone off , just to make a fair earning from it and bring entertainment to people, yes i do want to make money, i would be lying if i said other wise but i dont like getting ripped off, so wont do it to others.
I have a lot more ideas and it will take time and money, but i will do it !!

JackpotRacer

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I just checked some of bets on your new game and it's house edge can go up to 100%.

the house edge is changing by the way they put their bets. a circle split in 52 parts each one can do math how the Chance is to get a specified field in total there are seven different payout chances and the maths is worked out on the moneypot end on all chances and expected wins, you can win on any , just depends on bet amount and how many of the positions you take !!

are you saying MP is putting this high HE?

Roulette has 37 numbers and only HE of 2.7%

you should do the math again imo or your coder/dev

good luck with this game

No Im not saying MP are doing it but thats what the maths works it out to be and this actually has 7 number , well 6 numbers but 2 seperate x47, so seven different winning numbers, it is a very popular casino game

thx for the answer

so if it is not MP then it is you who is doing the HE

yea it is a popular casino game

but you could tell your dev to do the maths again because it is you= the app who is setting the HE

good luck in any case cause you have a very nice casino

ok sorry the details as you know get sent to the MP server and with the combination of chance, positions bet , and gets sent to Moneypot the house edge is worked out and placed on the bet my coder wrote this
so it's a chance of 46% for double 0.46 * 2 => 0.92

a Chance of 23.1% for x3 (4x wager on win) will be 0.231 * 4 = 0.924

a Chance of 15.4% for x5 (6x wager on win) : will be 0.924

7.7% on x11 (12x w on win) : 0.924

3.85% on x23 (24x w on win) : 0.924

1.92% on x47 (x48 w on win) : 0.9216

so the really houseedge for each game is nearly 7.6%
but in fact we Show all the possible bets with are set up to 0 wager and no possible win it would be not really right tracked, he doesnt speak good english so is sometimes hard to understand
and thank you

thx again for the in depth explanation

but to be frank I am a bit confused cause this bet has a HE of 53.85% according to MP and the bet was x1

this tells me that the bet was really with a 53.85% HE
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1012029282

as an ex app owner I know that the app owner needs to do the maths for the right HE

maybe I am wrong and will learn something new

cheers

Just went thru it and yes there was a tiny thing that was missed go and recheck i just did a bet https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1012103681
sorry for that , but its sorted now I do apologize and you actually twigged me and the coder to something !! So thank you mate!!

sure thing and always a pleasure to help even many thinking I dont

I have no problem if you or any app owner will take 50% or whatever he likes but I was sure it was a mistake and therefore I jumped in

you did a nice casino but you need a lot of luck and I wish you a lot of luck

BITDV

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on March 20, 2017, 06:19:34 AM

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on March 20, 2017, 05:30:57 AM

Quote from: BITDV on March 20, 2017, 05:26:54 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on March 20, 2017, 05:17:20 AM

Quote from: BITDV on March 20, 2017, 05:14:28 AM

Quote from: joksim299 on March 20, 2017, 04:44:54 AM

I just checked some of bets on your new game and it's house edge can go up to 100%.

the house edge is changing by the way they put their bets. a circle split in 52 parts each one can do math how the Chance is to get a specified field in total there are seven different payout chances and the maths is worked out on the moneypot end on all chances and expected wins, you can win on any , just depends on bet amount and how many of the positions you take !!

are you saying MP is putting this high HE?

Roulette has 37 numbers and only HE of 2.7%

you should do the math again imo or your coder/dev

good luck with this game

No Im not saying MP are doing it but thats what the maths works it out to be and this actually has 7 number , well 6 numbers but 2 seperate x47, so seven different winning numbers, it is a very popular casino game

thx for the answer

so if it is not MP then it is you who is doing the HE

yea it is a popular casino game

but you could tell your dev to do the maths again because it is you= the app who is setting the HE

good luck in any case cause you have a very nice casino

ok sorry the details as you know get sent to the MP server and with the combination of chance, positions bet , and gets sent to Moneypot the house edge is worked out and placed on the bet my coder wrote this
so it's a chance of 46% for double 0.46 * 2 => 0.92

a Chance of 23.1% for x3 (4x wager on win) will be 0.231 * 4 = 0.924

a Chance of 15.4% for x5 (6x wager on win) : will be 0.924

7.7% on x11 (12x w on win) : 0.924

3.85% on x23 (24x w on win) : 0.924

1.92% on x47 (x48 w on win) : 0.9216

so the really houseedge for each game is nearly 7.6%
but in fact we Show all the possible bets with are set up to 0 wager and no possible win it would be not really right tracked, he doesnt speak good english so is sometimes hard to understand
and thank you

thx again for the in depth explanation

but to be frank I am a bit confused cause this bet has a HE of 53.85% according to MP and the bet was x1

this tells me that the bet was really with a 53.85% HE
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1012029282

as an ex app owner I know that the app owner needs to do the maths for the right HE

maybe I am wrong and will learn something new

cheers

Just went thru it and yes there was a tiny thing that was missed go and recheck i just did a bet https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1012103681
sorry for that , but its sorted now I do apologize and you actually twigged me and the coder to something !! So thank you mate!!

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