Topic: btcex.com looking for partners (Read 6694 times)

I have a gold/silver trading merchant account. Can legally accept and hold these currencies for trading:
$USD    €EUR    £GBP    $AUD    $NZD    $CAD     $HKD     $SGD     ¥JPY    DKK    NOK    SEK     VATU

I can take cash payments at any post office in Australia/NZ and online banking anywhere else. Also will have dwolla, CashU, and can accept Paymer cheques and cards to trade in WMR/WMZ. Working on Ukash, but it's expensive (7-8% merchant fees) plus takes too long to withdraw, may just screw them and pick another voucher system or replace it with cash buy orders.

Buyers can do a group bitcoin buy, i can hold payments until a desired amount and wire it all to either the Euro Finland account, or Swiss USD account and bulk buy or just transfer it immediately for hardly any fees.

Can send people a USD cheque to cash out coins, load debit cards, mail cash, send LR, up to $1999 anywhere in the world or $999 if you're in the US due to laws.

Should be ready to go in 2-3weeks once all the verifications go through (for webmoney). May do Euro Gold Cash as well, buy it from local exchangers here to trade.

(They look like crooks.)

No, I do not need the bank account. Need person with the country's currency account.

if you want bank account out of your country, you can check https://www.okpay.com/?rbp=612312365 see limits, verification looks easy.

Maybe Chinese people are interested in BTC - CNY exchange?

I have no problem with the translation - thanks to google translator We communicate in the email.

Well, if you have communication problem, you can ask my help -- looks like I can talk freely same language as bitcoinex (even interpret some of his false friend's between lines ) and live relatively not that far from sirius-m and (apparently) has same context

@bitcoinex вы мoжeтe пиcaть мнe "в личкy" нa pyccкoм

We need many exchanges distributed far and wide.

In Switzerland, I have a Postfinance acct
http://www.postfinance.ch/en/priv/prod/pay/abroad.html

Allows me to send payments by SEPA, Western Union, Cash International, Giro

I have never heard of the Cash International...
"Use Cash international to transfer cash or a cheque to a recipient abroad who does not have a postal or bank account.
"

"
The recipient
    * receives a specific payment document, depending on the country concerned, which can be exchanged for cash free of charge at the relevant foreign postal organization. The recipient will normally be required to provide proof of his/her identity
# or receives one or more bank cheques (in the case of countries in North and South America). The maximum amount per cheque is USD 2,000
# As a rule, beneficiaries may only pay cheques into their bank (account required). A fee is charged for cashing cheques
"

Currencies available with exchange at spot and future rates between them:

Swiss Franc
Euro
Australian dollar (AUD)   0.000%
Canadian dollar (CAD)   0.000%
Danish kroner (DKK)   0.000%
Pound sterling (GBP)   0.000%
Japanese yen (JPY)   0.000%
Norwegian kroner (NOK)   0.000%
Swedish kronor (SEK)   0.000%
United States dollar (USD)


SEPA transfers are free of charge. Fees for sending Western Union seem considerable cheaper using the online interface.
12 francs up to 300 and 5% upto 1K & 3% upto the max.

I'll partner in anyway I can.
Will find partners, investors to increase liquidity, setup an exchange in Switzerland;

bump

I am agree. We need moar exchanges

It's better if one person doesn't carry too much responsibility over the Bitcoin economy and community. But if you can't get a foreign bank account otherwise, maybe I can help you or find somebody reliable. I'll send you a PM.

I'd did not want to deal with the bank that opens an accounts by mail.

Also, best accounts in the Cyprus offshore zone. Maybe in a year one of my friends do it for me.


They can not advise me how best to break the laws. The fact that russian citizens is obliged to notify the State that they have an account abroad but nobody does it because it is dangerous from the standpoint of protection from the state.

Why you do not want to have a account in your country for exchange? btcex.com have an interface for this.

Unless there is some Russian law prohibiting it, you can open an account by mail:


You can contact Nordea's international banking department in Finland, or maybe the Russian office can also help.

Within Russia there is no foreign banks. Foreign banks are prohibited.

Banks with foreign names are Russian banks really. And they subjected to the same slow and shitty "currency monitoring" as "pure" Russian banks. Because that I can not organize a normal currency operations across the border of the country.

For creating foreign account it is need to travel outside of my country. I live in the geographical center, take a look at the map - approximately 3500-5000 kilometers to the nearest border, except for Kazakhstan, China or Mongolia.

I recommend taking a look at what Nordea bank has to offer. Nordea is a Nordic bank which also has offices in Baltic countries and Russia. Foreign corporate customers can open a bank account in Finland or another Scandinavian country. You can get a web login for your bank account. They also have an XML API, but it's rather complex compared to Liberty Reserve or Pecunix.

http://www.nordea.fi/Corporate+customers/Welcome+to+Nordea/International+branch/1148462.html
http://www.nordea.com/cm

I am did not understand anything here. familiar words but no sense

Well, say you pay me 100btc and donate 5btc to me, I return 95 in the currency you choose.. I use sterling, and um, well, paypal duzz indeed suck, but if the btc were actually any good to me, I'd be up for it, but this is just a suggestion, not an offer..

What do you mean "just send"? In mail? This is prohibited by postal regulations

Why not just send btc to people in what ever country / currency you require, and have them send the currency through whatever you normaly use for net transactions? I'm not an expert, but if I made a little from taking say 100 btc to send you £95, I'd do it.. I know the net is full of scammers, but there are some genuine people out there, and if you already know and trust them, why the banks?

Unless you find some good lawyers that can make bitcoin pass as a generic commodity exchange, and not currency, since it's not an official currency of any state.

Are the same demands applicable for gold and silver exchanges?

In Germany a license is indeed necessary.

This is from the german wikipedia (roughly translated):
In Germany a sole trader has no permission to operate a currency exchange. The forex business is one in ($1 paragraph 1a sentence 2 number 8 of the Banking Act (KWG)) to the banking business. Anyone who runs a currency exchange is therefore either bank or financial services institution.

To get a license (financial services institution) you need
- An equity of at least 750.000 EUR
- a very good business plan which gets prooved
- Very reliable CEOs and owners who studied something like business administration

So I think forget about bitcoin-exchange in Germany.