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Topic: Btcltcdigger Managed Lots Fraud bounty (Read 1002 times)

hero member
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To boldly go where no rabbit has gone before...
December 02, 2018, 05:24:31 PM
#28
Are you not able to escrow it yourself? There are some BM's who can do that. It's just a way to protect yourself. Anyways it's just a suggestion Smiley

No. In the end I'm only human, and I don't want to be tempted by a wallet with half a million $ in tokens sitting there.
legendary
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December 02, 2018, 10:24:34 AM
#27
1) Some ICO's don't want to do it
Isn't it obvious that if the team do not allowed their tokens to be escrowed, then maybe it is a potential scam in the end. Also, it is possible that you and your bounty hunters will not get paid by the end of the ICO.
Better practice should be to escrow invested funds and escrow shouldn't release funds until team pay bounty hunters.
2) Some ICO's can't do it as the tokens will be released on TGE
Is it hard to find those types of ICO's who's tokens can be released before Token Generation EVent?
Bounty hunters can also look for such projects and bounties. No one is forcing them to participate in bounties and advertise as much as they can projects.
3) There's hardly any trustworthy escrow services out there
Are you not able to escrow it yourself? There are some BM's who can do that. It's just a way to protect yourself. Anyways it's just a suggestion Smiley
Bounty manager is not escrow service.
sr. member
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Merit: 450
December 02, 2018, 05:45:43 AM
#26
1) Some ICO's don't want to do it
Isn't it obvious that if the team do not allowed their tokens to be escrowed, then maybe it is a potential scam in the end. Also, it is possible that you and your bounty hunters will not get paid by the end of the ICO.

2) Some ICO's can't do it as the tokens will be released on TGE
Is it hard to find those types of ICO's who's tokens can be released before Token Generation EVent?

3) There's hardly any trustworthy escrow services out there
Are you not able to escrow it yourself? There are some BM's who can do that. It's just a way to protect yourself. Anyways it's just a suggestion Smiley
jr. member
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November 28, 2018, 07:45:56 AM
#25
I am called to give a personal opinion as a bounty hunter, if asked whether I will follow all the offers The bounty available, the answer is no. I prefer and often I often go to the linked to make multiple msg before joining their bounty. related to bounty hosts, they also work for the same purpose of earning such income as me. Inclusion of ICO scams often occurs not only here but there are some cases in bounty0x, for bounty portal, bounty suit and bounty platform, I'm not sure because most ICOs are still in the TGE process.

therefore, under any circumstance for a bounty hunter always no guarantee both in terms of ICO scam, got a wipe or suspended, I also especially get a first warning from bitcointalk manager following in case "join the airdrop campaign" but the spirit to help introduce and promote potential ICOs always burn though I had to consider it as a charity work such as like humancoin cases. if asked whether I'm still follow to "btcltcdigger" the answer is yes, logically and rationally I always refer to the reason if there is a mistake, it helps me to go forward

the reality of the world, everything you do it is your decision,
so do not always look up to the sky but always see the land,
because here is your journal
to starting of life.

sorry my bad english
hero member
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November 25, 2018, 04:47:53 PM
#24
@btcltcdigger

Why don't you use escrow to avoid these types of accusation who can give you a negative image from these bounty hunter spambies? But the thing is, it would be difficult to convince the team members to use to escrow.

Maybe few good quality ICO's are enough.

3 reasons

1) Some ICO's don't want to do it

2) Some ICO's can't do it as the tokens will be released on TGE

3) There's hardly any trustworthy escrow services out there
sr. member
Activity: 1162
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November 25, 2018, 06:37:19 AM
#23
@btcltcdigger

Why don't you use escrow to avoid these types of accusation who can give you a negative image from these bounty hunter spambies? But the thing is, it would be difficult to convince the team members to use to escrow.

Maybe few good quality ICO's are enough.
hero member
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To boldly go where no rabbit has gone before...
November 24, 2018, 06:20:46 PM
#22
Let me put to rest this "Twitter account suspended thing"

Yes, if your twitter/facebook/reddit account gets suspended or banned, you loose your stakes.

Why? Because once it banned, every tweet/share/like you did gets wiped.

And more and more ICO's want to verify the work on their own, and if they don't see those shares/tweets, they ask me questions such as "why did you give stakes to that guy who did nothing"

legendary
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November 24, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
#21
how do you think about my case above ?

I know You don't want to hear such an answer @Segobebek but bounty manager has a full right to delete this stakes because of the bounty general or task rules.

I don't know for sure but assume that there is such a rule that if one gets banned or account suspended during the campaign all stakes will be deleted. Same rules I have seen many times not only for social media but for signature and all others campaigns. If one gets red trust all stakes are removed too if participants with red trust are not allowed.

Lately, the rules are a lot harder because bounty campaigns don't meet the expectations from ICO teams and don't work anymore as in 2017. There are no new investors despite thousands of people participating in the campaigns. In this bullish market, there are not many people willing to invest in ICO anymore.
hero member
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November 20, 2018, 11:00:00 PM
#20
This poor bounty manager put so much more effort from any of bounty hunters and didn't get paid same as You. So how can the manager be a scammer in such a case?
They hired him and promised tokens which they never paid. Lately, I don't see ICO's paying upfront in ETH or BTC only after fundraising in their coin or token.

Bounty is a gamble for everybody.
I dont think that bounty managers are paid also by tokens like bounty hunters, anyone can confirm this? In a bounty campaign paid by tokens hunters are the most affected once project turned to scam and we cant do about it since its not regulated but I strongly suggest to all bounty managers out there to please escrow the bounty tokens like julerz12, bountyhive are doing now, Dont start a campaign with no assurance that hunters will get paid in the end be responsible.
member
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November 17, 2018, 11:28:55 PM
#19
I don't understand why OP has such a problem with not paid bounty?

Remember 90% of ICO is a scam and will finally fail. Of course for bounty hunters is better when this happens after bounty distribution but this is not always the case.

Such ICO can even refuse to pay even if the hard cap is reached. In every bounty is a general rule that given ICO team can change the rules and refuse payouts without providing any reason.

Everybody knows that bounty hunting is a risky business, especially in the bear market  Wink.

This poor bounty manager put so much more effort from any of bounty hunters and didn't get paid same as You. So how can the manager be a scammer in such a case?

They hired him and promised tokens which they never paid. Lately, I don't see ICO's paying upfront in ETH or BTC only after fundraising in their coin or token.

Bounty is a gamble for everybody.

how do you think about my case above ?
legendary
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November 17, 2018, 03:30:10 PM
#18
I don't understand why OP has such a problem with not paid bounty?

Remember 90% of ICO is a scam and will finally fail. Of course for bounty hunters is better when this happens after bounty distribution but this is not always the case.

Such ICO can even refuse to pay even if the hard cap is reached. In every bounty is a general rule that given ICO team can change the rules and refuse payouts without providing any reason.

Everybody knows that bounty hunting is a risky business, especially in the bear market  Wink.

This poor bounty manager put so much more effort from any of bounty hunters and didn't get paid same as You. So how can the manager be a scammer in such a case?

They hired him and promised tokens which they never paid. Lately, I don't see ICO's paying upfront in ETH or BTC only after fundraising in their coin or token.

Bounty is a gamble for everybody.
member
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November 16, 2018, 02:53:04 AM
#17
Its proven about Btcltcdigger & cs bounty has scam bounty participants rewards.

Iam joined OIO bounty https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyoio-onlineio-change-the-internet-25m-bounty-rewards-3479652
Joined Facebook and Twitter Champaign.and suddenly my mew address has changed for Twitter Champaign.the Facebook Champaign still same.
also already fill proof of authentication : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36172523


my twitter register changed not same with Proof of authentication


my fb register


Iam already ask to OIO admin and tell me to ask CS bounty, but CsBounty not even give me Explanation about this and they said is my fault in beginning. iam already check my participant form and all is ok, dont know how can the spreadsheet is changed,who can do that Huh??

why i complaint after token distribution event done, because i already check my data is right,but dont know is changed all in the end







Second Dealjoy Champaign https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-deal-dealjoy-14-000-000-tokens-in-bounty-fund-4631237


Iam joined at the first time Dealjoy bounty started, and doing task every week till the campaign done.


Waiting spreadsheat come out about a month, and meantime my Twitter account get banned.
And manager delisting my Dealjoy stake , not fair at all
copper member
Activity: 266
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Kill E'm With Kindness
November 12, 2018, 03:35:54 AM
#16
I have been watching this topics since few days ago and I can't stop making a comment because I have seen that this accusations don't have a strong proof ! I have been a bounty participants of btcltcdigger campaigns since I started with this account and I have seen that they have a great team and a good management. I don't think that its good of you accusing the bounty manager and blame him/her of having a scammed bounty. Yes ! We cannot avoid that so many ICO's today are scam but they are not the one to be blamed & also they announced it in their group chat if they suspects that the ICO that they are managing is a scam for them to help their participants avoid wasting their time in some scam bounties. In addition its us the bounty hunters has the risk to take before joining any campaign & we cannot say a 100% if its really a scam or a legit project. Also you are an active participants of his/her bounty .. ^_^

To be real.. Ever since I started joining bounties with this account I only recieved 5 out of 20 bounties that I have joined in. Some are still distributing & some are totally exit scams but I don't blame any bounty managers because I am the one that has decided in the first place to participate in that bounty campaign ! ^_^
member
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November 11, 2018, 06:07:04 PM
#15
And overall is all Campaign Managed by Csbounty is worthless.
Closed bounty thread,pending payment,extra duration Campaign, all those make me worries.


Zecash,thinkcoin,aligato 2nd campaign,swissallpmining and etc ,those coin is unvalueable till now.
Zeex also fail after bounty end ( starting refund ) t.me/zeexme
Also on Orbis bounty channel on telegram, Dev said participants Will received rewards instantly but no one received

Hope this getting clear soon
member
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Merit: 11
November 10, 2018, 04:13:22 AM
#14
I actually like btclcdigger and I honestly dont think that it's his fault. Once he has the tokens he distributes them. And he'll gave whatever is a promised token. if there's one thing I don't like about the way he handle bounties, it's that you cant see gaining stakes on a weekly basis. but all in all i still like him better than other BMs
agree with you
Iam also join all bounty managed by him
member
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November 09, 2018, 09:11:39 PM
#13
I actually like btclcdigger and I honestly dont think that it's his fault. Once he has the tokens he distributes them. And he'll gave whatever is a promised token. if there's one thing I don't like about the way he handle bounties, it's that you cant see gaining stakes on a weekly basis. but all in all i still like him better than other BMs
member
Activity: 462
Merit: 11
November 09, 2018, 01:01:11 AM
#12
I've scanned mentioned ico's telegram and got info below easily.

Buglab distribution this week
ZeCash distributed long ago
VoxelX project seems dead?
Homelend distribution after crowdsale
Online distribution ongoing

 Huh Huh Huh

Maybe a bit of investigation before accusation?


And yes i think need more investigation
copper member
Activity: 378
Merit: 3
November 07, 2018, 08:17:31 PM
#11
I've scanned mentioned ico's telegram and got info below easily.

Buglab distribution this week
ZeCash distributed long ago
VoxelX project seems dead?
Homelend distribution after crowdsale
Online distribution ongoing

 Huh Huh Huh

Maybe a bit of investigation before accusation?
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 0
November 07, 2018, 09:25:12 AM
#10
This is a shit thread. Everybody can post what they think withouth having proof.
Giving Scam accusation without having any type of proof that this bounty manager promotes fraudulent bounties? This is not a good practice.
Perhaps, you should improve your posting first to just even earn at least 1 merit.

I think btcltcdigger might not have anything to do with the bounty to be a scam but in his reply too out of three campaign , he only said 1 distributed and didn't say a word on the remaining 2 which means there is fault at that angle, and I know of two to three bounty he handle that has not paid till now even the first one in the post , claimed to have lost Google sheet for submission and till now fail to distribute and we still have some like HOMELEND , OIO , though they might not turn out to be scam at the end but he has the bounty manager don't show care when his participants are not getting their reward and more why I don't participate in his campaign any more .

Don't judge people base on merit as you also don't have that skill to get merit and merit getting is not really a must as we all know that it has turn to biz and when was the last time you got merit if not that you had privilege to registered early to be ranked , so don't think people not getting merit are not having skill to but the circumstances around the merit now cause it and I can point out thousands of post that don't worth given a merit.
member
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November 07, 2018, 09:00:56 AM
#9
I don't know what happend here
I just know Manny bounty Ico managed by Cs bounty is easily  turning to scam Ico bounty
For example
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-deleted-4446991
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyzch-zecash-ze-next-bitcoin-15-000-000-rewards-3229753
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountygray-voxelx-beta-product-live-300m-token-reward-1500-eth-3255629


Hope someone have explanation about this situation

My advice if this is applicable to you but please don't offend. If you start to make some accusation at least your detail and evidences must completed first. Before to show on the policeman or call some lawyer to shown your all evidences. Because if not, You're only creating an scandal that all people around you wouldn't be okay.
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