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May 05, 2013, 07:11:59 PM
#22
The 10 days bitcoin chart:
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=btc-usd&market=btc-e

10 days ago btc was higher in value than today, still ftc is less btc's worth now than then. This chart is actually more drastic than it would have you believe...

And it is still way overvalued, LTC traded at 0,001btc in the beginning, and LTC wasn't a 1:1 copy and actually brought something new. So thinking this graph will change is actually pretty silly.

Expand that chart out to a year or better and you can make the same argument for Bitcoin. My point is simply basing what a coins long-term prospects are by looking at a few days worth of graphs and proclaiming its demise (or success) is pointless. FTC may very well disappear, or it may decline in value some more only to slowly regain its value over time and ultimately become worth way more than when it first hit BTC-e.

One point I will agree with is that all the alts, at least for right now, live and die by BTC. If BTC heads back to $270, even the 0.002 FTC/BTC will be pretty profitable.

I tend to play both the short-term and long term positions with all the coins. If I can get in a mine a bunch at launch, I will sell maybe half up-front to take some profit, and just sit on the other half for the longer term. I am not too worried what happens over the next days/weeks as I am months/years.
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May 05, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
#21
Then why did LTC flounder at around $.05 for months on end?
Because that was what it was really worth then, it takes time for a coin to grow, that means months and not days. 
$0.01 - $0.02 would probably be a reasonable and healthy value for ftc at this point from which it could slowly grow. 
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May 05, 2013, 06:36:55 PM
#20
Then why did LTC flounder at around $.05 for months on end?
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May 05, 2013, 06:34:14 PM
#19
lolwut? FTC doubled it's price when it Hit BTC-E, right now it's 150% of what was trading for before it hit BTC-e
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=ftc-btc&market=btc-e

yeah, looks healthy to me  Cheesy

At a recent 0.0033 FTC/BTC, and with BTC trading at $115, that works out to 37.9 cents per FTC. Not bad for a coin less than a month old. Also, some of those highs were when BTC was trading sub $100, for example 0.0044 when BTC is at $90 works out to 39.6 cents. Not as drastic of a change as the charts would have you believe.

Also, markets do not go continually straight up. Basing whether a coin is healthy or not on a few days of trading is just silly.
The 10 days bitcoin chart:
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=btc-usd&market=btc-e

10 days ago btc was higher in value than today, still ftc is less btc's worth now than then. This chart is actually more drastic than it would have you believe...

And it is still way overvalued, LTC traded at 0,001btc in the beginning, and LTC wasn't a 1:1 copy and actually brought something new. So thinking this graph will change is actually pretty silly.
sr. member
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May 05, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
#18
lolwut? FTC doubled it's price when it Hit BTC-E, right now it's 150% of what was trading for before it hit BTC-e
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=ftc-btc&market=btc-e

yeah, looks healthy to me  Cheesy

At a recent 0.0033 FTC/BTC, and with BTC trading at $115, that works out to 37.9 cents per FTC. Not bad for a coin less than a month old. Also, some of those highs were when BTC was trading sub $100, for example 0.0044 when BTC is at $90 works out to 39.6 cents. Not as drastic of a change as the charts would have you believe.

Also, markets do not go continually straight up. Basing whether a coin is healthy or not on a few days of trading is just silly.
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May 05, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
#17
You probably haven't seen what bter had done to CHn today  Grin
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May 05, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
#16
lolwut? FTC doubled it's price when it Hit BTC-E, right now it's 150% of what was trading for before it hit BTC-e
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=ftc-btc&market=btc-e
yeah, looks healthy to me  Cheesy

We will see what happens at next difficulty adjustment in a couple of hours..
I'm expecting a jump from 122 to 190+.
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May 05, 2013, 05:51:40 PM
#15
lolwut? FTC doubled it's price when it Hit BTC-E, right now it's 150% of what was trading for before it hit BTC-e
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=ftc-btc&market=btc-e

yeah, looks healthy to me  Cheesy

Woot? Your chart has no info of the price before hitting BTC-E which is what I was arguing  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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May 05, 2013, 05:50:18 PM
#14
lolwut? FTC doubled it's price when it Hit BTC-E, right now it's 150% of what was trading for before it hit BTC-e
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=ftc-btc&market=btc-e

yeah, looks healthy to me  Cheesy
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May 05, 2013, 05:43:56 PM
#13
I didnt do the math, my main reasoning though, is once on the trading site the coin's price gets inflated, dumped and loses its appeal.
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May 05, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
#12
this is true. 1 or 2 weeks ago on this board at least 50% posts are about Feather coins, now is 1%?

Strong understanding.

Now that FTC was dumped for big bucks their next project (BitBar) is gaining attention through the same publicity stunt. Rinse and repeat.

Feathercoin and BitBar have absolutely no connections between the developers. You're far too paranoid Smiley

There are a lot of people working to further FTC on several levels. Just because you cannot see it on the forum does not mean that it is not happening. Feathercoin is going to be around for quite some time.

Well I can't confirm or reject that they have same developers because BitBar is anonymous, but the strategy is exactly the same with the publicity stunt.
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May 05, 2013, 05:34:40 PM
#11
this is true. 1 or 2 weeks ago on this board at least 50% posts are about Feather coins, now is 1%?

Strong understanding.

Now that FTC was dumped for big bucks their next project (BitBar) is gaining attention through the same publicity stunt. Rinse and repeat.

Feathercoin and BitBar have absolutely no connections between the developers. You're far too paranoid Smiley

There are a lot of people working to further FTC on several levels. Just because you cannot see it on the forum does not mean that it is not happening. Feathercoin is going to be around for quite some time.
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May 05, 2013, 05:28:19 PM
#10
Its seems as though once a coin hits BTC-e , it quickly dies and gets the living crap beat out of it in those pump and dumps.

Que? Feathercoin wenbt up several 100% the instant it it BTC-E. The only reason it's not spammed about on the forum anymore is that there is no reason for the early miners to talk about it to be able to dump it for BTC, they can just sell their 100.000s of coin on BTC-E instead.
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May 05, 2013, 05:26:26 PM
#9
Exchange rates for altcoins these days seems to follow a St. Petersburg lottery: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Petersburg_paradox



There, you learned something new today.
sr. member
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May 05, 2013, 05:26:18 PM
#8
this is true. 1 or 2 weeks ago on this board at least 50% posts are about Feather coins, now is 1%?

Strong understanding.

Now that FTC was dumped for big bucks their next project (BitBar) is gaining attention through the same publicity stunt. Rinse and repeat.
sr. member
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May 05, 2013, 05:26:06 PM
#7
I'm dumping the last of mine, simply too many clone coins!
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Own ONION
May 05, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
#6
this is true. 1 or 2 weeks ago on this board at least 50% posts are about Feather coins, now is 1%?
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May 05, 2013, 05:21:20 PM
#5
It's dollar value is approximately 37 cents... That's pretty good I think  Smiley
Very good.
legendary
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May 05, 2013, 05:18:36 PM
#4
It's dollar value is approximately 37 cents... That's pretty good I think  Smiley
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May 05, 2013, 05:14:52 PM
#3
Its seems as though once a coin hits BTC-e , it quickly dies and gets the living crap beat out of it in those pump and dumps.

No. You are wrong. (As much explanation as you gave)
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