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Topic: [Bug forum?] Name: Giratina, Merit: -1926 (Read 616 times)

legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 14, 2019, 12:34:05 AM
#26
There doesn’t appear to be any policy in place removing merit.
Sure about that?
There is a higher standard for merit sources, however it is not unreasonable to put additional (retroactive) rules on merit sources because this merit effectively comes directly from theymos.

Well I am glad I have your assurance it is ok. I am sure this will not be abuse like every other tool he has created relating to trust.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
February 13, 2019, 09:03:57 PM
#25
There doesn’t appear to be any policy in place removing merit.
Sure about that?
There is a higher standard for merit sources, however it is not unreasonable to put additional (retroactive) rules on merit sources because this merit effectively comes directly from theymos.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 13, 2019, 08:33:46 PM
#24
There doesn’t appear to be any policy in place removing merit.
Sure about that?
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
February 13, 2019, 06:30:40 PM
#23
Whenever theymos “demerits” someone, there will be a -X merit comming from “Bitcointalk forum” in the user’s merit history. And he only does that in some specific cases of merit abuse.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
February 13, 2019, 05:14:39 PM
#22
Just what we need, more back door shady ways to decimate people's accounts with zero public accountability. I am sure nothing bad will result from this...
This was a bug....and has been corrected. There doesn’t appear to be any policy in place removing merit.

That's a bug.

The merit number is a cached value derived from the merit ledger. I think that the number got out of sync and weird here due to a bug which existed for a short time last week. The number would've corrected itself the next time this user received any merit.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 13, 2019, 04:59:34 PM
#21
Just what we need, more back door shady ways to decimate people's accounts with zero public accountability. I am sure nothing bad will result from this...
hero member
Activity: 1680
Merit: 655
February 13, 2019, 02:48:13 PM
#20
The number would've corrected itself the next time this user received any merit.
~snip~
Upon checking the account on BPIP it showed up that he did received merits from this post so he is technically a Jr. Member by that point. So if we followed what theymos said maybe sending him a merit would may fix also fix his rank, which I'm not willing to do. Nothing in the account's post history is meritable for me so I am not willing to test my theory out.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
Bitcoin = Financial freedom
February 13, 2019, 12:33:54 PM
#19
The number would've corrected itself the next time this user received any merit.
It looks like the bug has corrected itself,even without any merit received for that user.

Now the user has 2 merits but still the rank didn't changed to Jr.Member,might be an another bug. Huh

legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1232
February 13, 2019, 11:47:23 AM
#18
Thanks, theymos.

Okay, I'm wrong about the report to admin function, which is unrelated. But, kind of strange coincidence that I reported that PM and he/she is the only user with that kind of –merit.
Seeing someone honestly admit s/he is wrong is kind of positive as a person in you @theyoung. You might have triggered the negative merit of Giratina bug. S/he was jr. 2 weeks ago and you got online January 28,2019 which is to weeks ago, assuming you reported it when you got back,  & just a thought theymos, cyrus, hilariuos, mpep & smallrick. one might have click a button on it. Ain't sure though.

Don't get me wrong just a fan. Grin
sr. member
Activity: 458
Merit: 265
February 13, 2019, 09:32:55 AM
#17
That's a bug.
Thank you for clarification theymos Cheesy

Please can you also solve one more such mystery here. I think its too a bug. But you clarification will matter. (The different thing here is the accounts are registered in 2018)

Theymos, can you solve the mystery? newbies with 2 merit watering avatar?
sr. member
Activity: 375
Merit: 1021
Just in case no one loves you, I love you 3000.
February 13, 2019, 09:22:57 AM
#16
That's a bug.
Thanks, theymos.

Okay, I'm wrong about the report to admin function, which is unrelated. But, kind of strange coincidence that I reported that PM and he/she is the only user with that kind of –merit.
member
Activity: 168
Merit: 15
Future of Security Tokens
February 13, 2019, 09:08:19 AM
#15
So the issue has been manually corrected, and the account displaying correctly. It's surprising the account owner did not make a complaint personally.
This gives an idea of what the admins can actually do with merit and possible demerit features. We would probably never get any of the latter.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
February 13, 2019, 09:03:48 AM
#14
That's a bug.

The merit number is a cached value derived from the merit ledger. I think that the number got out of sync and weird here due to a bug which existed for a short time last week. The number would've corrected itself the next time this user received any merit.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 4295
eXch.cx - Automatic crypto Swap Exchange.
February 13, 2019, 07:38:12 AM
#13
Why wait for theymos when we can experiment on the account and come out with some hypothesis. If this user owns a demerited account that means every merit you send to user gets deducted from what he is owing the forum so lets say you sent him 1 merit (for any quality post he has made before) and the merit number reduced to -1925 that means it's a demerited account but if the merit increase to -1927 it means that's just another bug on forum.

Would had done the experiment myself but don't have smerit to spare. You know, demerit system might contribute even more in the fight against low quality posting. Just saying,,.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
February 13, 2019, 07:07:44 AM
#12
He was buying merits and you reported him... Right?
So that got him demerited?
If that's the case, I'm curious what made Admin take away 1928 Merit from a user who had only 2. And if it's a punishment for spamming, why not just ban the user?
sr. member
Activity: 458
Merit: 265
February 13, 2019, 06:40:41 AM
#11
It is pretty weird to see negative merits on someone's profile. Of course it is a bug as there is nothing like negative merits applied until now by theymos.

Also the user Giratina has not posted anything from Aug 15, 2018, which points that it is nothing intentional or something like a hack, rather a bug for sure.
sr. member
Activity: 375
Merit: 1021
Just in case no one loves you, I love you 3000.
February 13, 2019, 06:08:39 AM
#10
Buying and selling merit not from sources is allowed by the forum, somehow...
AFAIK, buying and selling are disallowed.
Can I sell merit?

Selling merit is disallowed.


copper member
Activity: 2856
Merit: 3071
https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
February 13, 2019, 05:58:46 AM
#9
@leo, As a question, can your parser parse negative merit? I don't know it would be able too anyway it'll be interesting to see if anyone knows anything about this.
. I can't think it's an old bug, maybe Theymos has given out demerits or made a few sources to even out the field...
I don't think we having demerit options,because I can see only merit button.Even if it is given for selective people we may already had announcement on META so it must be a bug need to sorted out soon.

Not everything is announced to meta though... An alt board mod could be a demerit and hopefully will if it does/has come out.



Merit isn't moderated unless it's from sources.
Buying and selling merit not from sources is allowed by the forum, somehow...

copper member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1814
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
February 13, 2019, 05:40:07 AM
#8
Such case is based on Report to Admin function.

Sample of PM sent by user Giratina and got reported to admin.
hi can i ask help
i will pay if you help me

When admins found out that it is a valid case, they will undo any merit given to a certain user. There are many reporting functions here in our forum and I manage to experienced using them.
He was buying merits and you reported him... Right?
So that got him demerited?
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1540
February 13, 2019, 05:30:47 AM
#7
very interesting. somehow I see this bug as a solution for the spammer or plagiarism.
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