Topic: Buggy Unlimited crashes, AGAIN!! Price rallies. - page 2. (Read 1154 times)

The price was up anyway, it's irrelevant whether or not the number of BU nodes went down.  The BU nodes are only a tiny percentage of the total nodes anyway because Core is the reference client.  It really is pointless to pick out a correlation and argue that it means something.  A meaningful correlation would be something like:  "Known Bitcoin users' average lifespan is decreasing and the amount of lost coins is rising".

Note to franky - SegWit is a backwards compatible protocol upgrade.  It's impossible for it to be an altcoin.  Hard forks, however, are not backwards compatible.  Equally, people who owned Bitcoin in 2014 automatically owned CLAM as well, doesn't make CLAM Bitcoin.

Nobody is against Bitcoin Unlimited forking and becoming what it is (an altcoin).

What we don't want is what they are doing: Trying to subvert BTC so they get to steal the BTC token. It's all a war for the BTC token, nothing more.

If they really thought their solution was better, they would fork already and use their own token and compete against BTC and people would freely choose, but they choose drama instead, at expense of every holder.

Lol that's a huge downward spike. That's awesome. Hopefully they don't fully recover each time from these "tiny bugs" and we can all move on with good software. Maybe BU should just help out Litecoins or some other alt hahaha.

Exactly that is the positive advantage of having a diverse code but even if it is an advantage it will also bring great disadvantage and trouble if not being monitored. But anyway the most important thing is that even if BU crashes or Segwit crashes the most important thing is that bitcoin continues to exist and still growing and increasing in value.

Music to my ears. It's just a matter of time until BU dies any way, feel free to quote me.

if you read passed the reddit drama and look at reality
a successful hardfork is ONE chain of united community agreeing that all upgrading to a new consensus rules is good.

a hard fork is not a guarantee bilatral split. and if you look at who are the protagonists screaming to cause a split. its the core fans and devs that want to split.

rekt campaigns "just f**k off"
rekt campaigns they dont agree so we need to MASF and UASF them away to their own chain and make them program a no replay attack

meanwhile the MANY implementations that want to stick with a diverse decentralised PEER network have actually laughed and declined core devs invitation to split.

in short you should have said:
in a UNsuccessful hardfork there might be a split with a altcoin, where the minority becomes the altcoin

It's funny how you always find a way to ignore reality and assemble your arguments in a way that makes you think you are correct. "Oh he said segwit instead of BTC, lol he admited it's an alt!!"

It's time to adjust reality with facts: Coin adopting Segwit = price up. BUcoin crashing = price up.

They're blaming them the same way they blamed them last time - their buggy client is crashing by running out of ram due to an x-thin block bug. They claim that core and/or blockstream is DDoSing them intentionally although they can't actually find evidence of it. Even if it IS someone DDoSing them, it's a given with there being so much value in bitcoin that attacks will be a routine part of operation and clients should be hardened against all forms of attack. Additionally this is the same bug they had last time; they didn't even fix it, and that makes it the 3rd critical bug they've had in the x-thin code. The x-thin code is one of their only unique features in the BU client and one of their claimed workarounds for transmitting large blocks across the network - but now they're recommending people disable it as a workaround. Add to that the thought that parallel block validation will help somehow - and that will use even more ram so regularly running out of ram seems intrinsic to their design at the moment...

Once more the same BU morons will just put it down to yet another simple bug that's easily fixed and nothing to worry about blah blah blah... even though the thought of a 2030 billion dollar industry that was this unreliable would be terrifying. The only nodes that have stayed up are those on mega servers with >64GB ram. Of course mining pools that are advertising BU support in their coinbase are NOT affected since they don't trust the BU client software; they're just using the core software with a customised coinbase signature - they'd never trust their mining operations to the buggy BU client.

Note I'd already created as similar thread here but since I made it self moderated it didn't attract the attention of the full time anti-core brigade.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/major-crash-no-5-for-bu-nodes-1908442

How is segwit an altcoin? Please explain. Segwit is a soft fork, a protocol upgrade, not an altcoin. You can make an altcoin out of segwit (and there are some already) as you can make one from almost anything.

BU will be the altcoin if it ever manages to succeed HF.

ignoring the BU vs core drama and only thinking about the decentralised PEER network

this is why its good to have diverse brands/code bases.. if one brand goes down. the network continues as if you dont know something happened unless specifically looking for it

atleast you are admitting subtly segwit is an altcoin instead of your old rhetoric that segwit is bitcoin and anything else running on bitcoin is the altcoin. one step in the right direction.

as for the social drama of bu vs core.
funnily core has a speak no evil about their own bugs for 30 days after fix is released, but REKT anything not core as soon as issue is found.
very professional and independent (sarcasm)

read all the core devs saying how release info on exploits within 30 days of fix is bad.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10364

kinda hypocritical

Another day, another crash for Buggy "production ready" Unlimited. I wonder how they will blame Core devs this time?

Meanwhile, BTC rallying past $1700+.

If only we could activate segwit, we could hit $10000 in no time, but LTC is going to go down in history books as the first lightning network transaction in a real blockchain (not testnet). It will get all the good news and it will hit to ATH. All this money (billions) could be on segwit if we weren't on this stalemate situation.