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Quote from: Mbah Tyo on February 18, 2017, 07:17:14 AM

you are sure it will work, because to build a bank that takes huge amounts of money and takes a lot of branches to facilitate its customers,
I hope you succeed

to create a bank. I think you need a solid team so that you can create a good bank and has a name in public. if you do not want to work hard as a do promotion. you will not be able to make a bitcoin bank

i agree with you they will need a high security for their bank and they will be make a trusted relation with their customer then they can get success and if they build a bitcoin they will be provide bitcoin loan for their customer ?

i also not in favour of bitcoin banks as i do not want to face the previous complicated process of banking system. i want the present system of wallet to continue it as it is running as it is the most secure and easiest way of making money.

Yes, for me Bitcoin - is ease of use. I do not want that between me and my Bitcoins were intermediaries. I do not consider the creation of such a bank a good idea

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Quote from: sportis on February 25, 2017, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: bit-emperor on February 25, 2017, 04:52:37 AM

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i understand about the anonymous system of bitcoin, but the weakness of bitcoin is for example you save your bitcoin on the wallet dekstop, and then your hardisk is damage its mean that you will lost all of your bitcoin on your HDD, but if you save your bitcoin on the Bank Of Bitcoin it will not happen..because the Bank of Bitcoin will guarantee all of your bitcoin you save on that bank of bitcoin.

I would like to say that is wrong to believe that bitcoin is anonymous. In reality is only 'pseudonymous'. Given that bitcoin transactions are stored in the blockchain, anyone can link your network address with your real identity, say that you buy/sell and has to give the real name and address, can compromise your anonymity. For this reason and not only for criminal activities some people use mixing services. Furthermore, if anyone's HDD crashes or loses his smartphone with his bitcoin wallet app easily can spent his coins if and only if remembers his recovery seed. Bitcoin bank is completely useless for the above reasons

Off-chain transactions will iron out this disadvantage

And then Bitcoin will become more anonymous. In fact, you can already move bitcoins without your transfers being written on the blockchain for everyone to see and analyze. Other than that, I don't think that mixing services are of real help if you are seriously into hiding your criminal activities. Basically, you don't know who is behind the mixer you are using, so instead of hiding your footsteps you may be actually revealing them. As the proverb goes, beware of false prophets

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Quote from: grandy on February 25, 2017, 06:31:19 PM

Quote from: Ewinsane on February 21, 2017, 04:13:10 PM

Quote from: BeGoods on February 19, 2017, 06:32:07 PM

Quote from: Mbah Tyo on February 18, 2017, 07:17:14 AM

you are sure it will work, because to build a bank that takes huge amounts of money and takes a lot of branches to facilitate its customers,
I hope you succeed

to create a bank. I think you need a solid team so that you can create a good bank and has a name in public. if you do not want to work hard as a do promotion. you will not be able to make a bitcoin bank

i agree with you they will need a high security for their bank and they will be make a trusted relation with their customer then they can get success and if they build a bitcoin they will be provide bitcoin loan for their customer ?

i also not in favour of bitcoin banks as i do not want to face the previous complicated process of banking system. i want the present system of wallet to continue it as it is running as it is the most secure and easiest way of making money.

There is bank already in the physical world and they will surely take care of our banking needs, exchanges in the crypto will act as bank but will not operate based on the standard of the real bank govern by a certain agency of the government.

Real bank are concern with that the money we will deposit is coming from legitimate source, with bitcoin, it does not matter as long as you can play for the fees when buying that fine with exchanges. The way I see it, I guess in the future to come where bitcoin will be more popular, the government will begin to be more harsh on us and will require us to comply with their regulations, and of course we cannot do away with it as the exchanges will be their target while we solely rely on exchanges to convert our money.

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Quote from: Ewinsane on February 21, 2017, 04:13:10 PM

Quote from: BeGoods on February 19, 2017, 06:32:07 PM

Quote from: Mbah Tyo on February 18, 2017, 07:17:14 AM

you are sure it will work, because to build a bank that takes huge amounts of money and takes a lot of branches to facilitate its customers,
I hope you succeed

to create a bank. I think you need a solid team so that you can create a good bank and has a name in public. if you do not want to work hard as a do promotion. you will not be able to make a bitcoin bank

i agree with you they will need a high security for their bank and they will be make a trusted relation with their customer then they can get success and if they build a bitcoin they will be provide bitcoin loan for their customer ?

i also not in favour of bitcoin banks as i do not want to face the previous complicated process of banking system. i want the present system of wallet to continue it as it is running as it is the most secure and easiest way of making money.

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I do not understand the meaning of the creation of such a bank. After all, we are able to manage your Bitcoins. We do not need a mediator. The bank will take a commission for their services, and why should I care

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Quote from: bit-emperor on February 09, 2017, 07:52:11 PM

if i build a bank of bitcoin that operating like a traditional fiat money bank when people can save the money and get interest for their saving and also people can get a loan from my bank but the fiat money is change for bitcoin, the question is would you guys trust me to save your bitcoin on my bitcoin bank that i want to build ?

I don't want bank where i can deposit my bitcoin , blockchain is enough to restore my bitcoin how if you deposited your bitcoin there and then price increase is your bitcoin will increase too i don't think so if you holding them in blockchain and once the price is increase then you will win it.

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Quote from: bit-emperor on February 25, 2017, 04:52:37 AM

--snip--

i understand about the anonymous system of bitcoin, but the weakness of bitcoin is for example you save your bitcoin on the wallet dekstop, and then your hardisk is damage its mean that you will lost all of your bitcoin on your HDD, but if you save your bitcoin on the Bank Of Bitcoin it will not happen..because the Bank of Bitcoin will guarantee all of your bitcoin you save on that bank of bitcoin.

I would like to say that is wrong to believe that bitcoin is anonymous. In reality is only 'pseudonymous'. Given that bitcoin transactions are stored in the blockchain, anyone can link your network address with your real identity, say that you buy/sell and has to give the real name and address, can compromise your anonymity. For this reason and not only for criminal activities some people use mixing services. Furthermore, if anyone's HDD crashes or loses his smartphone with his bitcoin wallet app easily can spent his coins if and only if remembers his recovery seed. Bitcoin bank is completely useless for the above reasons.

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Wow thats a nice idea of banking and a bank for digital currency will be a large bank in the future and its important to make secured bitcoin amounts storage. If that happens in my country having bitcoin bank at my place, i will highly recommend it for my friends who is also having bitcoins stored in their online wallets.

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Quote from: ArdiPrabowo on February 09, 2017, 09:03:05 PM

bank of bitcoin without transaction cash fiat money is ready, dekstop wallet or online wallet is same bank in fiat money
but if you want bank of bitcoin must build office, and can direct cash fiat money in bank of bitcoin i think is very dificult and imposible
you must understand, many people like bitcoin because anonymous without verified ID

i understand about the anonymous system of bitcoin, but the weakness of bitcoin is for example you save your bitcoin on the wallet dekstop, and then your hardisk is damage its mean that you will lost all of your bitcoin on your HDD, but if you save your bitcoin on the Bank Of Bitcoin it will not happen..because the Bank of Bitcoin will guarantee all of your bitcoin you save on that bank of bitcoin.

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Quote from: PetroffVany on February 20, 2017, 03:19:34 PM

Banks are important, because we all depend on fiat. If we free ourselves from this dependence, we will not need banks. We will be able to freely use their own wallets, and Bitcoins

Yeah the whole idea of using bitcoin is to be free and use bitcoin as you want and be your own bank and I think making a bank with bitcoin is something that is really achievable because bitcoin is not that stable, and if the price goes down how the bank is going to work, the online wallets are kind of a bank so no need for one.

I guess people prefer having bitcoin bank with an intention of easy and quick buying and selling bitcoins. Other than this, I do not find any advantage of having bitcoin banks.

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I don't like bitcoin bank, Even the community in bitcoin world don't like it too, because we are decentralized not centralized. if we do that we are breaking and changing the good meaning of bitcoins.

true, I think the presence of bitcoin bank, then they can exert control to each customer or user of bitcoin, but I think with bitcoin bank. it will help the government to believe in bitcoin

I don't think that there any way that the government is gonna believe in bitcoin. It is obvious that by now most the government's are aware of bitcoin's potential but they will still not like bitcoin because they cannot control the price of it so technically even if someone decides to build a bitcoin bank the government won't issue any sort of license as that will create more awareness of bitcoin which most government agencies doesn't want that to happen.

Yes currently its look like difficult that governments will accept bitcoin. But in future when people will increase the users of online currency for buying selling and other activities then governments will become hopeless in such conditions and they will accept bitcoin as legal currency. Or may be create their own digital currency for the people of their states.

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Quote from: BeGoods on February 19, 2017, 06:32:07 PM

Quote from: Mbah Tyo on February 18, 2017, 07:17:14 AM

you are sure it will work, because to build a bank that takes huge amounts of money and takes a lot of branches to facilitate its customers,
I hope you succeed

to create a bank. I think you need a solid team so that you can create a good bank and has a name in public. if you do not want to work hard as a do promotion. you will not be able to make a bitcoin bank

i agree with you they will need a high security for their bank and they will be make a trusted relation with their customer then they can get success and if they build a bitcoin they will be provide bitcoin loan for their customer ?

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Quote from: SvenBomvolen on February 20, 2017, 06:41:27 PM

Quote from: blackhawkeye1912 on February 18, 2017, 03:23:54 PM

Quote from: deadsilent on February 10, 2017, 01:07:18 AM

You know, wallets can be your own bank. It doesn't make sense to me if you are making a bank for bitcoin. I haven't seen any bank like this. Why dont you make a wallet with unique features? Bank means you need to get under the government control which bitcoin users dont want to be involve with.

I'm kind a little bit confuse of why he is going to build his own bank, Honestly, as a bitcoin fanatic we must understand that by keeping Bitcoin in our own wallet is obviously we are the bank of our own BTC. isn't common sense only, its logic isn't? I think that guy is like to implement the segwit which is not in favor to us for sure.

Thats right. The idea makes me confused also. I can't imagine that it would have all characteristics in it's activity as any other bank. If only in the case of keeping bitcoin, but this function good made by different kind of bitcoin wallets. So I really don't see any sense in bitcoin bank.

Banks give loans. Banks also offer interest on deposits.
It is not just about safekeeping of your money. If that was the only function of banks, you will just have safe deposit boxes, not bank accounts.

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Quote from: blackhawkeye1912 on February 18, 2017, 03:23:54 PM

Quote from: deadsilent on February 10, 2017, 01:07:18 AM

You know, wallets can be your own bank. It doesn't make sense to me if you are making a bank for bitcoin. I haven't seen any bank like this. Why dont you make a wallet with unique features? Bank means you need to get under the government control which bitcoin users dont want to be involve with.

I'm kind a little bit confuse of why he is going to build his own bank, Honestly, as a bitcoin fanatic we must understand that by keeping Bitcoin in our own wallet is obviously we are the bank of our own BTC. isn't common sense only, its logic isn't? I think that guy is like to implement the segwit which is not in favor to us for sure.

Thats right. The idea makes me confused also. I can't imagine that it would have all characteristics in it's activity as any other bank. If only in the case of keeping bitcoin, but this function good made by different kind of bitcoin wallets. So I really don't see any sense in bitcoin bank.

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Quote from: carlerha on February 20, 2017, 10:15:58 AM

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Quote from: wxa7115 on February 16, 2017, 01:21:27 PM

Quote from: valta4065 on February 13, 2017, 09:59:40 AM

I don't even see the point.
Only 3 uses to a bank:
-keeping your property safe -> useless if you have your own wallet
-keeping up with inflation through the 2% you'l earn a year -> ridiculous compared to BTC inflation
-having your money accessible at all time through credit card -> digital currency hello?

I think the number 1 reason that you give is probably the reason a bank of bitcoin could happen, if you have some knowledge of computers then securing your coins yourself is very easy but for the average person that only knows how to use instagram and facebook it may be harder and then they may decide to use an additional service for it.

but when bitcoin bank offers guaranteed security. precisely wallet offering better terms to provide high security such as authentication and without control by anyone ?

no bank can offer you more security than you can achieve on your own while using bitcoin with cold storage.
and i strongly disagree with the need to be a computer expert in order to achieve the security.
it is not that hard to make a cold storage such as paper wallet and run a wallet on an air-gap system for signing,... and there are lots of walk throughs to read for this.

in fact banks also give you more security because they have the support and supervision of the governments. banks are the more important part of our life, as currently we are mostly depending on fiat therefore banks are also too much important for fiat.

Banks are important, because we all depend on fiat. If we free ourselves from this dependence, we will not need banks. We will be able to freely use their own wallets, and Bitcoins

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Quote from: blackhawkeye1912 on February 18, 2017, 03:23:54 PM

Quote from: deadsilent on February 10, 2017, 01:07:18 AM

You know, wallets can be your own bank. It doesn't make sense to me if you are making a bank for bitcoin. I haven't seen any bank like this. Why dont you make a wallet with unique features? Bank means you need to get under the government control which bitcoin users dont want to be involve with.

I'm kind a little bit confuse of why he is going to build his own bank, Honestly, as a bitcoin fanatic we must understand that by keeping Bitcoin in our own wallet is obviously we are the bank of our own BTC. isn't common sense only, its logic isn't? I think that guy is like to implement the segwit which is not in favor to us for sure.

Basically we are already fed up from the long lasting process of fait banks, I think the online wallet system is the superb as it give us so much facilities of using bitcoin anywhere and anywhere, we do not need to visit any bank and we can withdraw our bitcoin anywhere and anytime.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on February 17, 2017, 10:37:48 AM

Quote from: NEWGOODOUBLE on February 17, 2017, 10:06:29 AM

Quote from: wxa7115 on February 16, 2017, 01:21:27 PM

Quote from: valta4065 on February 13, 2017, 09:59:40 AM

I don't even see the point.
Only 3 uses to a bank:
-keeping your property safe -> useless if you have your own wallet
-keeping up with inflation through the 2% you'l earn a year -> ridiculous compared to BTC inflation
-having your money accessible at all time through credit card -> digital currency hello?

I think the number 1 reason that you give is probably the reason a bank of bitcoin could happen, if you have some knowledge of computers then securing your coins yourself is very easy but for the average person that only knows how to use instagram and facebook it may be harder and then they may decide to use an additional service for it.

but when bitcoin bank offers guaranteed security. precisely wallet offering better terms to provide high security such as authentication and without control by anyone ?

no bank can offer you more security than you can achieve on your own while using bitcoin with cold storage.
and i strongly disagree with the need to be a computer expert in order to achieve the security.
it is not that hard to make a cold storage such as paper wallet and run a wallet on an air-gap system for signing,... and there are lots of walk throughs to read for this.

in fact banks also give you more security because they have the support and supervision of the governments. banks are the more important part of our life, as currently we are mostly depending on fiat therefore banks are also too much important for fiat.

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Quote from: Erza on February 19, 2017, 10:56:21 PM

Quote from: blackhawkeye1912 on February 18, 2017, 03:23:54 PM

Quote from: deadsilent on February 10, 2017, 01:07:18 AM

You know, wallets can be your own bank. It doesn't make sense to me if you are making a bank for bitcoin. I haven't seen any bank like this. Why dont you make a wallet with unique features? Bank means you need to get under the government control which bitcoin users dont want to be involve with.

I'm kind a little bit confuse of why he is going to build his own bank, Honestly, as a bitcoin fanatic we must understand that by keeping Bitcoin in our own wallet is obviously we are the bank of our own BTC. isn't common sense only, its logic isn't? I think that guy is like to implement the segwit which is not in favor to us for sure.

I dont know if this is as same as fiat bank or not. But if you have your own bank, this will earn you more of coin and if many people put their coin on your bank too you will get more and more coin that overflow on your pocket so I think if this can really be apllied I would like to join his bank too

Anyway OP does not mentioned about opening some bank of bitcoin or make a pile of bitcoin that looks like a bank of bitcoin

Probably it's a regular bank that caters bitcoin as deposits because that is something new that in my knowledge is not happening yet. With banks accepting bitcoin as deposits, it will give the entire bitcoin economy a good publicity to the public and will spread awareness to the people.

I hope it will happen in the future to come as I believe as long as the government will know how to regulate it, their would be no problem with them.
In fact, it will give additional revenue to the banks as their deposits will increase coming from us.

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Quote from: blackhawkeye1912 on February 18, 2017, 03:23:54 PM

Quote from: deadsilent on February 10, 2017, 01:07:18 AM

You know, wallets can be your own bank. It doesn't make sense to me if you are making a bank for bitcoin. I haven't seen any bank like this. Why dont you make a wallet with unique features? Bank means you need to get under the government control which bitcoin users dont want to be involve with.

I'm kind a little bit confuse of why he is going to build his own bank, Honestly, as a bitcoin fanatic we must understand that by keeping Bitcoin in our own wallet is obviously we are the bank of our own BTC. isn't common sense only, its logic isn't? I think that guy is like to implement the segwit which is not in favor to us for sure.

I dont know if this is as same as fiat bank or not. But if you have your own bank, this will earn you more of coin and if many people put their coin on your bank too you will get more and more coin that overflow on your pocket so I think if this can really be apllied I would like to join his bank too

Anyway OP does not mentioned about opening some bank of bitcoin or make a pile of bitcoin that looks like a bank of bitcoin

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Quote from: maku on February 16, 2017, 10:59:18 AM

Face it guys - idea of bitcoin bank is idiotic. We don't need bank to hold our bitcoins, we don't need another parasitic 3rd party.
The only reason people want this "bitcoin bank" to happen is they want to collect accrued interests.
But you tell me how it would work with unstable nature and volatility of BTC? Because I can't really grasp it.

Yup that is right. Banks have the power to limit what your Bitcoin can earn due to its volatility, I know how banks workds you would sign an agreement which you did not know where apparently they have a percentage of your gain and then if your lose money fue to volatility they have no fault into it. It is better to have your money in a Bitcoin Wallet.

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