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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

I am not very interested in buying pre sale coins after 2021. Also I am not interested in investing in any such new coins or random coins. I know there are some coins which can give me big profit like lottery but I can never expect anything good from those coins in long term. Because there are some coins that it won't be difficult to find much difference between buying and gambling. Here those who cannot control their greed will lose their money by investing in those coins. I buy old and fundamental coins that are strong in terms of investment.

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There were a lot of launch projects for a while, yes, I had invested in them in the past and I was buying from pre-sales. Or it happened when I participated in pre-sales of stock exchanges. I usually buy from pre-sale projects with money I don't need. I don't follow the whitelists of many projects, memes and NFTs circulating on X. Even if I did, I wouldn't spend too much. It's always good to spend gradually.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

It's always only investing what you can afford to lose, you don't take a loan or put up your savings just to invest on presale because there's always uncertainty in the market, these developers will tell and promise everything just to entice investors to invest, they tell you that there will be 100x profits or immediate listing on the top exchange

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Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups?

It's part of the investigation that you take part in investor groups, so you can monitor the development and potential of the coin that you're investing, don't just take other people's advice it's your money so you should be the one to decide if a coin is worth investing or not.

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Quote from: oktana on April 14, 2024, 06:41:46 AM

I think it should be based on how much you have to invest in general. Go on Google and check, there are different strategies. Some say you should invest 60% in low risk and 40% in high risk and some suggest different. As for buying random coins, you can do that if you have a lot of money and you know very well that it could be fruitless. Don’t put your hopes in it or you could have a heart attack, and don’t invest too much because even if you would make more if it was successful, you’d lose a lot of it wasn’t.

There are so many coins we can buy and prepare for the bull since the price of Bitcoin is still going to continue the bull run.
There are so many strategies we could use to invest in the cryptocurrency market and it is better we always ask questions so that we could see people that are going to show us better strategy to invest in the crypto market.
If Bitcoin finally reaches 100k it is going to be a win for everyone.

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I think it should be based on how much you have to invest in general. Go on Google and check, there are different strategies. Some say you should invest 60% in low risk and 40% in high risk and some suggest different. As for buying random coins, you can do that if you have a lot of money and you know very well that it could be fruitless. Don’t put your hopes in it or you could have a heart attack, and don’t invest too much because even if you would make more if it was successful, you’d lose a lot of it wasn’t.

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Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 12:58:52 PM

I don't get into presales at all because I don't need to lol. I just buy coins in the open markets; and if I want to be early on a project, I just try to farm the airdrop(if it looks like they will do an airdrop) using the Paldo.io database.

As for portfolio allocation, there's really no solid rule for this. If you're bullish on the project, go bigger. If not, then go smaller. Simple as that.

Many investors are not into presales, they'll rather buy after a launch, probably because of some presale scams, you never really knows how the token will fare when it's eventually launched. Obviously most of them prefer to buy after the launch, perhaps be among the early investors or wait till it pumps then dump before they buy, like you said there's no rule book to determine how you buy, if you're bullish on a project, then go in big, if not then invest the amount that you can afford to loose. New projects are a gamble, so do your research and make your decision.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 13, 2024, 01:13:58 PM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on April 13, 2024, 12:37:40 PM

Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 12:58:52 PM

...using the Paldo.io database.

Seems like a nice site. I just had a peep at it. I liked what I saw. Thanks for sharing.

Quote from: salad daging on April 12, 2024, 01:14:20 PM

Memecoin => Presale => 100x is bullshit.

100x isn't much of a hill to climb for meme projects when listed. They can raise all that within a few hours of listing. Sometimes they even do 1,000X and more. However, there's no guarantee that it will happen. Those who buy into such projects and make eye rolling ROI do get into them out of pure luck. It's not because they're certain of profitability. Memes are great risk to indulge and those getting into them should know this before hand, anyway.

You feel it Cool

BOME success = bayc members which getting back lost funds mostly Wink

WIF - I don't know but it was huge success too;
PEPE
FLOKI even...

sick things happend

These are good meme and one can earn massively from them if you know when to buy and when to hold.
There are other meme tokens too that can make us earn massively from the crypto market. It is important we invest wisely in the crypto market because anything can happen at anytime. We need to be prepared and keep buying if we have the fund and we can halt the process of we don't have enough money to accumulate some good tokens in the market.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

Look there are two thoughts on it.

In my opinion buying coins on presales is just like you are gambling in a casino where anything can happen.

Let's discuss two possibilities. One is that the project is claiming something very strong and it's giving more in their airdrops and giveaways that will attract people

The other is strong fundamentals and technical background.

These both need a good team behind it that will further work on it in the future. No project can exist on its starting fundamentals they need to be updated. And that's the thing "teamwork" that's unpredictable!

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

I don't do any of the above, new coins/projects are very risky and is basically you gambling with your money. That being said, if i were to give an advice, i'd say it is foolish to invest heavily into one new coin/project, i think it is "safer" to spread that money into different altcoins and see which one you get lucky on. These coins do not have any utility and are basically pump and dump coins, so i think the chances of ROI is higher if you buy a few of them, than when you spend all the money on one.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on April 13, 2024, 12:37:40 PM

Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 12:58:52 PM

...using the Paldo.io database.

Seems like a nice site. I just had a peep at it. I liked what I saw. Thanks for sharing.

Quote from: salad daging on April 12, 2024, 01:14:20 PM

Memecoin => Presale => 100x is bullshit.

100x isn't much of a hill to climb for meme projects when listed. They can raise all that within a few hours of listing. Sometimes they even do 1,000X and more. However, there's no guarantee that it will happen. Those who buy into such projects and make eye rolling ROI do get into them out of pure luck. It's not because they're certain of profitability. Memes are great risk to indulge and those getting into them should know this before hand, anyway.

You feel it Cool

BOME success = bayc members which getting back lost funds mostly Wink

WIF - I don't know but it was huge success too;
PEPE
FLOKI even...

sick things happend

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

I rarely join the presale market but I always check what companies backing it to guarantee that there will be an initial liquidity available for the token once released to the market aside from the money gathered on presale.

Most of the presale buyers refer to what VC backing the project before they start aping in. The harder the requirements to join the presale means the higher profitability it can give since it only means the demand is too high for users to join easily.

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Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 12:58:52 PM

...using the Paldo.io database.

Seems like a nice site. I just had a peep at it. I liked what I saw. Thanks for sharing.

Quote from: salad daging on April 12, 2024, 01:14:20 PM

Memecoin => Presale => 100x is bullshit.

100x isn't much of a hill to climb for meme projects when listed. They can raise all that within a few hours of listing. Sometimes they even do 1,000X and more. However, there's no guarantee that it will happen. Those who buy into such projects and make eye rolling ROI do get into them out of pure luck. It's not because they're certain of profitability. Memes are great risk to indulge and those getting into them should know this before hand, anyway.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:47:37 PM

Quote from: electronicash on April 12, 2024, 01:40:51 PM

early investors are getting scammed by the devs so these investors already learned.
investing in presale is not how people do it these days. they just look at the top coins in the market and choose which one they like the most or which they think can make them rich.

Yes exactly nowdays fair launch memes are collecting funds in presale to drop all in liquidity pool. In past it was much different and we had tokenomies like 9 points on the list and only 10% in LPs.. which was obvious scamm.

it's just a promise though. whether the dev is going to put it all in LP or not, it's just all in the head of the dev.

investors are still going to be relying on the dev's promise. if the dev runs, its over for them. that's the reality. especially if the dev is someone who has no influence in their social media accounts, the token will just die.

Few times during this cycle devs just published tweets with contract address (mostly on SOLANA) and simple tokenomy :
50% LP 50% presale -
and it goes to 300-500M USD just because the community and hype and faith on it :>
You can't deny it :> or act like it never happend
and when presale buyers made 10,000% it is worth it or nah ?

Even if they stuck for half year on whole year at same price level - it doesn't mean its useless. Look on Pepe, they accumulate whole energy from this kind of way.

Anyway is good to see what kind of sentiment is for new projects.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:27:25 PM

I have created a coin that will have its own fully functional dapp, and it is currently in presale.
The token is $SURFER on BSC.
Dapp: https://surfer.lol /// Twitter: x.com/surferchadbnb

It is still before promotion, but I already encourage forum users to join me in creating a common community.

It's going to be interesting, I promise

things like this usually end badly. there are many like you. you will not get anything from users here. Even though memecoin is currently being talked about quite a lot in the community, don't be stupid if you try to get money from this method.
everyone here doesn't underestimate you and your project. but if you are serious about your project then do it the right way.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:47:37 PM

Quote from: electronicash on April 12, 2024, 01:40:51 PM

early investors are getting scammed by the devs so these investors already learned.
investing in presale is not how people do it these days. they just look at the top coins in the market and choose which one they like the most or which they think can make them rich.

Yes exactly nowdays fair launch memes are collecting funds in presale to drop all in liquidity pool. In past it was much different and we had tokenomies like 9 points on the list and only 10% in LPs.. which was obvious scamm.

it's just a promise though. whether the dev is going to put it all in LP or not, it's just all in the head of the dev.

investors are still going to be relying on the dev's promise. if the dev runs, its over for them. that's the reality. especially if the dev is someone who has no influence in their social media accounts, the token will just die.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

I don't no much presale coins, as most of them have crappier fundamentals then meme tokens, and pure incompetence of the most teams and down right lying annoys the hell out of me. Their ideas or tokenomics in most of them are not thought out, many of them are unregistered securities and money grabs.

Nor i use any investment groups. I have a group of friends that do some research to split the work, as it's hard work to try to combing all the new coins. But groups in general have always been a crappy idea. There are group of insiders that know what's going to happen next so they will have time to accumulate free tokens, those get the actual profits, then there are paid customers who get signals next, those might get the profits, and people those bags are being dumbed are the ones who will get free signals. They are all basically pump and dump groups. They might get to enjoy the pump if it isn't over already.

But some microcaps in invest to from time to time. Although it's takes work to look trough all newcomers and as most of them are rugs, it's frustrating and boring job.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

I actually tried it and had a small profit by the end of the week. I have a day job and a family so I couldn't allocate much time but if you just have time and track the coins that are released just today, do a simple 15 min research and find how committed the developers are, commit to the coin and wait for the pump and sell at good time, you can have a good profit. When considering pre-sale, you should also consider the lock in period and when transacting, consider the extra fees. I might have a week off in a few months and I'm going to give my strategy another go.

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I have given up on pre-sales it's been a long time because it's not worth the agony and discomfort it cause when you invest in a project which just don't trigger rather it depreciates or don't even reach exchange. I buy coins when it's launched at the time when the coin dips after a massive pump. My portfolio keep shuffling from like 50-60% Bitcoin, 20-30% Altcoins and 10% new coins or experiments.

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No single enthusiast of that kind of trade? Huh

I am suprised.

I just can't understand why there are investors who, let's say, have a $10k budget for crypto investments, but are not willing to take the risk of, for example, buying such coins out of curiosity for $100 or even $20; they completely reject them.
Then they buy something for $1k-5k that looks promising, has a strong whitepaper, raises $5M before listing, and after a week, it's -50%, pretending to grow, promising utility, or pretending to have big plans.
The team still holds 20% of the supply, in addition to reserves for marketing, development, etc.

Unless you are part of a group of people who only invest in the top 10 by market cap, then it's a different story.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

The honest truth is that buying coins on presale has now be an old fashioned way of buying coins presently now people prefer buying coins after it has been listed and probably make significant performance in making a pumb increase , it is best you make an informed decisions as this regards and as well investing only the money you can afford to lose by understanding your risk tolerance level.

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