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HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4361
August 31, 2020, 07:55:10 PM
#54
Nothing installed, clean Win10.
Removed the wallet and rebuilt it from seed - everything was ok.
Must have been a "glitch in the matrix" then Tongue

Possibly some sort of corruption in the wallet file or something that was causing it to send or request "bad" data from the servers which was getting your client disconnected/timed out (banned? Huh)... I've honestly never seen that behaviour before.

Glad you managed to fix it by simply rebuilding the wallet tho.
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 31, 2020, 02:36:51 AM
#53
68 isn't that many in the grand scheme of things... if it was several hundred or 1000+ or something, then it might cause the throttling... but 68 shouldn't really trigger that.

There is no such thing on another PC on this wallet
And even stranger that it works perfectly on a different PC... there must be something in the setup of that specific PC that is causing the connections to go crazy like that... some AntiVirus/AntiMalware or firewall perhaps? Huh

Nothing installed, clean Win10.

Removed the wallet and rebuilt it from seed - everything was ok.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4361
August 28, 2020, 05:36:23 AM
#52
68 isn't that many in the grand scheme of things... if it was several hundred or 1000+ or something, then it might cause the throttling... but 68 shouldn't really trigger that.

There is no such thing on another PC on this wallet
And even stranger that it works perfectly on a different PC... there must be something in the setup of that specific PC that is causing the connections to go crazy like that... some AntiVirus/AntiMalware or firewall perhaps? Huh
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 28, 2020, 05:23:27 AM
#51
The program cannot connect, synchronize. Constantly trying and in no way, if you press the button on the arrows - you can see that it is trying to different servers all the time
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TV1y63VIqahil7TX_m4FmyCNUAMJrM4h/view?usp=sharing
It is so only on this wallet, so I shot a video where everything is ok, but it is worth opening this wallet and the one that was opened also loses the network
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LsuhPjTXFWGwkVKth2yQ8FB5XAXMepkZ/view?usp=sharing
Approximately how many transactions and/or addresses are in that specific wallet? Huh

It could be that your wallet simply has too many transactions and/or is requesting info for too many addresses at once... because of that the servers are throttling your connection... Once it is throttled, the "ElectrumX" server (which most Electrum Servers are running) will remember your IP and refuse your connection until a specified timeout period has passed.


68. Rare long-term investment wallet. There is no such thing on another PC on this wallet
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4361
August 27, 2020, 06:23:12 PM
#50
The program cannot connect, synchronize. Constantly trying and in no way, if you press the button on the arrows - you can see that it is trying to different servers all the time
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TV1y63VIqahil7TX_m4FmyCNUAMJrM4h/view?usp=sharing
It is so only on this wallet, so I shot a video where everything is ok, but it is worth opening this wallet and the one that was opened also loses the network
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LsuhPjTXFWGwkVKth2yQ8FB5XAXMepkZ/view?usp=sharing
Approximately how many transactions and/or addresses are in that specific wallet? Huh

It could be that your wallet simply has too many transactions and/or is requesting info for too many addresses at once... because of that the servers are throttling your connection... Once it is throttled, the "ElectrumX" server (which most Electrum Servers are running) will remember your IP and refuse your connection until a specified timeout period has passed.
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 27, 2020, 04:04:36 AM
#49
You can get a link to the service Blockcypher where brodcast it? I'll try it myself next time I need it again.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/pushtx/
you will have to paste your entire tranasction hex (like what you posted in an earlier comment here) in this textbox and press broadcast.
keep in mind that there is no guarantee that other nodes would accept a transaction that may break one of their preferences (standard rules) such as RBF fee bump.

Thank you. And as you can see there is a violation in that transaction of mine that may break one of their preferences (standard rules) such as RBF fee bump? After all, I did it using Electrum tools, simply by increasing the original transaction by 2 times
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 27, 2020, 04:01:21 AM
#48
The program cannot connect, synchronize. Constantly trying and in no way, if you press the button on the arrows - you can see that it is trying to different servers all the time

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TV1y63VIqahil7TX_m4FmyCNUAMJrM4h/view?usp=sharing

It seems that there is something blocking your Electrum to connect in any Electrum server.

Are you using a VPN? Try to disable it and try again. If not, then try to change your PC/Laptop DNS.

You can choose any of these DNS below.
- 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 = Google DNS
- 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 = Cloudflare DNS

After you manually set the DNS, follow this.

- Open CMD
- Type "ipconfig /release" then enter
- Type "ipconfig /renew" then enter
- Type "ipconfig /flushdns" then enter

Then try to check your Electrum again if the circle turns to green.

It is so only on this wallet, so I shot a video where everything is ok, but it is worth opening this wallet and the one that was opened also loses the network
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LsuhPjTXFWGwkVKth2yQ8FB5XAXMepkZ/view?usp=sharing
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 10611
August 25, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
#47
You can get a link to the service Blockcypher where brodcast it? I'll try it myself next time I need it again.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/pushtx/
you will have to paste your entire tranasction hex (like what you posted in an earlier comment here) in this textbox and press broadcast.
keep in mind that there is no guarantee that other nodes would accept a transaction that may break one of their preferences (standard rules) such as RBF fee bump.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 3095
BTC price road to $80k
August 25, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
#46
The program cannot connect, synchronize. Constantly trying and in no way, if you press the button on the arrows - you can see that it is trying to different servers all the time

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TV1y63VIqahil7TX_m4FmyCNUAMJrM4h/view?usp=sharing

It seems that there is something blocking your Electrum to connect in any Electrum server.

Are you using a VPN? Try to disable it and try again. If not, then try to change your PC/Laptop DNS.

You can choose any of these DNS below.
- 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 = Google DNS
- 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 = Cloudflare DNS

After you manually set the DNS, follow this.

- Open CMD
- Type "ipconfig /release" then enter
- Type "ipconfig /renew" then enter
- Type "ipconfig /flushdns" then enter

Then try to check your Electrum again if the circle turns to green.
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 25, 2020, 02:38:08 PM
#45
And what kind of garbage is this today on the 24th, Electrum 4.0.2 is constantly synchronized at the entrance to the program and cannot finish it: at the bottom, the numbers are constantly updated and the circle is green or red, then the arrows are synchronized with the network
Mine has no problem with synchronization.

Seems like you've been being disconnected from your selected server again and again, try to connect to other servers.
If you're using your own and it's outdated, upgrade to the latest version (probably related: Electrum 4.0.2 keeps Synchronizing)

BTW, that was off-topic... and the number below that's being updated is the total number of addresses in your wallet + new UTXOs.

The program cannot connect, synchronize. Constantly trying and in no way, if you press the button on the arrows - you can see that it is trying to different servers all the time

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TV1y63VIqahil7TX_m4FmyCNUAMJrM4h/view?usp=sharing
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 25, 2020, 02:28:26 PM
#44
Can you imagine, now I went to see the answers here, and found that the transaction that I could not broadcast this one above, had logged 244 blocks back to the blockchain successfully. this is nonsense, it turns out Electrum or there on the site one of them did it.
Could've been me. I went to try to broadcast the transaction everywhere and found that Blockcypher doesn't follow the RBF fee increment rule (or didn't see your old transaction). You could've lucked out and Blockcypher relayed it to a miner who also doesn't care about the amount of fee increment.

I would say that it's an outlier and you would usually have to increase the fee enough to meet the requirement.

I tried to find him - but who found it seems to be unable to do broadcast there. You can get a link to the service Blockcypher where brodcast it? I'll try it myself next time I need it again.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 6080
Self-proclaimed Genius
August 24, 2020, 11:15:32 PM
#43
And what kind of garbage is this today on the 24th, Electrum 4.0.2 is constantly synchronized at the entrance to the program and cannot finish it: at the bottom, the numbers are constantly updated and the circle is green or red, then the arrows are synchronized with the network
Mine has no problem with synchronization.

Seems like you've been being disconnected from your selected server again and again, try to connect to other servers.
If you're using your own and it's outdated, upgrade to the latest version (probably related: Electrum 4.0.2 keeps Synchronizing)

BTW, that was off-topic... and the number below that's being updated is the total number of addresses in your wallet + new UTXOs.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
Crypto Swap Exchange
August 24, 2020, 08:44:00 PM
#42
Can you imagine, now I went to see the answers here, and found that the transaction that I could not broadcast this one above, had logged 244 blocks back to the blockchain successfully. this is nonsense, it turns out Electrum or there on the site one of them did it.
Could've been me. I went to try to broadcast the transaction everywhere and found that Blockcypher doesn't follow the RBF fee increment rule (or didn't see your old transaction). You could've lucked out and Blockcypher relayed it to a miner who also doesn't care about the amount of fee increment.

I would say that it's an outlier and you would usually have to increase the fee enough to meet the requirement.
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 24, 2020, 11:22:30 AM
#41
And what kind of garbage is this today on the 24th, Electrum 4.0.2 is constantly synchronized at the entrance to the program and cannot finish it: at the bottom, the numbers are constantly updated and the circle is green or red, then the arrows are synchronized with the network
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 24, 2020, 11:19:25 AM
#40
02000000000101a7fe8ba463c9cd400097220533d7c81b02a0104e3a760c4bbb933eaa9ebdedaf0 000000000fdffffff0162d8010000000000160014dadcd7f1cd1b11c3a69f61585f003395ec8a99 550400473044022056b0b1deb00b4f2a798623849655316b2b8cb35fb5607a162fd6cdc5b235165 702203395c5e20e5425a2eacab3c827e44083eb3fdd05398dd2213a23b551db7127680147304402 2065c5deee5467bdbcceb7974effd5ef02e62c57f75e0c7b3a085027351254c5fe022047a8caf51 45052d8f3c54d1f1d829b14cb566a0f7beba2a3dbea9a0a283cfed701475221024d34631e9abc48 8b9a9d137bc91746415acbadbe42b5122a83d514f7cf1f11482103608484ccf6e229ee06d3358c5 49e458c5a2d8c56e8b9eaa89413e3509593fdb652aeafd50900

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1stpCM-xB6DAi54OhztbHYaNs8P_2bhx4/view?usp=sharing and here the transaction is a format Electrum
I looked at the transaction that you're trying to replace. It doesn't have enough incremental fee.

The reference node requires that the new transaction to pay an additional fee (amounting to a network relay fee) to the previous transaction. Failing which, the reference node will refuse to relay the transaction resulting in a poor propagation. Try paying an additional 0.00000073BTC.

Can you imagine, now I went to see the answers here, and found that the transaction that I could not broadcast this one above, had logged 244 blocks back to the blockchain successfully. this is nonsense, it turns out Electrum or there on the site one of them did it.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
Crypto Swap Exchange
August 22, 2020, 08:40:08 AM
#39
02000000000101a7fe8ba463c9cd400097220533d7c81b02a0104e3a760c4bbb933eaa9ebdedaf0 000000000fdffffff0162d8010000000000160014dadcd7f1cd1b11c3a69f61585f003395ec8a99 550400473044022056b0b1deb00b4f2a798623849655316b2b8cb35fb5607a162fd6cdc5b235165 702203395c5e20e5425a2eacab3c827e44083eb3fdd05398dd2213a23b551db7127680147304402 2065c5deee5467bdbcceb7974effd5ef02e62c57f75e0c7b3a085027351254c5fe022047a8caf51 45052d8f3c54d1f1d829b14cb566a0f7beba2a3dbea9a0a283cfed701475221024d34631e9abc48 8b9a9d137bc91746415acbadbe42b5122a83d514f7cf1f11482103608484ccf6e229ee06d3358c5 49e458c5a2d8c56e8b9eaa89413e3509593fdb652aeafd50900

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1stpCM-xB6DAi54OhztbHYaNs8P_2bhx4/view?usp=sharing and here the transaction is a format Electrum
I looked at the transaction that you're trying to replace. It doesn't have enough incremental fee.

The reference node requires that the new transaction to pay an additional fee (amounting to a network relay fee) to the previous transaction. Failing which, the reference node will refuse to relay the transaction resulting in a poor propagation. Try paying an additional 0.00000073BTC.
jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 22, 2020, 04:07:25 AM
#38
Good thing, but also writes an error

Might be an issue with how coinb.in calculate fees/byte. Could you paste the raw TX here?

02000000000101a7fe8ba463c9cd400097220533d7c81b02a0104e3a760c4bbb933eaa9ebdedaf0 000000000fdffffff0162d8010000000000160014dadcd7f1cd1b11c3a69f61585f003395ec8a99 550400473044022056b0b1deb00b4f2a798623849655316b2b8cb35fb5607a162fd6cdc5b235165 702203395c5e20e5425a2eacab3c827e44083eb3fdd05398dd2213a23b551db7127680147304402 2065c5deee5467bdbcceb7974effd5ef02e62c57f75e0c7b3a085027351254c5fe022047a8caf51 45052d8f3c54d1f1d829b14cb566a0f7beba2a3dbea9a0a283cfed701475221024d34631e9abc48 8b9a9d137bc91746415acbadbe42b5122a83d514f7cf1f11482103608484ccf6e229ee06d3358c5 49e458c5a2d8c56e8b9eaa89413e3509593fdb652aeafd50900

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1stpCM-xB6DAi54OhztbHYaNs8P_2bhx4/view?usp=sharing and here the transaction is a format Electrum

jr. member
Activity: 43
Merit: 2
August 22, 2020, 03:59:50 AM
#37
So the question is how to delete a transaction in Electrum, so that a new RBF type is sent to a mempul but with a higher Commission so that it is carried out faster than the first, but not as now to the same wallet, but to another one, let's say

if the original transaction is marked as replaceable (this is the default behaviour in electrum) then simply right clicking it and choosing increase fee, choosing a higher fee and then clicking ok and then sign and broadcast in the next window should do the trick.



I change outputs, I did two into one
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4361
August 21, 2020, 01:52:19 AM
#36
Yeah... you can't just pay any higher amount... there is a certain minimum threshold that you have to cross to get it accepted.

Unfortunately, it's not a "fixed" amount as such... it depends on transaction sizes and fee rate used for the original transaction etc. So, trying to do this manually can require a bit of calculating (and/or experimenting) to make it work.

I believe it is done this way to prevent a possible DoS attack scenario, by making it "expensive".

I did a manual RBF about 2 weeks ago during the previous price pump... and do know that I was able to pay a lot less than the "minimum" that Bitcoin Core was trying to use... from memory it was still 5-6x the original fee... ~400 sats vs. ~2500 sats... for a transaction that was around 400 vbytes (~1600 WU)...

Bitcoin Core wanted me to pay like ~50000 sats as the "bump fee" Tongue Undecided But I suspect it was also doing confirmation time calcs and trying to get within 25 blocks etc. Wink
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 5123
https://merel.mobi => buy facemasks with BTC/LTC
August 20, 2020, 08:50:39 AM
#35
I'm not really following the discussion, but maybe the broadcasting fails because of this

Quote
The replacement transaction must pay for its own bandwidth in addition to the amount paid by the original transactions at least by the rate set by the node's minimum relay fee setting. For example, if the minimum relay fee is 1 satoshi/byte and the replacement transaction is 500 bytes total, then the replacement must pay a fee at least 500 satoshis higher than the originals.

source: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement
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