Topic: Bunned ihnattm. - page 3. (Read 1289 times)
Besides the first error for plagiarism user ihnattm1 committed second error, this evasion of a ban! and after that wiped their previous posts! as it were did not have! making of us fools!
The administration of the forum is doing a good and important control, my bow and respect. The only thing I regret is that sometimes we don't get a second chance and we can't make it right. But I hope this guy gets a pardon, I think he's learned his lesson for life.
Because it is one mistake for 1200 msgs. We are all humans. Do you have not a single mistake for your 2700 messages ? Just be honest
Doesn't matter if they've made "mistakes". They haven't plagiarized. Take a look at my post count. I have almost 3x the posts of ihnattm. Have I gotten posts deleted before? Fuck yeah! In fact, here's one of them:
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shut the fuck up
But the fact of the matter is that my deleted posts, my mistakes were never anything severe like plagiarism. It's probable that most users have had at least one deleted post in their BCT lifetime. Not only that but IIRC Lauda even admitted to being temp-banned for spam. And I shitpost sometimes, sure.
But we don't plagiarize.
Well, I'm not against the rules, but I think that in this case the penalties should not be so strict
Why?Because it is one mistake for 1200 msgs. All me are peoples. Do you have not a single mistake for your 2700 messages ? Just be honest
If I did, the mods would be right to ban me.
Also, I don't buy this "I forgot to source" excuse. To me, OP joined a bounty that pays more for non-Local posts and decided to lazily copy-paste a post to earn money.
But anyways, I'm leaving this thread for now as this will not lead to anything. OP is not the first one to copy-paste, say that "he forgot" and ask for an unban. And so far, I have only seen one user being unbanned for plagiarism, and it was a very specific case.
The mistake should have been recognized when the user previewed their post (or looked at it afterward). If you're worried about "haste" and are posting too quickly/too much to even give it a look-over then you're also spamming. The punishment is warranted.
Surely, we don't post on the forum without looking over what we type, right?
Surely, we don't post on the forum without looking over what we type, right?
Of course, I fully agree that he made a mistake and that everyone should look and check the message before sending.
But the punishment is high jump. I'm not a moderator, but I think that the punishment in the form of a fine (by cryptocurrency) will be fair.
That is my opinion. Thank you.
The rules regarding plagiarism on this forum are fucked up. I would not hold my breath on getting your account back, I guess it's better to just start over (or as a lot of people do, buy accounts). Which is completely fine btw.
Well, I'm not against the rules, but I think that in this case the penalties should not be so strict
Why?Because it is one mistake for 1200 msgs. We are all humans. Do you have not a single mistake for your 2700 messages ? Just be honest
Edit: I know, ihnatm, long time ago as an honest man, it is all)
Why do not you want to make the system of 3 penalties? If a person is banned and he values his account, he could have paid some amount in the BTС in fund forum. The first time is not big penalty, the second time is the big penalty, the third time is permanent ban. I think it would be so fair.
Plagiarism is a glaring mistake, but people always make mistakes.
I'm surprised at such fairness but I think the most important thing is that a person recognizes his mistake and asks people to forgive him.
The mistake should have been recognized when the user previewed their post (or looked at it afterward). If you're worried about "haste" and are posting too quickly/too much to even give it a look-over then you're also spamming. The punishment is warranted.I'm surprised at such fairness but I think the most important thing is that a person recognizes his mistake and asks people to forgive him.
Surely, we don't post on the forum without looking over what we type, right?
1200 messages, eternal ban because of one mistake it's like something too much
Plenty of users with higher post counts have been banned.
Horror, because forgot to mention the source, for this ban 
? 1200 messages, eternal ban because of one mistake it's like something too much
I think that after all, the guy deserves a chance. Everyone is mistaken.
? 1200 messages, eternal ban because of one mistake it's like something too muchI think that after all, the guy deserves a chance. Everyone is mistaken.
Plagiarism is a glaring mistake, but people always make mistakes.
I'm surprised at such fairness but I think the most important thing is that a person recognizes his mistake and ask people to forgive him.
Give him the second chance.
Thank you for your time.
I'm surprised at such fairness but I think the most important thing is that a person recognizes his mistake and ask people to forgive him.
Give him the second chance.
Thank you for your time.
Well, I'm not against the rules, but I think that in this case the penalties should not be so strict
Why?Edit: just outta curiosity, did you ask your friends to come here defend you? what's up with all those users with posts in the russian board coming here so suddenly?
Eternal ban for one mistake? are you joking? Guys, do you want to say that none of you made any mistakes for the thousands of messages that were published? I do not believe in this even before the gun 
Give the second chance to ihnattm
If you unban ihnattm you also have to unban the other hundreds of people who have plagiarized posts. And fuck yeah, these are the rules. Considering the fact that hundreds of thousands of members are still around who haven't been banned for plagiarism, I don't think that many have copied and pasted posts. Give the second chance to ihnattm
Well, I'm not against the rules, but I think that in this case the penalties should not be so strict
Eternal ban for one mistake? are you joking? Guys, do you want to say that none of you made any mistakes for the thousands of messages that were published? I do not believe in this even before the gun
Give the second chance to ihnattm
If you unban ihnattm you also have to unban the other hundreds of people who have plagiarized posts. And fuck yeah, these are the rules. Considering the fact that hundreds of thousands of members are still around who haven't been banned for plagiarism, I don't think that many have copied and pasted posts. Give the second chance to ihnattm
Eternal ban for one mistake? are you joking? Guys, do you want to say that none of you made any mistakes for the thousands of messages that were published? I do not believe in this even before the gun
Give the second chance to ihnattm
Give the second chance to ihnattm
Nice catch on the copy/paste job, whoever caught it.
Thanks 
And think about how a person who does not know the language can write a post.
There are hundreds of languages I don't speak. That's totally fine, as long as I don't try to join a conversation.It's not about one person making one (two
) mistakes. It's about thousands of accounts doing this on a massive scale! Many of them never get caught, and some do. Plagiarism lowers the quality of this forum.Pay special attention to the number of those threads that were resolved in favor of the plagiarizer. It's ZERO.
As far as I know, it's ONE. If it ever becomes TWO, I think this guy has a better chance after massive community support.
Good day! I made a mistake in writing the post on the English line, in reply to the guy on the situation with bitcoin, I pointed out the data from Coindesk resource, forgetting to leave a link to the original. In total I have written two messages in English for the entire time of their existence and found an error in them. from my 1200 posts, I always pointed out the resource, I did not steal any posts and did not spam. Yes you are right, I made a mistake, but who is not mistaken? Is it worth insulting a person with a ban if he was mistaken? I realized the lesson, and my posts can be checked and they speak for themselves, I pointed out the sources. Forgive me, no one is perfect, but I understood the lesson! 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38383563
The guy forgot to mention the source and got a ban, lol. It's funny, after all!https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38383563
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What's the point of having rules if you are just going to allow them to be bent when someone apologizes for their actions after the fact? Unbanning you means creating a precedent for plagiarism, to which then every banned person will henceforth cite... and then there's really no point for the rule to be there anymore.Making an error without specifying the original source because of haste
Haste? 
Side note, it's not as long as you stick in Meta.*
*the Meta posts must be in a thread about your ban. It must be limited to discussion only about your ban, thus you can't participate in any other Meta discussions.The exact quote:
Quote from: mprep
25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.
Since you are banned in your original account, so legally you are breaking the rules creating this account too.
Quote from: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]
Side note, it's not as long as you stick in Meta.
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