Butterfly labs did everything they could to make getting a refund impossible. - page 2.

EdManet

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Quote from: Anduck on August 13, 2013, 02:13:32 AM

Guys, PP will help you.

This is true. Just call them.

I called Paypal after they auto-closed the dispute I opened. They told me to call my credit card company.
I called my credit card company and they immediately credited my account. They're going to work with PP and BFL.
It's a 60-90 day process, but I am still pretty confident that BFL will not be able to ship an April 2013 order by December.

ElitePork

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I believe everything that is lower than 40MH/s per buck will not be able to / will take longer than 5 months to ROI in the soaring difficulty.
I just punch in the new difficult 50mil into http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ and key in the figures for jallies. Turn out that it will ROI in 58 days if your jally is 5GH/s and 47days if it's 7GH/s...

ameer1367

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paypal does have some kind of a insurance system right? if BFL comes out to be a scam. you could ask for a refund right?
i bought 2x jelapenos there for almost 400$ total...
it hurts bad when you see asicminers all arround the world already deliverd, live and kicking. and bfl cant even deliver in time.

ATM their on delivering the backorders from november2012.
so basically they delivered 6 months backorders in 2 months mass production.(from april 2013 till now)
my order was in april so i assume its gonna take them another 2 months to maaaaybe deliver my order? thats what i call fraud and bad project management... by the time 5GH/s is nothing worth.

CrashX

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Quote from: jedunnigan on August 13, 2013, 02:19:32 AM

lol well that's not quite the story you led us to believe there was it...

That's nothing, awhile back I order 200 hard drives and I got honey.

The funny thing is that the honey had UPS labels going to different destination, I contact the seller and he contact UPS.

UPS called me and asked me for more info, I told about the honey, which I think the didn't believe me either.

When they finish asking all the stupid questions,
I asked them about the Honey, they told me to keep it, being that it was allot I gave it away to the family, 2 days later they call me that if I still had the honey, I only had two left.
(they came and took my last 2 boxes)

Also 1 year ago order some computer speaker, so when FedEx came it hand me a box, I sign for then he left.
I open the box, it was an Brand New HP Laser Printer, so I figure WTF!.
Around 30mins later the same FedEx truck comes back (im thinking he came for the box he gave me) and tells that he forgot to give my other 2 boxes, so gave me the other boxes (which were the speakers).

So I kept the HP Printer sold it on eBay for $800.

jedunnigan

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Quote from: CrashX on August 13, 2013, 02:17:54 AM

Quote from: jedunnigan on August 13, 2013, 02:10:38 AM

Not necessarily. If you are speaking to a competent operator and they know you used their card via PayPal they will call a PP representative and coordinate their efforts. If they just go willy nilly and chargeback the transaction your scenario will play out, but hopefully that is not the case for most.

Its is PayPal doesn't like me at all Wink

Have allot of experience with them, I purchase a computers and the box came empty with some works, I first contact the seller, then eBay, and PayPal, all of them said that I was lying. So I just contacted my Credit Card Company explained the problem, they did a charge back.

and then PayPal send me to collections... Ifs funny those fuckers still call me... been like 5 years now..lol.

lol well that's not quite the story you led us to believe there was it...

CrashX

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Quote from: jedunnigan on August 13, 2013, 02:10:38 AM

Not necessarily. If you are speaking to a competent operator and they know you used their card via PayPal they will call a PP representative and coordinate their efforts. If they just go willy nilly and chargeback the transaction your scenario will play out, but hopefully that is not the case for most.

Its is PayPal doesn't like me at all Wink

Have allot of experience with them, I purchase a computers and the box came empty with some works, I first contact the seller, then eBay, and PayPal, all of them said that I was lying. So I just contacted my Credit Card Company explained the problem, they did a charge back.

and then PayPal send me to collections... Ifs funny those fuckers still call me... been like 5 years now..lol.

Anduck

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quack

Guys, PP will help you.

jedunnigan

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Quote from: CrashX on August 13, 2013, 01:33:07 AM

Quote from: jasonjm on August 12, 2013, 07:25:07 PM

If I didn't purchase on AMEX through paypal, I would be toast.

AMEX saved the day for me.

Butterfly labs implosion is now imminent as I bet their new orders are way down, so they don't have cash to keep the scam rolling.

Unless by some miracle they were smart enough to hold onto all those bitcoins they got paid and made a fortune in bitcoin speculation.

But I do not think butterfly labs and smart can ever go into the same sentence without the internet breaking.

You still fucked your self,

If you purchase it via PayPal with your AMEX, that means that PayPal got chargeback and not BFL.

If this happened that means your PayPal account has a negative balance which you now owe them, if you don't pay up they will freeze your account and then send you to collections.
And make it almost impossible to reopen another account.

Not necessarily. If you are speaking to a competent operator and they know you used their card via PayPal they will call a PP representative and coordinate their efforts. If they just go willy nilly and chargeback the transaction your scenario will play out, but hopefully that is not the case for most.

CrashX

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Quote from: jasonjm on August 12, 2013, 07:25:07 PM

If I didn't purchase on AMEX through paypal, I would be toast.

AMEX saved the day for me.

Butterfly labs implosion is now imminent as I bet their new orders are way down, so they don't have cash to keep the scam rolling.

Unless by some miracle they were smart enough to hold onto all those bitcoins they got paid and made a fortune in bitcoin speculation.

But I do not think butterfly labs and smart can ever go into the same sentence without the internet breaking.

You still fucked your self,

If you purchase it via PayPal with your AMEX, that means that PayPal got chargeback and not BFL.

If this happened that means your PayPal account has a negative balance which you now owe them, if you don't pay up they will freeze your account and then send you to collections.
And make it almost impossible to reopen another account.

DyslexicZombei

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Whew! Good thing I bought a pre-order in early July on that via PP. Man, to have to deal with BFL *&* PP? Blech.

90 days to do a chargeback or longer then that with Amex? Can't recall.

jasonjm

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If I didn't purchase on AMEX through paypal, I would be toast.

AMEX saved the day for me.

Butterfly labs implosion is now imminent as I bet their new orders are way down, so they don't have cash to keep the scam rolling.

Unless by some miracle they were smart enough to hold onto all those bitcoins they got paid and made a fortune in bitcoin speculation.

But I do not think butterfly labs and smart can ever go into the same sentence without the internet breaking.

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