Topic: BUTTERFLY LABS OUT OF CHIPS??? BFL 5/1/2013 (Read 3141 times)
This is awkward. He won't let you down there unless we publicly shame you, and he sees the opportunity to turn you to the dark side.
I imagine after this much delay they could at least entertain their customers with a video production-log of what is going on.
There's always this!If I had any EE skills I'd drive down there and offer to help them out. Sadly, my EE ability is pretty much limited to destroying capacitors using wall voltage.
Which is mildly entertaining, but not at all useful.
Kind of like the aforementioned video.
I imagine after this much delay they could at least entertain their customers with a video production-log of what is going on.
I wonder if they found what was causing the chips to draw too much power (or isolated some other issue), and scrapped the wafers they had in order to get gen1.1 chips into the new boards.
I hate to say it, but this is the situation where Big Brother should step in and ask 'WTF?'
5k chips is what, 1 to 2 wafers? Yeah, could have been broken. Still, very suspicious.
I hate to agree.
I hate to say it, but this is the situation where Big Brother should step in and ask 'WTF?'
5k chips is what, 1 to 2 wafers? Yeah, could have been broken. Still, very suspicious.
Okay, so back on topic again. I'd really like to know how BFL burned through 5000 ASIC chips. What really happened BFL? Please chime in so BTCTalk can stop going off topic.
Based on his method of banning me for asking questions related to liability, and then deleting my posts, I'd say he's defrauding everyone involved. I doubt he's made an insurance claim, and if he gets audited this would be the silver lining in which all liabilities could be calculated.
Okay, so back on topic again. I'd really like to know how BFL burned through 5000 ASIC chips. What really happened BFL? Please chime in so BTCTalk can stop going off topic.
I highly doubt you will get a DIRECT ANSWER from Inaba, Josh, BFL...
Just silence...
Okay, so back on topic again. I'd really like to know how BFL burned through 5000 ASIC chips. What really happened BFL? Please chime in so BTCTalk can stop going off topic.
I missed this earlier... hilarious!
IF they were mining with the chips, they wouldn't be so stupid to do it on their own pools or under their own names.
Is it possible to see/track the origins of blocks generated by looking at BlockChain.info?There was a guy a day or two ago on BFL forums and Reddit claiming that he saw a ton of Blocks coming from Kansas. The accusation coming from the guy on Reddit was that it was BFL using mining hardware.
You can use this site to look at the last 2000+ blocks found: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php
Find the ones that were found by an "unkown" entity. Click on the blockchain link to see the information of that block located on the far right.
It says what IP address found that block on that page on blockchain.info "relayed by: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx".
Then you would need to proceed to look up where that IP is located at a web site like this one: http://www.iplocation.net/
I have the perfect software to sort through this. Will start chewing on it to see what I find.
No problem. Thanks for keeping BFL in check
IF they were mining with the chips, they wouldn't be so stupid to do it on their own pools or under their own names.
Is it possible to see/track the origins of blocks generated by looking at BlockChain.info?There was a guy a day or two ago on BFL forums and Reddit claiming that he saw a ton of Blocks coming from Kansas. The accusation coming from the guy on Reddit was that it was BFL using mining hardware.
You can use this site to look at the last 2000+ blocks found: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php
Find the ones that were found by an "unkown" entity. Click on the blockchain link to see the information of that block located on the far right.
It says what IP address found that block on that page on blockchain.info "relayed by: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx".
Then you would need to proceed to look up where that IP is located at a web site like this one: http://www.iplocation.net/
I have the perfect software to sort through this. Will start chewing on it to see what I find.
Now we finally find out why they sent the working units to PR people....
TO GET MORE CUSTOMER PREORDER MONEIZ!
LOL and soon after those units arrived with PR people...."OH WE NO MO CHIPZAHZ"
TO GET MORE CUSTOMER PREORDER MONEIZ!
LOL and soon after those units arrived with PR people...."OH WE NO MO CHIPZAHZ"
IF they were mining with the chips, they wouldn't be so stupid to do it on their own pools or under their own names.
Is it possible to see/track the origins of blocks generated by looking at BlockChain.info?There was a guy a day or two ago on BFL forums and Reddit claiming that he saw a ton of Blocks coming from Kansas. The accusation coming from the guy on Reddit was that it was BFL using mining hardware.
You can use this site to look at the last 2000+ blocks found: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php
Find the ones that were found by an "unkown" entity. Click on the blockchain link to see the information of that block located on the far right.
It says what IP address found that block on that page on blockchain.info "relayed by: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx".
Then you would need to proceed to look up where that IP is located at a web site like this one: http://www.iplocation.net/
Getting a new untested board to talk to the firmware isn't trivial.
Chances are there will be at leat a few problems with the board that will require some workarounds in either hardware or software or both. I would say it is at least 2 or 3 weeks to get a board working and tested.
I still don't understand how they are going to assemble and test 400 units a day.
It would seem to me that they would having that done in China. But if they have all the parts in house that would imply they are doing here in this country?
I'm hoping that when they said they ran out of chips, it is because they built 5,000 jalapenos with them and they are testing and shipping them out now.
Chances are there will be at leat a few problems with the board that will require some workarounds in either hardware or software or both. I would say it is at least 2 or 3 weeks to get a board working and tested.
I still don't understand how they are going to assemble and test 400 units a day.
It would seem to me that they would having that done in China. But if they have all the parts in house that would imply they are doing here in this country?
I'm hoping that when they said they ran out of chips, it is because they built 5,000 jalapenos with them and they are testing and shipping them out now.
IF they were mining with the chips, they wouldn't be so stupid to do it on their own pools or under their own names.
Is it possible to see/track the origins of blocks generated by looking at BlockChain.info?There was a guy a day or two ago on BFL forums and Reddit claiming that he saw a ton of Blocks coming from Kansas. The accusation coming from the guy on Reddit was that it was BFL using mining hardware.
Edit: Found link, seems BFL deleted the thread?:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c1jqd/butterfly_labs_may_be_scamming_us_all/
Does Eligius (Josh's pool) show stats so we can look over the High Hash Rate users?
You mean Eclipse.
https://eclipsemc.com/graphs/historical_rate.php
+1 TH/s in the past month. But if Josh has half a brain, he'll be mining solo where you can't track him.
Well, I must say, the guy might have no skill in bringing ASICs to market. But at least he knows how to make a nice looking pool.
IF they were mining with the chips, they wouldn't be so stupid to do it on their own pools or under their own names.
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