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January 23, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
#38
i think we will be below this levels again. we may go up first, who knows, but i think you could time a better long term entry than this.  Smiley

Could see this too.  Just do some Dollar Cost Averaging over two-three months with what you want to invest, and don't worry too much over day-to-day fluctuations, is my suggestion!

At first, though, Bitcoin is just so friggin' interesting it's hard not to pay attention day-to-day or hour-to-hour!
legendary
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January 23, 2014, 11:53:54 AM
#37
EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.

I bought loads of coins at those price levels, sold, bought more, sold, bought more. I have made several thousand quid since late November when I started speculating with Bitcoin.

I did however also by a shed load of coins at $1100. The price dipped to $1050, then lower. I started to sell at a loss.

....

I played this game a few times and burned my fingers. Lost about 5 Coins with this method. So I was very happy that one time I sold on a high price and bought in low so I was able to get my lost 5 coins back and then I sweared I will only hodl and buy more but never speculate again.
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January 23, 2014, 09:30:05 AM
#36
Is the Bitstamp price always pretty close to the Coinbase buy price? Where is Bitstamp based?  Are they similar to BTC-E?  I'm considering exchanges to use - I'm in the U.S..  also, where does Vircurex fit in?
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January 23, 2014, 08:12:27 AM
#35
EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.

I bought loads of coins at those price levels, sold, bought more, sold, bought more. I have made several thousand quid since late November when I started speculating with Bitcoin.

I did however also by a shed load of coins at $1100. The price dipped to $1050, then lower. I started to sell at a loss.

What do you think the advice was from the mainstay of the Bitcoin Nutter dipshits on this forum?

"If u sell now, u will only be crying when you have to buy back in later at $1300"

lol...idiots.

The losses I took were soon recooperated by further trading around the double top and twice have I caught Bitcoin spot price deathslides (that 'nobody seen coming' at least not going by the drivel written on this forum) pretty damn near the bottom, making a packet the first time around and admittedly pishing my pants on the second one, buying in at $540 but panic selling at $490. Since then, I have continued to trade Bitcoin, winning some and losing some, but mostly winning.

If I had done what you have done, which is exactly what most of the arseholes on this forum would have recommended I do. I wouldn't have made thousands, I would be simply treading water. No better off than I was  two months ago.

I am glad I know better than to allow myself to be bamboozled by The Bitcoin Nutter.

LIke I always say. It is much different if you own bitcoins at single or double digits like 80% or more of bitcoin owners, than if you actually have to pay $1000 for a coin. These nutters wouldn't be telling you to sit and hold if they paid over $1000 with their hard earned fiat.

Investing at these prices you have to take a lot of precautions or you will lose a lot of money. I see no reason why the price can't go below $500 in just a few days.

Bitcoin is a house of cards, and is now a Skycraper of cards at these prices. All it would take is just a slight increase in people wanting to cash out and the price would fall so quickly.

you are honestly better off putting your money in dogecoin than bitcoin in my opinion. Just as much risk with a much higher reward. Bitcoin is just too darn expensive and you are relying on the hope that bitcoin holders will continue to hoard.

OP:

Following advice from a previous poster in this thread, I advise you to read the post history of each person before taking their counsel to heart.

Specifically, it's interesting to note what longer-term posters were suggesting/recommending to others at the time of previous ATHs followed by crashes and lulls.

Then consider whether their current advice has similar tone/content.

Finally, if you're not comfortable trading, then take advice from experienced day traders with a pinch of salt. Doubtless they can make lots of money pretty quickly, but expect to lose money just as fast if you don't know what you're doing. Plenty of so-called Bitcoin Nutters have made a killing doing nothing more than staying patient and calm for an extended period of time.

(Of course, that's not to say that BTC will **definitely** keep rising. That's a call you have to make yourself based on reading around the subject.)
legendary
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January 23, 2014, 06:55:27 AM
#34
EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.

I bought loads of coins at those price levels, sold, bought more, sold, bought more. I have made several thousand quid since late November when I started speculating with Bitcoin.

I did however also by a shed load of coins at $1100. The price dipped to $1050, then lower. I started to sell at a loss.

What do you think the advice was from the mainstay of the Bitcoin Nutter dipshits on this forum?

"If u sell now, u will only be crying when you have to buy back in later at $1300"

lol...idiots.

The losses I took were soon recooperated by further trading around the double top and twice have I caught Bitcoin spot price deathslides (that 'nobody seen coming' at least not going by the drivel written on this forum) pretty damn near the bottom, making a packet the first time around and admittedly pishing my pants on the second one, buying in at $540 but panic selling at $490. Since then, I have continued to trade Bitcoin, winning some and losing some, but mostly winning.

If I had done what you have done, which is exactly what most of the arseholes on this forum would have recommended I do. I wouldn't have made thousands, I would be simply treading water. No better off than I was  two months ago.

I am glad I know better than to allow myself to be bamboozled by The Bitcoin Nutter.

LIke I always say. It is much different if you own bitcoins at single or double digits like 80% or more of bitcoin owners, than if you actually have to pay $1000 for a coin. These nutters wouldn't be telling you to sit and hold if they paid over $1000 with their hard earned fiat.

Investing at these prices you have to take a lot of precautions or you will lose a lot of money. I see no reason why the price can't go below $500 in just a few days.

Bitcoin is a house of cards, and is now a Skycraper of cards at these prices. All it would take is just a slight increase in people wanting to cash out and the price would fall so quickly.

you are honestly better off putting your money in dogecoin than bitcoin in my opinion. Just as much risk with a much higher reward. Bitcoin is just too darn expensive and you are relying on the hope that bitcoin holders will continue to hoard.

lol, the price of a single bitcoin does not matter regarding to how much or how probable one might lose or make money. if the guy can invest $ 1000 he can lose it all (but no one ever has lost all by hodling) or make a decent profit (which all of us did that bought before november.) this was the same last year or two years before. it is the percentage rise what gets you the profit, not the absolute price.

you are seriously advising a newbie to better buy doge ? after telling us generously how much you profited from bitcoin yourself ?  wtf are guys like you doing in a bitcoin forum ?
sr. member
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January 23, 2014, 05:37:27 AM
#33
i think we will be below this levels again. we may go up first, who knows, but i think you could time a better long term entry than this.  Smiley
hero member
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January 23, 2014, 05:34:02 AM
#32
you don't gotta tell me bud , I been Hodling before it was cool.
legendary
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Hide your women
January 22, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
#31
Say it seems to be that there is a very fast upward trend, at what price would you buy so you don't miss the train.

I am reckoning if it rapidly increases to buy at $1000 but I want to know what you guys would do.

Also what does ATH mean?

Thanks

All Time High.  that was ~$1200 depending on the exchange, so no worries there. Just put you toe in the water and start buying. if it goes up, buy more. if it goes down, buy a lot more. Start selling after the next ATH.  I like selling 4% of my total stake after every 10% increase, then buying back 3% after every 15% drop.
legendary
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January 22, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
#30
LIke I always say. It is much different if you own bitcoins at single or double digits like 80% or more of bitcoin owners, than if you actually have to pay $1000 for a coin. These nutters wouldn't be telling you to sit and hold if they paid over $1000 with their hard earned fiat.

Investing at these prices you have to take a lot of precautions or you will lose a lot of money. I see no reason why the price can't go below $500 in just a few days.

Bitcoin is a house of cards, and is now a Skycraper of cards at these prices. All it would take is just a slight increase in people wanting to cash out and the price would fall so quickly.

you are honestly better off putting your money in dogecoin than bitcoin in my opinion. Just as much risk with a much higher reward. Bitcoin is just too darn expensive and you are relying on the hope that bitcoin holders will continue to hoard.

Dogecoin is empty and meaningless pump n dump, blatantly conceived as a kind of joke and a whole lot of people are gonna get bitten by the dog, at which point the joke may start to wear a little thin.

Long before I invested in Bitcoin, I was spending them and aware of whole online marketplaces that were based upon them. This sort of real grounding in economic transactions gave Bitcoin psycholigical 'value'.

WTF is dogecoin? Nothing but a fad that has probably already had its time in the limelight.

All Alt-coins are based on nothing more than Bitcoins success. Most of them won't be around or relevant for very long....perhaps there is a dark horse amongst them that will turn to be the long term winner, but if there is, I doubt that it is Dogecoin.

STRONG BUY INDICATOR

/buys 1mil DOGE for lulz
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Stand on the shoulders of giants
January 22, 2014, 08:35:21 PM
#29
Hold Huh Huh Huh

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January 22, 2014, 07:22:45 PM
#28
LIke I always say. It is much different if you own bitcoins at single or double digits like 80% or more of bitcoin owners, than if you actually have to pay $1000 for a coin. These nutters wouldn't be telling you to sit and hold if they paid over $1000 with their hard earned fiat.

Investing at these prices you have to take a lot of precautions or you will lose a lot of money. I see no reason why the price can't go below $500 in just a few days.

Bitcoin is a house of cards, and is now a Skycraper of cards at these prices. All it would take is just a slight increase in people wanting to cash out and the price would fall so quickly.

you are honestly better off putting your money in dogecoin than bitcoin in my opinion. Just as much risk with a much higher reward. Bitcoin is just too darn expensive and you are relying on the hope that bitcoin holders will continue to hoard.

Dogecoin is empty and meaningless pump n dump, blatantly conceived as a kind of joke and a whole lot of people are gonna get bitten by the dog, at which point the joke may start to wear a little thin.

Long before I invested in Bitcoin, I was spending them and aware of whole online marketplaces that were based upon them. This sort of real grounding in economic transactions gave Bitcoin psycholigical 'value'.

WTF is dogecoin? Nothing but a fad that has probably already had its time in the limelight.

All Alt-coins are based on nothing more than Bitcoins success. Most of them won't be around or relevant for very long....perhaps there is a dark horse amongst them that will turn to be the long term winner, but if there is, I doubt that it is Dogecoin.
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January 22, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
#27
EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.

I bought loads of coins at those price levels, sold, bought more, sold, bought more. I have made several thousand quid since late November when I started speculating with Bitcoin.

I did however also by a shed load of coins at $1100. The price dipped to $1050, then lower. I started to sell at a loss.

What do you think the advice was from the mainstay of the Bitcoin Nutter dipshits on this forum?

"If u sell now, u will only be crying when you have to buy back in later at $1300"

lol...idiots.

The losses I took were soon recooperated by further trading around the double top and twice have I caught Bitcoin spot price deathslides (that 'nobody seen coming' at least not going by the drivel written on this forum) pretty damn near the bottom, making a packet the first time around and admittedly pishing my pants on the second one, buying in at $540 but panic selling at $490. Since then, I have continued to trade Bitcoin, winning some and losing some, but mostly winning.

If I had done what you have done, which is exactly what most of the arseholes on this forum would have recommended I do. I wouldn't have made thousands, I would be simply treading water. No better off than I was  two months ago.

I am glad I know better than to allow myself to be bamboozled by The Bitcoin Nutter.

LIke I always say. It is much different if you own bitcoins at single or double digits like 80% or more of bitcoin owners, than if you actually have to pay $1000 for a coin. These nutters wouldn't be telling you to sit and hold if they paid over $1000 with their hard earned fiat.

Investing at these prices you have to take a lot of precautions or you will lose a lot of money. I see no reason why the price can't go below $500 in just a few days.

Bitcoin is a house of cards, and is now a Skycraper of cards at these prices. All it would take is just a slight increase in people wanting to cash out and the price would fall so quickly.

you are honestly better off putting your money in dogecoin than bitcoin in my opinion. Just as much risk with a much higher reward. Bitcoin is just too darn expensive and you are relying on the hope that bitcoin holders will continue to hoard.
legendary
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January 22, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
#26
EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.

I bought loads of coins at those price levels, sold, bought more, sold, bought more. I have made several thousand quid since late November when I started speculating with Bitcoin.

I did however also by a shed load of coins at $1100. The price dipped to $1050, then lower. I started to sell at a loss.

What do you think the advice was from the mainstay of the Bitcoin Nutter dipshits on this forum?

"If u sell now, u will only be crying when you have to buy back in later at $1300"

lol...idiots.

The losses I took were soon recooperated by further trading around the double top and twice have I caught Bitcoin spot price deathslides (that 'nobody seen coming' at least not going by the drivel written on this forum) pretty damn near the bottom, making a packet the first time around and admittedly pishing my pants on the second one, buying in at $540 but panic selling at $490. Since then, I have continued to trade Bitcoin, winning some and losing some, but mostly winning.

If I had done what you have done, which is exactly what most of the arseholes on this forum would have recommended I do. I wouldn't have made thousands, I would be simply treading water. No better off than I was  two months ago.

I am glad I know better than to allow myself to be bamboozled by The Bitcoin Nutter.

I hope you realize " The Bitcoin Nutter " of these days is to sell before it "drops".
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January 22, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
#25
EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.

I bought loads of coins at those price levels, sold, bought more, sold, bought more. I have made several thousand quid since late November when I started speculating with Bitcoin.

I did however also by a shed load of coins at $1100. The price dipped to $1050, then lower. I started to sell at a loss.

What do you think the advice was from the mainstay of the Bitcoin Nutter dipshits on this forum?

"If u sell now, u will only be crying when you have to buy back in later at $1300"

lol...idiots.

The losses I took were soon recooperated by further trading around the double top and twice have I caught Bitcoin spot price deathslides (that 'nobody seen coming' at least not going by the drivel written on this forum) pretty damn near the bottom, making a packet the first time around and admittedly pishing my pants on the second one, buying in at $540 but panic selling at $490. Since then, I have continued to trade Bitcoin, winning some and losing some, but mostly winning.

If I had done what you have done, which is exactly what most of the arseholes on this forum would have recommended I do. I wouldn't have made thousands, I would be simply treading water. No better off than I was  two months ago.

I am glad I know better than to allow myself to be bamboozled by The Bitcoin Nutter.
legendary
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January 22, 2014, 05:57:23 PM
#24
Buy enough BTC to eventually able to take Virgin Galactic to at least Mars or give enough to kids/grandkids to go to Alpha Centauri by 2140. Wink
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Screw It, Let's Do It
January 22, 2014, 05:46:46 PM
#23

So, what was the advice?

EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.

That's not investing. That's called speculating  Wink
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January 22, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
#22

Fair enough, this is the advice I needed.

Thanks

I don't know how much money u have to invest.....

...but before you invest on the basis of having found 'the advice you needed'.

Go and search through Segeln's (or practically anyone else who has posted in this thread) post history and see what he was saying about Bitcoin when it was up at $1100. Perhaps he also gave 'advice' to some other new investor. What was the general 'advice' going around on this forum when Bitcoin was $1100?

(Rhetorical question, I know what the 'advice' was and what it always will be on this forum....always beware of the Bitcoin Nutter!)

So, what was the advice?

BUY BUY BUY Cheesy
legendary
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January 22, 2014, 05:42:50 PM
#21

Fair enough, this is the advice I needed.

Thanks

I don't know how much money u have to invest.....

...but before you invest on the basis of having found 'the advice you needed'.

Go and search through Segeln's (or practically anyone else who has posted in this thread) post history and see what he was saying about Bitcoin when it was up at $1100. Perhaps he also gave 'advice' to some other new investor. What was the general 'advice' going around on this forum when Bitcoin was $1100?

(Rhetorical question, I know what the 'advice' was and what it always will be on this forum....always beware of the Bitcoin Nutter!)

So, what was the advice?

EDIT: I bought 17 Coins @$780 (Stamp) 2-3 months ago. After a lot of ups and downs I´m still nearly there where I started. I would say, only invest in long term. I will hodl until its worth to cashout.
sr. member
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January 22, 2014, 05:40:16 PM
#20
As for prices to look for (mt.gox):

On the way up: $1093 has been a resistance point.. if we go past that, the next one to test would be $1242. If we go higher than that, we're in unknown territory.

Going down.. I think there was support at $850 something? So I would buy a little there. Past that we have the 450-600 level, which I find hard to believe that we would break through. But if we do, the next support level would be around $260.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
January 22, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
#19
If you're buying for the future, or indeed any time, the most important thing is to get the largest amount of coins for your money so the purchase price right now does count.

Piling all in makes sense during a very extended calm period like the summer of this year or after one mother of a correction. I've the feeling that the next few weeks won't be as calm as some people expect them to be.

Those screaming about $100 coins are hard to take seriously. A 25% fall doesn't take much to accomplish and gives you that much more powerful a gain in the future.

You've got to decide for yourself of course. I've pretty much bought all I'm going to and won't sell any for a long time to come. If there is a decent-sized fall I will go for a final top up.
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