This is a widely adaptation to the use of Bitcoin in my country are not supporting this kind of feature yet instead, we are using an e-wallet that can easily buy and sell Bitcoin the same with the exchange but those e-wallets are now accepting cryptocurrency; we have a sim registration yet for the verification of the KYC so sooner or later this might adopt into us too.
The question on this is, whether the sim must be supported too with the KYC?, because if they can buy bitcoin into this I guess must need to have personal information else people can buy a bitcoin with the sim without the hassle of this.
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I'm not too fond of those apps either, but I simply don't have too many choices if I want to communicate with people who mostly use those apps.
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As for having a phone number, I obviously live in a country where it is almost necessary, whether it is to deliver a package (the delivery person always makes a call before delivery) or to receive notifications from a government service or even from your doctor.
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As for having a phone number, I obviously live in a country where it is almost necessary, whether it is to deliver a package (the delivery person always makes a call before delivery) or to receive notifications from a government service or even from your doctor.
some people feel they need to talk to you, so don't give them your number (use a messenger app that doesn't need a phone number instead). this is exactly how I did it: got a new phone and then minimized the people who were given the number...
...which for sure included any delivery drivers, doctors or (lol) government services. these people invariably dislike dealing with me, I'm pretty proud of that too
~snip~
Not that much expensive if you are a latest iPhone user!
Not that much expensive if you are a latest iPhone user!
I guess you're right, because for someone who can afford to pay for a smartphone over 1000 EUR or even for some foldable models over 2000 EUR, that 76 EUR seems like a real trifle.
But the problem is the costs, it's crazy because a data plan with 20gb for 30 days costs more than €25 when I currently spend less than €7 with my company...so I see no reason to spend almost 4 times as much more.
There is no reason for you to use this service when you are still at home, i mean in your country; you should surely get cheaper data when you just buy directly from your service provider. This service only comes in handy when you are travelling outside of your country, that is when you can compare the cost and charges of either using this eSim service from Bitrefill or just buying a sim card when you arrive the country and buying data with it.Partly true and partly not. When I travel within the European community with my operator plan if I make calls to my country no cost is applied so it is still convenient for me to keep my subscription. While when it comes to going beyond the European Union then perhaps this subscription can be convenient, obviously your device must be compatible with those e-sims.
But the problem is the costs, it's crazy because a data plan with 20gb for 30 days costs more than €25 when I currently spend less than €7 with my company...so I see no reason to spend almost 4 times as much more.
There is no reason for you to use this service when you are still at home, i mean in your country; you should surely get cheaper data when you just buy directly from your service provider. This service only comes in handy when you are travelling outside of your country, that is when you can compare the cost and charges of either using this eSim service from Bitrefill or just buying a sim card when you arrive the country and buying data with it. 
In addition I checked Bitrefill eSIM Global and the price for only 5 GB of data is even 76 EUR
Not that much expensive if you are a latest iPhone user!
eSIMs have not been advertised even one bit in my country. That alone says a lot about their compatibility. If they ever come to cheaper smartphones, prepare for a ton of commercials.
Finally a realistic device provider in the world of crypto. Though I am not sure why every service is not yet available in the form Bitcoin or basically crypto currencies. Today we are already seeing gift cards, payment accepted here boards, third party purchases and even gas station too.
However, this could be done on major scale I think, every businesses can adopt this if everyone just see it as mode of payment.
I think even if this is data on e-sim it’s even best as you can continue to use the social media apps. There is high usage of phone calls via WhatsApp, messanger, insta and much more. I think having just data is also more than enough these days.
Looking forward to see what they have more in the carts.
However, this could be done on major scale I think, every businesses can adopt this if everyone just see it as mode of payment.
They are also accepting ETH and stable coins.
I personally do not think the market for data only privacy e-Sims is a large one, but any sort of adoption is a positive.
I personally do not think the market for data only privacy e-Sims is a large one, but any sort of adoption is a positive.
I think even if this is data on e-sim it’s even best as you can continue to use the social media apps. There is high usage of phone calls via WhatsApp, messanger, insta and much more. I think having just data is also more than enough these days.
Looking forward to see what they have more in the carts.
popular applications such as [snip]
i'm quite proud to be using unpopular message applications I'm not too fond of those apps either, but I simply don't have too many choices if I want to communicate with people who mostly use those apps. I know there are alternatives, but persuading people to use them is very difficult, similar to how most people still use Twitter (or is it called X now?) regardless of the alternatives.
I got my new phone a few years back, and I haven't given the actual telephone number to more than about 10 people IIRC. and very few actually use that number out of those who have it, almost all messaging/calls happen over internet-based comms for me. e-SIMs with no phone number seem to be a (belated) recognition of how meaningless the telephone system is these days, a few changes to my lifestyle and I think I could ditch telephones altogether
I also have a smartphone that is several years old and I paid about 700 EUR for it, and I still consider it a very good device, although unfortunately it has not received any update for more than 1 year. Unfortunately, the official specifications say that it does not support eSIM, but when the time comes for a new device, I will definitely pay attention that it also has that feature.
As for having a phone number, I obviously live in a country where it is almost necessary, whether it is to deliver a package (the delivery person always makes a call before delivery) or to receive notifications from a government service or even from your doctor.
While it's accurate that the adoption of e-SIM supported devices among Bitcoin users isn't widespread, the global trend is gradually moving towards increased adoption. Personally, I'm focusing on observations within my country, where there seems to be a limited number of e-SIM users who are acquainted with Bitcoin. Nevertheless, it's a positive development that Bitcoin can be directly used to purchase a sim card.
For travellers, you can now buy e-sim with bitcoin, using the on-chain transfer or the bitcoin lightning payment. This is supported in 140 countries.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
I had seen the announcement in their Instagram channel a few days ago and so I went to see if there was a possibility for my country (Italy) to have an e-sim and I was amazed because there are so many countries in the world that are supported. But the problem is the costs, it's crazy because a data plan with 20gb for 30 days costs more than €25 when I currently spend less than €7 with my company...so I see no reason to spend almost 4 times as much more.
popular applications such as [snip]
i'm quite proud to be using unpopular message applications
I got my new phone a few years back, and I haven't given the actual telephone number to more than about 10 people IIRC. and very few actually use that number out of those who have it, almost all messaging/calls happen over internet-based comms for me. e-SIMs with no phone number seem to be a (belated) recognition of how meaningless the telephone system is these days, a few changes to my lifestyle and I think I could ditch telephones altogether
For travellers, you can now buy e-sim with bitcoin, using the on-chain transfer or the bitcoin lightning payment. This is supported in 140 countries.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
Thanks to Bitrefill and eSIM Go for promoting the possibility of living wholly on bitcoin. One hundred and forty countries is massive. At least the hurdle of buying data in another country have been reduced to some extend. Everything to promote bitcoin awareness and adoption is good news. https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
Cool, but your phone has to be eSIM compatible, and unfortunately most cheap smartphones are not. If you click on "compatible devices" you will mostly see iPhones, newest Samsung phones and Google pixels.
This will be a challenge for those that cannot afford such phones because of the cost. But more cheaper phones might become compatible in the future. 
Nice, if this is just a data-only sim. This is useful for those people that have contacts through their socials, even with or without number.
This is the kind of product that we want to see. Anyone who actually took and able to purchase this e-sim? An ideal data provider for those who travel frequently.
And not only that, can be paid with crypto. But hopefully, telcos and sim providers will consider it someday to pay load stuff, data and etc, with btc and cryptos.
This is the kind of product that we want to see. Anyone who actually took and able to purchase this e-sim? An ideal data provider for those who travel frequently.
And not only that, can be paid with crypto. But hopefully, telcos and sim providers will consider it someday to pay load stuff, data and etc, with btc and cryptos.
Cool, but your phone has to be eSIM compatible, and unfortunately most cheap smartphones are not. If you click on "compatible devices" you will mostly see iPhones, newest Samsung phones and Google pixels.
A time is coming that almost all phones will be able to use e-sim, or at least the mid range phones.Hopefully it's soon, because I've checked the list and at this point it's only the newest edition. I have a 2 year old phone and it's not on the list and the few ones that I've checked cost at least $500.
My target is usually below that because I buy a phone for everyday use outside, which means that it can fall to the ground, get scratched and all that.
If they can add this option to your average $300 phone, I might be interested, especially since I've used Bitrefill a few times and never had any issues with them.
It works with the Pixel 6A which is $349.99 MSRP but is routinely on sale for $299 you just have to wait and catch it at that price.
You can also wipe the OS and install Graphine
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/grapheneos-btc-donations-for-pixel7-5416327
The 6A seems to be a much better phone then the 6 that I had. At least from the discussions out there.
Also, I tried it with a phone that supports esim that was not listed and it DID work. But, obviously YMMV with that. (razr 2019)
At a *guess* any device that supports the esim standard should work.That's why they call it a standard. But, if whatever service they are using didn't test it they don't want to support it.
And I really don't blame that on that.
-Dave
Cool, but your phone has to be eSIM compatible, and unfortunately most cheap smartphones are not. If you click on "compatible devices" you will mostly see iPhones, newest Samsung phones and Google pixels.
A time is coming that almost all phones will be able to use e-sim, or at least the mid range phones.Hopefully it's soon, because I've checked the list and at this point it's only the newest edition. I have a 2 year old phone and it's not on the list and the few ones that I've checked cost at least $500.
My target is usually below that because I buy a phone for everyday use outside, which means that it can fall to the ground, get scratched and all that.
If they can add this option to your average $300 phone, I might be interested, especially since I've used Bitrefill a few times and never had any issues with them.
For travellers, you can now buy e-sim with bitcoin, using the on-chain transfer or the bitcoin lightning payment. This is supported in 140 countries.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
This is really a commendable thing because many travelers travel to different countries and have to use the country's own currency to buy anything and also to buy a SIM. In this case, it is necessary to convert the country's currency and carry it with you, otherwise an international debit or credit card should be used. But international payments through debit and credit cards incur additional charges. However, the facility through Bitcoin is very beneficial for them. Because Bitcoin is a currency that supports and can be used in every country. Thanks for sharing this information https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
This is great news!
For someone who likes to travel and uses cryptocurrencies as well (like me), this could be very useful. I've just checked the site and the prices are even cheap, I'd spend more money getting a roaming package from my provider than on bitrefill. Global packages can be pricey, but you can get Regional which is cheaper and more efficient. And they have great coverage as well.
For someone who likes to travel and uses cryptocurrencies as well (like me), this could be very useful. I've just checked the site and the prices are even cheap, I'd spend more money getting a roaming package from my provider than on bitrefill. Global packages can be pricey, but you can get Regional which is cheaper and more efficient. And they have great coverage as well.
Cool, but your phone has to be eSIM compatible, and unfortunately most cheap smartphones are not. If you click on "compatible devices" you will mostly see iPhones, newest Samsung phones and Google pixels.
E-SIM compatible phones have been out for a long time now on the more expensive models. But since it isn't a new thing, It should be brought to lower end phones soon. Low end phones are quickly replaced anyway, so this could be really useful to everyone soon enough. ~snip~
Although I'm not sure if that is something I need/ would ever need to do
Although I'm not sure if that is something I need/ would ever need to do
If you are not traveling outside the country where you live, then you do not need this kind of service, and if you are going on such a trip, there is always the option of buying a local prepaid SIM card and using it during your stay in that country. For example, I do not need to buy an additional SIM if I travel within the European Union and the European Economic Area, because the roaming rules apply within that area, which means that I pay the same price for services as if I were in my own country.
~snip~
and also, phone number? who even uses those these day?
and also, phone number? who even uses those these day?
Given that you need a mobile number to use popular applications such as Viber, WhatsApp or Telegram, most people still have their own mobile number, and I don't believe that this will change so quickly, regardless of the new technologies that are already present. Of course, these applications can also be activated using a virtual number, but most people still choose the standard approach.
For travellers, you can now buy e-sim with bitcoin, using the on-chain transfer or the bitcoin lightning payment. This is supported in 140 countries.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-crypto-to-buy-sim-cards-in-140-countries-bitrefill
What I found out on bitrefill site is that it is data only e-sim, it does not come with a number. It is said that it is cheaper, but I do not know if this is true or not.
E SIMs are pretty wild, you can use APIs to make it look like you're dialing from another country, or have like much more sophisticated data analytics etc etc. Nice to know you can get one with some BTC! Although I'm not sure if that is something I need/ would ever need to do
e-sim is a step in the right direction for mobile subscriber tokens, i believe
the physical SIM card system turned into a rats nest of vendor malware nasties that you weren't always aware of, and even if you were, were not easy to get rid of.
an e-sim format could (in principle) be open/free software, and even if it wasn't, it can be analyzed and tamed by those with the skills to do so.
so I'm looking forward to using them, although i'm like most everyone else in that i don't have a phone that supports it yet.
and also, phone number? who even uses those these day?
the physical SIM card system turned into a rats nest of vendor malware nasties that you weren't always aware of, and even if you were, were not easy to get rid of.
an e-sim format could (in principle) be open/free software, and even if it wasn't, it can be analyzed and tamed by those with the skills to do so.
so I'm looking forward to using them, although i'm like most everyone else in that i don't have a phone that supports it yet.
and also, phone number? who even uses those these day?
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