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Topic: Buying 200k BTC. $2/BTC - page 3. (Read 11158 times)

legendary
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April 09, 2011, 03:43:49 AM
#7
Hello fellow users,

Let's assume I want to buy 200k-400k BTC in the next few months. This represents the number of Bitcoins generated by the global network in 1-2 months, and also about 1-2 months of average volume at MtGox (which indicates most miners resell everything). How do I buy by minimizing disruption of the market?

1/ MtGox's volume info includes the dark pool. Based on the known volume (~7k BTC/day) it is not large enough to avoid a price eruption.

MtGox has seen some 100k+ days.  One method is simply buying slowly from MtGox over the next few months. 400k / 90 days == 4.4k per day, something the market can absorb IMO.

But even if you double the volume, there is not going to be a huge disruption.  Yes there is a tipping point, but I wouldn't necessarily judge MtGox by the current slow period.

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2/ There is not enough liquidity from my viewpoint on any other markets, including the OTC market.

Agreed, though you might try some of the manual exchangers such as nanoimogold or aurumexchange.  They probably have a stock (where "stock" is a few thousand bitcoins).

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3/ I could invest the money in a mining farm, but I would probably need to hire someone as it seems time-consuming.

vladimir, mrb and BitcoinRigs offer something vaguely similar:  You pay for Ghash/sec, and they give you zero-variance BTC payouts based on the purchased hash rate + current bitcoin network difficulty.

But this is quite expensive, and you'll reach a point of diminishing returns rather quickly, much more quickly than your goal.


The bitcoins are definitely out there to be had, as the price increases.  MtGox makes life easy and should accomplish your goal over time, but I bet you can find a fair amount by canvassing various community exchangers.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
April 09, 2011, 03:16:27 AM
#6
Maybe you are soliciting offers, but I don't see an offer from you. What are you offering?

MtGox only has 50k BTC for sale up to $1.3/BTC.

So let's start: who is interested to sell Bitcoins at $2/BTC? And how many?
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
April 09, 2011, 03:07:49 AM
#5
I think you posted in the wrong forum, the right forum in my opinion would be economic or technical.
Here people do real trade.

I am offering to buy 200k BTC.

Maybe you are soliciting offers, but I don't see an offer from you. What are you offering?
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
April 09, 2011, 03:05:49 AM
#4
I think you posted in the wrong forum, the right forum in my opinion would be economic or technical.
Here people do real trade.

I am offering to buy 200k BTC.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
April 09, 2011, 03:03:18 AM
#3
On average there are 6 blocks an hour which comes to (6*24*50) = 7200/day. So you are looking at <28 days worth, not 2 years. Even this much will move the market substantially. What do you think happens if you try to buy 5% of all dollars? Or 5% of all gold? Obviously disruption. You can't even know how many coins you will want or be able to afford until you start buying. Either way it sounds like you should do some studying before you sink the millions that will be needed into this. Otoh if you have millions sitting around you should probably fix that problem pretty quickly.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
April 09, 2011, 03:02:10 AM
#2
I think you posted in the wrong forum, the right forum in my opinion would be economic or technical.
Here people do real trade.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
April 09, 2011, 02:31:58 AM
#1
Hello fellow users,

Let's assume I want to buy 200k-400k BTC in the next few months. This represents the number of Bitcoins generated by the global network in 1-2 months, and also about 1-2 months of average volume at MtGox (which indicates most miners resell everything). How do I buy by minimizing disruption of the market?

1/ MtGox's volume info includes the dark pool. Based on the known volume (~7k BTC/day) it is not large enough to avoid a price eruption.

2/ There is not enough liquidity from my viewpoint on any other markets, including the OTC market.

3/ I could invest the money in a mining farm, but I would probably need to hire someone as it seems time-consuming.

I would like to hear some of your ideas. There are many smart folks here.

Edited to fix some errors in my reasoning (thanks FreeMoney).
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