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Quote from: karmamiu on March 27, 2023, 05:54:58 AM

I don't really understand people sometimes. You always wanted to buy when it's cheap, when was the last time it was cheap? As far as I can remember when I first learned about investments few years ago, that is the first thing they told me which is to buy when the price dips down, and how far the price went since the first person told me that? If I were to say, there is no correct or exact timing when will the price go down so you could restock or buy the dip.

Better to buy whenever you have extra money rather than regretting not buying earlier.

It was cheap when you didn't know about investing in bitcoin. Here's an ironic paradox.

We always want to buy cheaper and sell more expensive, as OP advises. In practice, it is difficult to guess with this and it is unreasonable to expect the best price for buying and selling. As for me, this is how you should buy at the first opportunity that has fallen out and, in the same way, sell if it makes a profit. You need to proceed from your expectations, goals and strategy.

you will only rely your instincts on this matter. as no one can precisely predict the future, you will only base your decision from its history. you can also get insights on various threads of discussions but it doesn't mean, you need to follow them, but will give you enlightenment on certain matters.
also, buying cheap may be true to btc, but when it comes to other alts, you will likely be screwed as most of them will continuously to go down without the hope of reviving their market price. but when you buy btc, you should also make sure that it is not your last money as you may end up selling it below your buying price if you have urgent needs.

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Quote from: nullama on March 27, 2023, 05:27:19 PM

Quote from: m2017 on March 27, 2023, 12:31:07 PM

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We always want to buy cheaper and sell more expensive, as OP advises. In practice, it is difficult to guess with this and it is unreasonable to expect the best price for buying and selling. As for me, this is how you should buy at the first opportunity that has fallen out and, in the same way, sell if it makes a profit. You need to proceed from your expectations, goals and strategy.

I see Bitcoin more of a great savings account.

The more you wait to use your funds, the better value you'll get. Just keep saving all the time until you need it.

If you did the same with fiat, say in Argentina, after 10 or so years you literally would have 1% of the purchasing power.

Yeah, more of a store of value. And it's about the timing of getting in, we have been blessed so many times, specially for none early birds to purchase when the price is cheap at $4k during the pandemic. And it could be the same fate around November last year when the price is $15,500. So we must say that they have the same similarities now and we might not see that price range to buy in the future. So it's really up to us to take advantage when the price is very cheap as it might not present itself and that opportunity is gone for good. It doesn't mean that you will need to buy 1 BTC because for the majority of us, it's impossible. What we need to or learn is to slowly save and continue to stack sats as many as we can throughout our bitcoin journey.

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Quote from: m2017 on March 27, 2023, 12:31:07 PM

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We always want to buy cheaper and sell more expensive, as OP advises. In practice, it is difficult to guess with this and it is unreasonable to expect the best price for buying and selling. As for me, this is how you should buy at the first opportunity that has fallen out and, in the same way, sell if it makes a profit. You need to proceed from your expectations, goals and strategy.

I see Bitcoin more of a great savings account.

The more you wait to use your funds, the better value you'll get. Just keep saving all the time until you need it.

If you did the same with fiat, say in Argentina, after 10 or so years you literally would have 1% of the purchasing power.

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Quote from: karmamiu on March 27, 2023, 05:54:58 AM

I don't really understand people sometimes. You always wanted to buy when it's cheap, when was the last time it was cheap? As far as I can remember when I first learned about investments few years ago, that is the first thing they told me which is to buy when the price dips down, and how far the price went since the first person told me that? If I were to say, there is no correct or exact timing when will the price go down so you could restock or buy the dip.

Better to buy whenever you have extra money rather than regretting not buying earlier.

It was cheap when you didn't know about investing in bitcoin. Here's an ironic paradox.

We always want to buy cheaper and sell more expensive, as OP advises. In practice, it is difficult to guess with this and it is unreasonable to expect the best price for buying and selling. As for me, this is how you should buy at the first opportunity that has fallen out and, in the same way, sell if it makes a profit. You need to proceed from your expectations, goals and strategy.

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Quote from: RockBell on March 27, 2023, 11:49:15 AM

When it comes to purchasing, some people have a lot of doubts and still claim that bitcoin is a scam. However, even though there are risks involved in investing in bitcoin, there are also benefits. However, since everyone is free to form their own opinions, the best strategy is to buy cheaply and gradually build up your holdings until your goal is reached because it is very expensive to buy one bitcoin at once. that is for some individuals doh they are people that can afford more than one bitcoin but everyone knows what they are capable of or what they can afford.

It's not possible for everyone these days to buy a complete bitcoin and it's not advisable to invest 27k$ at one price of bitcoin. Rather it's best to invest slowly in DCA manner. Of course we can't ignore the risks involved in bitcoin and anyone who can't bear the risk of bitcoin must not come close to bitcoin. I do agree with your point that one must afford as much as he can afford to lose. Since its a risky investment there is no need to invest all your savings in bitcoin.

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When it comes to purchasing, some people have a lot of doubts and still claim that bitcoin is a scam. However, even though there are risks involved in investing in bitcoin, there are also benefits. However, since everyone is free to form their own opinions, the best strategy is to buy cheaply and gradually build up your holdings until your goal is reached because it is very expensive to buy one bitcoin at once. that is for some individuals doh they are people that can afford more than one bitcoin but everyone knows what they are capable of or what they can afford.

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Quote from: karmamiu on March 27, 2023, 05:54:58 AM

I don't really understand people sometimes. You always wanted to buy when it's cheap, when was the last time it was cheap? As far as I can remember when I first learned about investments few years ago, that is the first thing they told me which is to buy when the price dips down, and how far the price went since the first person told me that? If I were to say, there is no correct or exact timing when will the price go down so you could restock or buy the dip.

Better to buy whenever you have extra money rather than regretting not buying earlier.

I agree with this statement, I also don't know how cheap one wants. When bitcoin dropped to $15k last year, people were still waiting for a cheaper price to buy, and now bitcoin is at $28k, and people still say they wait for bitcoin to drop to buy cheaper. It's really hard to understand what other people are thinking and wanting.
Bitcoin is a long-term investment, and to me, cheap is the lower price I will sell. My goal is to sell bitcoin for 150k, so as long as bitcoin is below 150k, I will buy whenever I have money.

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Quote from: karmamiu on March 27, 2023, 05:54:58 AM

I don't really understand people sometimes. You always wanted to buy when it's cheap, when was the last time it was cheap? As far as I can remember when I first learned about investments few years ago, that is the first thing they told me which is to buy when the price dips down, and how far the price went since the first person told me that? If I were to say, there is no correct or exact timing when will the price go down so you could restock or buy the dip.

Better to buy whenever you have extra money rather than regretting not buying earlier.

The thing is that cheap is relative.

What is cheap?, $1?, $100, $10,000?, it has already passed those levels already so are they cheap really?, maybe it will always be cheap compared to a future value.

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I don't really understand people sometimes. You always wanted to buy when it's cheap, when was the last time it was cheap? As far as I can remember when I first learned about investments few years ago, that is the first thing they told me which is to buy when the price dips down, and how far the price went since the first person told me that? If I were to say, there is no correct or exact timing when will the price go down so you could restock or buy the dip.

Better to buy whenever you have extra money rather than regretting not buying earlier.

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Quote from: Gladitorcomeback on March 27, 2023, 02:48:38 AM

Now the price is about 28k$ so its not lower as the people think and not everyone can buy bitcoin at this price so I will suggest that for the better investment strategy keep your eye on cost as the cost slightly reduces then hold some bitcoin.

My opinion is that at what price you buy bitcoin you will get profit because year by year bitcoin rises more than the previous year.

Yes, the price has almost doubled when looking at the values of the last bottom, but it is still an acceptable price to buy. The price is significant, but the advantage of bitcoin is that we can buy it in parts, not necessarily buying it in its entirety. My guess is that there may be a correction now and perhaps it will be prolonged, but this may give us the opportunity for even more bitcoin at a good price.

But what if your prediction doesn't come true? There is no guarantee bitcoin will correct from now on, so I think we should buy now, and as you said, we can buy it in parts.
DCA is still the perfect solution in all situations, as we cannot predict the future, bitcoin is up 40% since the bottom, so we think a correction is understandable, but no guarantees. $28k is a high price compared to the $15k bottom, but it's still a very low price compared to the old ATH. Don't let bitcoin to 35k-40k just start buying, the market always has surprises, it never moves according to our predictions.

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Yes buying low is the best formula in the crypto space but it doesn't ends there, many people buy bitcoin for a cheap price and they have a problem holding the coin before the time ripe for a sell, they got tired of holding and they sold, you need to prepare yourself mentally to achieve the dream that many holders have achieved years ago while holding bitcoin, believe when I say, it's never going to be easy, that's why those who don't have extra source of income have no business with bitcoin HODL, even if they try they will fail.

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Quote from: Gladitorcomeback on March 27, 2023, 02:48:38 AM

Now the price is about 28k$ so its not lower as the people think and not everyone can buy bitcoin at this price so I will suggest that for the better investment strategy keep your eye on cost as the cost slightly reduces then hold some bitcoin.

My opinion is that at what price you buy bitcoin you will get profit because year by year bitcoin rises more than the previous year.

Yes, the price has almost doubled when looking at the values of the last bottom, but it is still an acceptable price to buy. The price is significant, but the advantage of bitcoin is that we can buy it in parts, not necessarily buying it in its entirety. My guess is that there may be a correction now and perhaps it will be prolonged, but this may give us the opportunity for even more bitcoin at a good price.

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yes it is a good formula that buying low and sell high because it will increase your profit and reduce the chances of losses. But for this activity you should keep eyes on price chart and price evaluation and one cannot realize the price in advance but by comparing the past value and the present value one can get the results about the investment.

Now the price is about 28k$ so its not lower as the people think and not everyone can buy bitcoin at this price so I will suggest that for the better investment strategy keep your eye on cost as the cost slightly reduces then hold some bitcoin.

My opinion is that at what price you buy bitcoin you will get profit because year by year bitcoin rises more than the previous year.

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Quote from: Greggry on March 21, 2023, 02:29:35 PM

This period do not encourage trading or investment but at the same time when price is down is good opportunity to buy cheap and when its explode you will gain it. Nothing is lost in bitcoin, those holding for long now are the great benefactors but if you buy this period is more safer.

nice comment and indeed it was being said for the last 12 years that bitcoin is perfect for long term holding and that is what we need now, imagine that the price is just ranging to 28k when the previous ATH is more than double of the price now?

Quote from: BTCBroker2016 on March 26, 2023, 10:22:35 AM

The best formula is diversification and not wasting all your money, keep it 10% of your income

the best strategy we can act for our money to stay strong and safety.

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The best formula is diversification and not wasting all your money, keep it 10% of your income

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Indeed this is a strategy that investors use to invest in Bitcoin, and they are ready to take risks if they experience losses, when the price of Bitcoin is like today we have capital, it never hurts to buy some Bitcoin because big profits are waiting for us, and this will indeed happen and many predict this year Bitcoin will again surprise us all, So make the most of this opportunity.

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We do have many people interested on investing on bitcoin but they don't know how to set a good buying formula for their advantage, hence ut is very important to learn how to trade bitcoin and adopt a means of buying as well if interested on holding it for a long time, we have one of the best formula which is DCA method, it is very good to make use of this while buying because it avoid excessive accumulation in other to reduce the rate to loss percentage after buying.

in addition to that, if your aim is long-term, it means the money that you will be using for investment won't be used anytime soon. because if you will have emergency needs and you need to cash out, there's possibility that you will sell it at a loss, which is lower than your buying price. so it is not about how much you can accumulate when the price is down but you also need to consider your possible immediate needs of funds. because that will affect your decision when it come to selling your coins.

Besides, investing is not just we keep on buying altcoins during the dip but also it matters on the allocated funds. Setting percentage allocation for investment purposes should be a part of our investment plan and we have to keep that limitation. Exceeding is not a good option, however, it can be considered if we still have excess money that can we add to our allocated funds which we think will never affect us even though there is an emergency happening to us. In general, we should have to create a concrete plan that must be followed as possible.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 25, 2023, 05:50:43 PM

We do have many people interested on investing on bitcoin but they don't know how to set a good buying formula for their advantage, hence ut is very important to learn how to trade bitcoin and adopt a means of buying as well if interested on holding it for a long time, we have one of the best formula which is DCA method, it is very good to make use of this while buying because it avoid excessive accumulation in other to reduce the rate to loss percentage after buying.

in addition to that, if your aim is long-term, it means the money that you will be using for investment won't be used anytime soon. because if you will have emergency needs and you need to cash out, there's possibility that you will sell it at a loss, which is lower than your buying price. so it is not about how much you can accumulate when the price is down but you also need to consider your possible immediate needs of funds. because that will affect your decision when it come to selling your coins.

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Quote from: FatFork on March 21, 2023, 02:48:46 PM

OP, it's great that you're interested in investing in bitcoin. However, I would caution against assuming that past performance will necessarily predict future results. While there may be trends in the market, there are always unforeseen factors that can impact the value of cryptocurrencies. It's important to consider the risks and benefits of investing in any asset.

If you're comfortable with the potential risks and feel that bitcoin aligns with your investment strategy, then go for it! But just remember, investing in bitcoin can be a rollercoaster ride.

I second that, it is a rollercoasting on the loose! Merely staking, should not just be your only investment strategy. Have a short-term in that portfolio as well.

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Quote from: Greggry on March 21, 2023, 02:29:35 PM

This period do not encourage trading or investment but at the same time when price is down is good opportunity to buy cheap and when its explode you will gain it. Nothing is lost in bitcoin, those holding for long now are the great benefactors but if you buy this period is more safer.

If I have money now, I would buy half of bitcoin because in next three months it will double the current price. This is real because it always occur this way after 5 years remember in 2011 and 2017 from the market charts and caps. And this year will break more even.

You said it will double the current price with confidence as though it is something that is certain.

Yeah, everybody is expecting another circle of bull run by 2024, which is also the year the next bitcoin halving will be happening, it is almost like a guarantee that in every bitcoin halving year, there must be a bull run, but like I said before, this is not something we should be so certain about, if you are buying bitcoin, do it wisely, remember, only invest with spare money, and one you can afford to lose, just incase things don't happen as predicted.

The halving isn't guarantee for a bull run in the sense that one could exactly predict when the price is about to break out because the date can roughly be anticipated for the halving. It is very possible that the halving is priced in way before the actual halving happens. It is priced in in anticipation of the halving anyway, but who can tell when that moment happened and whether it referred to the halving or not? When Bitcoin was younger, the halving also had much more impact, at least psychologically. In terms of price I would have to look up what the halving's impact was on miners and others. But dropping from 50 to 25 Bitcoin per block is of course different from a drop from 25 to 12.5 and so on. In terms of Bitcoin based inflation rate, the impact declines.

Buying cheap is the best formula is a weird title for the thread Tongue

First, formula for what? Well, everyone can guess that. But then, what is "cheap"? I guess you can only tell retrospectively huh? So how to apply a formula when you don't know the values for your variables?

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