Buying old bitcoin addresses (no airdrops/bch, they can be useless)

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Quote from: Thirdspace on July 09, 2018, 06:55:09 PM

Quote from: operator55 on April 03, 2018, 06:56:37 PM

They havve to be earlier than 04.2013. So like 2013,2012,2011 is fine.

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Escrow for this? You kidding?
Empty address with good history is max $50.
I send cash in front first, so if you have any old address with history just contact me. 0% risk.

At least how many transactions need to be in the address? or total of bitcoin amount transacted?
what defines as good history for this case? would you accept compromised addresses? Cheesy

there are some old address-privkey pairs spread all over the forum and internet,
I'll sell you these if you haven't found them yourself Tongue

10+ btc received/sent < 2013.
No public addresses, as i replied - had people trying to sell me these. I do checkups.

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Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 11:33:10 AM

Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

+1 for using the brain, unlike few others here

This way, but not exactly. Overall assumption is correct.

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About a year ago I saw a post explaining how someone can prove to be an early adopter and how that would help you cash out your btc and receive millions of dollars in a bank account, without any problem. Proving that it is not money laundering

Even an old bitcointalk account would do itin some cases

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Quote from: operator55 on April 03, 2018, 06:56:37 PM

They havve to be earlier than 04.2013. So like 2013,2012,2011 is fine.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Escrow for this? You kidding?
Empty address with good history is max $50.
I send cash in front first, so if you have any old address with history just contact me. 0% risk.

At least how many transactions need to be in the address? or total of bitcoin amount transacted?
what defines as good history for this case? would you accept compromised addresses? Cheesy

there are some old address-privkey pairs spread all over the forum and internet,
I'll sell you these if you haven't found them yourself Tongue

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Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 03:34:47 PM

Quote from: saerlingen on July 08, 2018, 01:55:17 PM

You mentioning wire fraud, but omitting document forgery/impersonation is something i don't get.

It's so funny you think that is what OP is doing. You can google 'document forgery' easily and see what it means, so why would you post something so ignorant?

Wire fraud is a really general term so I guess I'm a little confused how you don't know what that means. Wait why are you arguing with me about something you don't understand?

Impersonation is only illegal if you are impersonating law enforcement. That being said it may lead to committing other crimes, but that's the point I've been making consistently. It MAY but nobody KNOWS, so don't act like he's a scammer just for wanting to buy an old address and look like he was into Bitcoin early.

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Quote from: saerlingen on July 08, 2018, 01:55:17 PM

You mentioning wire fraud, but omitting document forgery/impersonation is something i don't get.

It's so funny you think that is what OP is doing. You can google 'document forgery' easily and see what it means, so why would you post something so ignorant?

Wire fraud is a really general term so I guess I'm a little confused how you don't know what that means. Wait why are you arguing with me about something you don't understand?

Impersonation is only illegal if you are impersonating law enforcement. That being said it may lead to committing other crimes, but that's the point I've been making consistently. It MAY but nobody KNOWS, so don't act like he's a scammer just for wanting to buy an old address and look like he was into Bitcoin early.

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Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 12:01:07 PM

General opinion of what?

That it is a serious indicator of fraud, if a business owner lies/presents "alternative" facts.

Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 12:01:07 PM

The example you cherry picked is completely irrelevant as we're talking about facts vs fiction. Wire fraud vs some guy who wants to look oldschool.

"cherry picked" makes it sound like i chose this case out of several, for its specific benefits to my argument. That is untrue, it is in fact the only such case i know of. Nonetheless, the sentiment was clear.

I did not know of any wire fraud though, i haven't bothered studying the incident.

You mentioning wire fraud, but omitting document forgery/impersonation is something i don't get.

Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 12:01:07 PM

I respect that you think you know everything and that your assumptions are correct, but I'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is that you have absolutely no idea what he wants to do by proving he is oldschool into Bitcoin.

Now who is flaming? Kiss

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Just remembered the arbitao signature campaign was stopped by the manager after users pointed out that old images (big ben not in scaffold) was presented as if they were taken in a period where big ben was scaffolded.

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Quote from: saerlingen on July 08, 2018, 11:36:12 AM

Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 11:33:10 AM

To be honest, even using it to convince somebody of something isn't a big scam if there is no victim. Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

Somebody may want to know why they're using it before selling them an address, that's fine. But to flame this guy for wanting to have an old address to look like an early adopter when there's no proof of scamming seems immature.

You mean just like it went down with Atriz?

A signature campaign turned red as blood, after it was disclosed that raised funds mentioned heavily in marketing, was in fact just made up numbers.

I respect that you are voicing your opinion, but i'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is different from yours.

General opinion of what? That it isn't proved that he's scamming? The example you cherry picked is completely irrelevant as we're talking about facts vs fiction. Wire fraud vs some guy who wants to look oldschool.

I respect that you think you know everything and that your assumptions are correct, but I'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is that you have absolutely no idea what he wants to do by proving he is oldschool into Bitcoin.

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Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 11:33:10 AM

To be honest, even using it to convince somebody of something isn't a big scam if there is no victim. Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

Somebody may want to know why they're using it before selling them an address, that's fine. But to flame this guy for wanting to have an old address to look like an early adopter when there's no proof of scamming seems immature.

You mean just like it went down with Atriz?

A signature campaign turned red as blood, after it was disclosed that raised funds mentioned heavily in marketing, was in fact just made up numbers.

I respect that you are voicing your opinion, but i'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is different from yours.

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To be honest, even using it to convince somebody of something isn't a big scam if there is no victim. Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

Somebody may want to know why they're using it before selling them an address, that's fine. But to flame this guy for wanting to have an old address to look like an early adopter when there's no proof of scamming seems immature.

It's all just speculation so stop flaming the guy.

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Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 11:18:29 AM

Just because they have a red tag for trying to buy an account months ago does't mean they're trying to pull some scam by buying an early address. It's pretty weird but honestly how is an old address going to convince anybody of anything. You could probably mine addresses for a day and hit an old address that was used.

Well, the level of knowledge bitcoin users have varies wildly.

My theory is that OP wants an early address that is not gonna show up in search results so that a potential victim won't be able to easily know that anyone could impersonate the address.

If someone convinced me that they controlled a private key from 2013 or before, I wouldn't think twice about them saying they possess lots of BTC from cheap prices, even if the address does not contain those coins.

Think of the typical (but surprisingly effective) nigerian prince scam.

He has lots of BTC, but for some reason needs you to help him access them or maybe invest for him, and its just pennies for him since he is a millionaire in my mind.

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Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 08, 2018, 11:18:29 AM

Just because they have a red tag for trying to buy an account months ago does't mean they're trying to pull some scam by buying an early address. It's pretty weird but honestly how is an old address going to convince anybody of anything. You could probably mine addresses for a day and hit an old address that was used.

Well you can read the above example about convincing he is an old investor, that old BTC address where he can do transactions can convince anyone. But forget about it, if you think that is a lot weird than this offer itself.

This sounds very strange which is why people here are asking WHY?
There are tons of users here who has abandoned BTC accounts with nothing on it, it may be worthless but a strange offer like this will back away sellers. Why can't you just use the new BTC address, you can hire someone here to create one for you if you like and you may even just pay a $1. Or you can do it yourself for FREE.

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Just because they have a red tag for trying to buy an account months ago does't mean they're trying to pull some scam by buying an early address. It's pretty weird but honestly how is an old address going to convince anybody of anything. You could probably mine addresses for a day and hit an old address that was used.

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It is exactly what you are asking dude.

And it only solidifies suspicions.

I advise you to rephrase your topic appropriately:

paying to impersonate early BTC adopters

and reap the red tags accordingly.

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So why don't you share that fully legitimate reason to buy a compromised (useless) bitcoin address with tx's from years ago?

Because the way i utilize addresses related to my business would be useless. simple.

I don't even know what you are trying to say with that sentence. So no, it is not simple lol.

Do you feel the way your "business" use the addresses that you want to buy, is "useless" for us to know?

It shouldn't be when people voice concerns that you may be attempting to pull off a scam. Then you should share your intentions, to clear up suspicions.

In any case, this is my bitcoin address for payment:

1LXZzPTfRZNBGtndbPxibzSwoVjZRGnGqi

and here is what you are buying:

pub: 1EHNa6Q4Jz2uvNExL497mE43ikXhwF6kZm

priv: 5HpHagT65TZzG1PH3CSu63k8DbpvD8s5ip4nEB3kEsreAnchuDf

I'll settle for 0.002 bitcoin, after all, i did spend a whole 60 seconds on this detective work.

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Oh! So you suddenly consider to think that there might be a legitimate reason to buy old bitcoin address!

What a change of mind. You just mark it with a "lie" keyword.

Anyway this is funny and i dont know why i'm even continuing this conversation. Must be bored on weekend.
I assume most people flaming here dont have anything to offer - based on received messages.

At the end -> Who wants to sell will sell, who doesn't... wont. Simple.

You do realize you have been tagged for this, right?

So why don't you share that fully legitimate reason to buy a compromised (useless) bitcoin address with tx's from years ago?

That is what a legitimate buyer would do after accusations like such.

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Quote from: saerlingen on July 08, 2018, 07:21:22 AM

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I believe that he may use our Bitcoin addresses for some bad activities.

How can you use bitcoin addresses for bad activities? What activities? How can you even be "badly" active with bitcoin addresses? lol.

I think what concerns most people in this thread is, why do i want to buy old empty addresses.
There's no secret money-making schema or anything like this, sorry to dissapoint you.

Answer is: i need to prove to be bitcoin user in early ages in one of cases i'm working on. That's it, the whole mystery.

And let me just highlight:

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There's no secret money-making schema or anything like this, sorry to dissapoint you.

Answer is: i need to prove to be bitcoin user in early ages in one of cases i'm working on. That's it, the whole mystery.

So, why do you need to prove your an early user of Bitcoin?

I cannot think of anything other than making a false claim to swindle money out of someone. So if this is not the case, then please elaborate on what you need it a 'legacy' address for?

There are plenty of exposed addresses you can find privkey for too. Problem is (for you) they are easily identified as compromised, i guess.

As you just chose to ignore above i for one am hoping Mr. TradeFortress takes up that bet. I truly wonder what lie you could tell that would legitimize your request.

🏰 TradeFortress 🏰

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OP is trying to scam someone by pretending they've been in bitcoin since 2011. There is not a single legitimate person to buy an old bitcoin address.

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I believe that he may use our Bitcoin addresses for some bad activities.

How can you use bitcoin addresses for bad activities? What activities? How can you even be "badly" active with bitcoin addresses? lol.

I think what concerns most people in this thread is, why do i want to buy old empty addresses.
There's no secret money-making schema or anything like this, sorry to dissapoint you.

Answer is: i need to prove to be bitcoin user in early ages in one of cases i'm working on. That's it, the whole mystery.

And let me just highlight:

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There's no secret money-making schema or anything like this, sorry to dissapoint you.

Answer is: i need to prove to be bitcoin user in early ages in one of cases i'm working on. That's it, the whole mystery.

So, why do you need to prove your an early user of Bitcoin?

I cannot think of anything other than making a false claim to swindle money out of someone. So if this is not the case, then please elaborate on what you need it a 'legacy' address for?

There are plenty of exposed addresses you can find privkey for too. Problem is (for you) they are easily identified as compromised, i guess.

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