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Topic: (By interest) Concept of high security paper wallet hologram sticker (Read 2289 times)

legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
update, digital preview of my first universal paper wallets' security sticker is approaching soon, my design is being enhanced for actual holograms, stay tuned.
spoiler: no denomination unit on the first design but "500".

if the preview is ready, then i will upload on the op.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
Look, how about you make a thread where people could buy them directly and make IRL tests, potentials investors will hard a hard copy and they can back you up.

They will pay for the production and shipping, you will not have to spend / waste money.


i am not asking any investors until i am surely ready, i don't want investors loathed the time. plus designing the hologram and paper arts are gonna be consuming major amount of memory spaces and the artwork skills. i don't have a proper PC that can support 2~3 GBs of data in an image that will be used on the hologram design. right now this is but a dream yet i don't wanna ask any investors as told because i am not that reliable by evidence. i can create a preview but i don't sure how many people is gripping on.



fact: with all the required funds to begin the production, it is a $10.000 question.  Undecided
btw i threw up the poll and let's see how many possible buyers i can get.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 253
Look, how about you make a thread where people could buy them directly and make IRL tests, potentials investors will hard a hard copy and they can back you up.

They will pay for the production and shipping, you will not have to spend / waste money.

legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
Share resources if you have them, that's why were here  Grin

Custom paper seal presses can be ordered from here:
http://www.thestampmaker.com/embossers.aspx

I'm looking for a site where you can customize security paper online... most places you have to "call them" or fill out a call-me-back form. :/
good idea! will drop that link to my bookmark when i begin to source the material to develop my paper wallet and/or the holograms, it would be when pigs fly to make a top notch if the artwork would not be great.

security paper? no. but hologram? if you understand Chinese please go to www.gzlaser.com , as that manufacturer makes the holograms most of you guys haven't seen before. (i will use that company as they can let the customized pattern in)
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1057
SpacePirate.io
Share resources if you have them, that's why were here  Grin

Custom paper seal presses can be ordered from here:
http://www.thestampmaker.com/embossers.aspx

I'm looking for a site where you can customize security paper online... most places you have to "call them" or fill out a call-me-back form. :/
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
this will be more secure than paper money  Grin
lmao, i would wish to! just like what the passports will do in their print.

Seems like a cool idea ill keep this on my watch list.
Smiley

Everything says out of stock on the papersafe site.

If anyone is looking for custom hologram stickers, I used these guys about a year ago to do a 100 custom stickers for under $20:
http://www.labelogixusa.com/page2/customprintedlabels.html


if you have a higher budget, there are similar sticker manufacturers with a better security level, its quantity (not lying) and the quality could be better than the typical top notch.
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
Seems like a cool idea ill keep this on my watch list.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1057
SpacePirate.io
Everything says out of stock on the papersafe site.

If anyone is looking for custom hologram stickers, I used these guys about a year ago to do a 100 custom stickers for under $20:
http://www.labelogixusa.com/page2/customprintedlabels.html
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 658
rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
I would definitely be interested in secure hologram stickers, or something similar. Paper wallets are my favorite way to store bitcoin.

Check out

PaperSafe.org
Wow, those look pretty impressive. It looks like they're all sold out though, bummer.
BG4
legendary
Activity: 1006
Merit: 1024
PaperSafe
I would definitely be interested in secure hologram stickers, or something similar. Paper wallets are my favorite way to store bitcoin.

Check out

PaperSafe.org
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 658
rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
I would definitely be interested in secure hologram stickers, or something similar. Paper wallets are my favorite way to store bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 250
this will be more secure than paper money  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
after all, this kind of stickers, if completed, are universal. to be explicit (you guys normally write it as 'clear'), no keys that is required to import such wallet is printed, instead with a serial code. as of this post is posted, i am unable to draw my draft and crashed several of times in my PC, i am waiting for a certain computer that won't crash about.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
So just to make sure I understand this correctly, the user creates the paper wallet with a pass phrase and then you only print the pass phrase for them in a hologram? Do they add the Bitcoin Address and the Private key later, when they receive the note?

That would be about the only way, I would be doing this. I will never surrender the private key to anyone to create it for me. ^hmmmmm^
... i mean, if that printer is trusted, i will get them a quote about the wallet data if needed. i will get manufacturer to print passphrase under the hologram only, not the key (i won't know the public or private key at all). i can send to them as soon as i have received the batch. they complete the note using the hologram received, with the password in it.
or people can do it all themselves with that hologram. just as long as it is safe from fraud.
legendary
Activity: 3542
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
So just to make sure I understand this correctly, the user creates the paper wallet with a pass phrase and then you only print the pass phrase for them in a hologram? Do they add the Bitcoin Address and the Private key later, when they receive the note?

That would be about the only way, I would be doing this. I will never surrender the private key to anyone to create it for me. ^hmmmmm^
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.

If you have very little to buy a Satoshi Note , How is it going to be affordable for you to pay for holograms,

The holograms that I use are good quality signature secure holograms. They are clear with a slight tint to them,
They are there to protect the Scratch off that is placed over the Password..it is the Scratch off that is securing the password
The Hologram is placed over the scratch off, and printed over with the graphics you see. The bar code around the outside
is there for tamper evident , if someone tried to lift the hologram, also The paper will turn a color with solvents and alcohol , so chemical
peeling is stopped...

I picked this hologram because It was clear, can be printed on so I can change the graphics as my designs change...

The Idea with a hologram is that they are not easy to duplicate, Having a very good quality hologram makes no sense for a DIY
Paper Wallet. PaperSafe were designed with the idea that Bitcoins could be Traded Off Chain...as long as the Tamper Evident hologram is intact
then the coins are secure.....BUT , in the end..

PaperSafe Is just very secure ART

BG4
PaperSafe.org
i mean i have little immediate funds to buy a note.

though, i wonder how to make a trustless legit notes, indeed like what you have stated, i have this idea as well inspired by banknotes. if high security holograms don't make sense w/ DIY, then for me it is a bit wrong:
hologram itself, if it is thin enough, is already tamper evident, by picking out of that, the position of where the sticker is picked up might be messed up, leading traces on it. or you can print a logo on both paper layer and the holographic layer - what the banknotes have; it must be accurate to restick on.

by the way i wanna know the method to figure out if the password is securely legit, like dual-channel diagram.
maybe i can give you the sample if i bought them, and compare using it. Huh

holograms are the core of security documents, after all.
BG4
legendary
Activity: 1006
Merit: 1024
PaperSafe
I see you have taken interest in my work.

 First off... It is not just the hologram that is securing PaperSafe keys.
 Just because the hologram is expensive doesn't make it any more secure.

 Second. is trust...You cant just print a paper wallet and expect people to want to buy it...
 I already went down that road.  when its all said and done...
 PaperSafe Satoshi Notes are nothing more than... ARTWORK...

 It took me over 2 years getting to my first printed series that was offered on the forum...
 So don't be in a hurry, take your time and do research and lots of testing...
 Get it right the first time.. also I am happy to answer any questions you may have.

 One last thing......Get yourself a PaperSafe Satoshi Note .....good luck

BG4
PaperSafe.org


hi BG4, thanks to be here to asnwer my question.
first of all,  Cry i have little to buy a satoshi note.
second, indeed i mean what i am planning to create does not have any keys printed on, well it is a challenge to make it trustless and evidently legit. third, is the hologram solely designed by yourself or a related team? fine but it is important as i believe the password covered by hologram decides the validity of the wallet, any kind of trace(s) differs its trust. Huh ok the last thing is, i am just supplying holographic stickers, so i am when pigs fly to own any keys with funds by other people. Smiley
edit: i will buy one if you can supply internationally, i am exercising my artwork in my hologram.

If you have very little to buy a Satoshi Note , How is it going to be affordable for you to pay for holograms,

The holograms that I use are good quality signature secure holograms. They are clear with a slight tint to them,
They are there to protect the Scratch off that is placed over the Password..it is the Scratch off that is securing the password
The Hologram is placed over the scratch off, and printed over with the graphics you see. The bar code around the outside
is there for tamper evident , if someone tried to lift the hologram, also The paper will turn a color with solvents and alcohol , so chemical
peeling is stopped...

I picked this hologram because It was clear, can be printed on so I can change the graphics as my designs change...

The Idea with a hologram is that they are not easy to duplicate, Having a very good quality hologram makes no sense for a DIY
Paper Wallet. PaperSafe were designed with the idea that Bitcoins could be Traded Off Chain...as long as the Tamper Evident hologram is intact
then the coins are secure.....BUT , in the end..

PaperSafe Is just very secure ART

BG4
PaperSafe.org
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
I see you have taken interest in my work.

 First off... It is not just the hologram that is securing PaperSafe keys.
 Just because the hologram is expensive doesn't make it any more secure.

 Second. is trust...You cant just print a paper wallet and expect people to want to buy it...
 I already went down that road.  when its all said and done...
 PaperSafe Satoshi Notes are nothing more than... ARTWORK...

 It took me over 2 years getting to my first printed series that was offered on the forum...
 So don't be in a hurry, take your time and do research and lots of testing...
 Get it right the first time.. also I am happy to answer any questions you may have.

 One last thing......Get yourself a PaperSafe Satoshi Note .....good luck

BG4
PaperSafe.org


hi BG4, thanks to be here to asnwer my question.
first of all,  Cry i have little to buy a satoshi note.
second, indeed i mean what i am planning to create does not have any keys printed on, well it is a challenge to make it trustless and evidently legit. third, is the hologram solely designed by yourself or a related team? fine but it is important as i believe the password covered by hologram decides the validity of the wallet, any kind of trace(s) differs its trust. Huh ok the last thing is, i am just supplying holographic stickers, so i am when pigs fly to own any keys with funds by other people. Smiley
edit: i will buy one if you can supply internationally, i am exercising my artwork in my hologram.
BG4
legendary
Activity: 1006
Merit: 1024
PaperSafe
I see you have taken interest in my work.

 First off... It is not just the hologram that is securing PaperSafe keys.
 Just because the hologram is expensive doesn't make it any more secure.

 Second. is trust...You cant just print a paper wallet and expect people to want to buy it...
 I already went down that road.  when its all said and done...
 PaperSafe Satoshi Notes are nothing more then... ARTWORK...

 It took me over 2 years getting to my first printed series that was offered on the forum...
 So don't be in a hurry, take your time and do research and lots of testing...
 Get it right the first time.. also I am happy to answer any questions you may have.

 One last thing......Get yourself a PaperSafe Satoshi Note .....good luck

BG4
PaperSafe.org

legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
the question is, in a nutshell: if i created a security hologram for paper wallets, how many people would use that or would you get to use? feel free to give opinion and/or anything else. don't expect too major on this because this might not yet be done until late 2016.
Something like this: https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/ ?


like that sticker, but is not a regular stock at all, instead it will be completely customised and higher security like banknotes.
sourced from www.papersafe.org , look at the hologram covered by 'secure' word

similar to that, but more complicated one as what i am planning to design.
This sounds quite interesting!
Have you considered to also design DIY holograms for physical coins (if that is even possible)? IMHO there is a greater demand than for stickers on paperwallets.
physical coins are not in my plan because i am not greatly trusted and i don't grauantee the safety of wallet by 100%, that's why i will make it DIY.
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