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movellan

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Quote from: ahmed_bodi on September 17, 2013, 10:48:47 AM

why do you seem to think that i am running a scheme? also why do u seem to think that it will affect bytecoin negatively?

meta.p02 summarized it nicely in his post a few above this one. Your proposal makes BTE just another "extra profit" in merged mining for BTC.

As for being a scheme, you have claimed altruistic motives for your proposal, claiming it will be good for the future of Bytecoin. I have no such motives; like many others I mine BTE in the hope of future profits, and IMO the best path for this would be to leave the coin run it's course. What would have happened to BTC if someone forced a fork early on? Think we would have $140 BTC now?

movellan

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Quote from: meta.p02 on September 17, 2013, 09:49:07 AM

Let me ask you: What do you want Bytecoin to be? Making this coin merge-mined will indeed stabilise the coin and revive it. But what exactly will this achieve? It will make Bytecoin just another merge-mined coin, a row in the growing list of coins merge-mined by Bitparking ("Bytecoin - 0.000xxxxx"). Bytecoin will become just another tool to make extra money while mining Bitcoin - see Ixcoin for an example. For a coin to be truly alive it must have a community, not just a stable hashrate.

Just some thoughts to consider.

Then again, it's your fork, so do whatever you want. Just be aware that whatever you are doing will cause the current miners to be outvoted about 100:1 or more with no defence.

Spot on. Thanks for your concise summary of the consequences of forking the current blockchain.

ahmed_bodi

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why do you seem to think that i am running a scheme? also why do u seem to think that it will affect bytecoin negatively?

movellan

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Quote from: coretechs on September 17, 2013, 08:12:26 AM

I support the merged-mining additions, but I think the retarget and anything else should be left untouched. IMHO the focus should be on keeping the codebase in sync with current bitcoin release.

That won't happen with the merged-mining setup ahmed_bodi and his confederates are proposing. As I understand it, the current codebase (blockchain) MUST be forked in order for the scheme to work. As meta.P02 says above, the result of this will be a lock-out of current conventional BTE miners unless they agree to use ahmed_bodi's corrupted client software. I plan to stay with the current bitcoin-qt and encourage others to do the same.

ahmed_bodi

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I disagree. With the full merged mining setup I'll be providing there will be no reason for any existing miners to use bitparking. Intact id highly recommend against it. Once we achieve a stable hashrate with on target blocks therell be a number of services and a community for bytecoin the first service will be a betting site. Bytecoin should also be accepted by the server sides web design co. A site for developers and customers to integrate may also be coming soon. During the process the bytecoin website, forum faucet an pool will be created

meta.p02

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Let me ask you: What do you want Bytecoin to be? Making this coin merge-mined will indeed stabilise the coin and revive it. But what exactly will this achieve? It will make Bytecoin just another merge-mined coin, a row in the growing list of coins merge-mined by Bitparking ("Bytecoin - 0.000xxxxx"). Bytecoin will become just another tool to make extra money while mining Bitcoin - see Ixcoin for an example. For a coin to be truly alive it must have a community, not just a stable hashrate.

Just some thoughts to consider.

Then again, it's your fork, so do whatever you want. Just be aware that whatever you are doing will cause the current miners to be outvoted about 100:1 or more with no defence.

ahmed_bodi

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I've come to the final conclusion that I will only change merged mining and implement the latest bitcoin coinbase. I will also be adding several other additions such as changing the alert keys so I can tell users to update to the latest client for new checkpoints. I now would like a list of all people who would want a solo merged mining pool with a web fro tend. And if there is anyone else interested in helping out

coretechs

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I support the merged-mining additions, but I think the retarget and anything else should be left untouched. IMHO the focus should be on keeping the codebase in sync with current bitcoin release.

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Quote from: ahmed_bodi on September 16, 2013, 06:20:46 PM

^that

thats exactly what i've been trying to say all along. everyone seems to be misunderstanding me Sad

oh yea thats nbd and probably a pretty good idea.

ASICSRUS

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Quote from: ahmed_bodi on September 16, 2013, 07:51:33 PM

Your reading too deep into it if you search through my old posts ull see i asked profmac for his eloipool setup. Well i never go it so created my own. Now ill be distribiting a vm or a github repo with all the scripts etc needed to make a merged mining solo pool automatically. So that way solo miners dont lose out

it's going up/\in price let it run when it starts going down then do something!;-)LOL j/k!haha

cshelswell

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ah awesome thanks - that helps

movellan

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Quote from: cshelswell on September 16, 2013, 07:55:23 PM

anyone else having trouble getting the wallet to sync? I was going to do a bit of solo mining but it's permanently out of sync.

Cheers

Even though the green check mark is not present, mouse over it's usual spot and check the block number against the latest block on bte.cryptocoinexplorer.com.
If they agree, your wallet's in sync.

cshelswell

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anyone else having trouble getting the wallet to sync? I was going to do a bit of solo mining but it's permanently out of sync.

Cheers

ahmed_bodi

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Your reading too deep into it if you search through my old posts ull see i asked profmac for his eloipool setup. Well i never go it so created my own. Now ill be distribiting a vm or a github repo with all the scripts etc needed to make a merged mining solo pool automatically. So that way solo miners dont lose out

movellan

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Quote from: RoadTrain on September 16, 2013, 06:31:32 PM

If anyone doubts about merged mining, look at TRC. It's constantly raped by difficulty swings.
Either the merged mining should come, or difficulty retargeting has to be changed. The first is better IMO cause it provides a lot of additional hashrate.

Yes, a LOT of additional hashrate thereby crowding out the conventional solo miners who have been supporting BTC by using low and moderate hashrates to keep the coin going. Ever since some jerk pointed a big ASIC or farm at BTC and jacked the diff up to it's present rate and then walked away, they have been mining and keeping the coin alive. Now ahmed_bodi and his crowd want to just push them aside.

Ahmed, what's your advice to solo miners if you get your patch working and listed on Bitparking? I'd image it goes something like, "Better join Bitparking because from now on it's my way or the highway."

I smell some kind of sweet deal between the "forking" promoters. Two months ago doublec wanted 50 BTC to make this thing happen. Now all of a sudden he appears quite happy to let ahmed do it all and promote the forked BTC on Bitparking without any compensation. Hmmmmmm........

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Quote from: ASICSRUS on September 16, 2013, 06:43:13 PM

if it aint broke dont fix it!~up %50 in one day or so just WILD!!!:o >>
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/49

Thats what news about development work does Tongue

its till not going to fix the problems with the coin tho Sad

although i wish it did cause im sick of arguing when no one else is making an attempt

ahmed_bodi

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Quote from: RoadTrain on September 16, 2013, 06:31:32 PM

If anyone doubts about merged mining, look at TRC. It's constantly raped by difficulty swings.
Either the merged mining should come, or difficulty retargeting has to be changed. The first is better IMO cause it provides a lot of additional hashrate.

THANK YOU!! Atleast someone else who agrees with me. All the Major Pool OP's and developers have agree on it. its people who haven't attempted to resolve the issues that are complaining.

ASICSRUS

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if it aint broke dont fix it!~up %50 in one day or so just WILD!!!:o >>
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/49

RoadTrain

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If anyone doubts about merged mining, look at TRC. It's constantly raped by difficulty swings.
Either the merged mining should come, or difficulty retargeting has to be changed. The first is better IMO cause it provides a lot of additional hashrate.

ahmed_bodi

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^that

thats exactly what i've been trying to say all along. everyone seems to be misunderstanding me Sad

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