You can't have capitalism without capital. and since the 1970s the City of London bankers have been removing capital, and taking control of assets all over the world. Fractional reserve banking, and the removal of debt restriction have caused massive inflation in asset values. The sale of government assets to the CoL trusts held in tax havens has made it harder for local authorities to continue to provide subsidised services.
I wouldn't fancy living in a car, but a custom modified large van does have a lot of appeal for me at the moment. It would be a better idea for students than the converted sea containers that are on the increase in many areas.
Topic: California attempts to solve student housing crisis with-- students in cars? (Read 457 times)
February 21, 2019, 06:03:20 AM
February 21, 2019, 05:39:52 AM
So now you are against private colleges?
Let's same I'm 100% against any educational institution owned by private individuals yup.
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Except for a select few situations, I'm unable to connect any dots between capitalism and colleges. You are showing complete ignorance of how these systems work in the West.
Ok I'll break it down for you:
With private schooling, ability to enter a school depends first on your ability to afford this school. Hence it depends on your parents wealth which is not related to your skills and abilities at all. Hence in private schooling, next generation receives an education depending not on their abilities but on unrelated factors (wealth).
It means that in the end, private schooling is not efficient in a meritocratic aspect and will produce a generation where education is not given towards the best able but the more wealthy.
If you don't see the link between capitalism and the choice for a private school to take a rich bad student rather than a good poor student, I can't really do anything for you.
And this is to add towards the fact that without help from the state poor people won't even be able to afford the cost of being a student (food, house, transports...).
February 20, 2019, 08:55:31 PM
....you WILL have schools poor students can't afford to go. yes or no?
We ALWAYS HAVE HAD such schools...I recall considering Harvard and rejecting making an app because of the cost.
Cool.
So you're ok for a system where your education don't depend on your abilities but on your parents wealth.
Please tell me again how capitalism is great at making the most out of human abilities?
So now you are against private colleges?
Except for a select few situations, I'm unable to connect any dots between capitalism and colleges. You are showing complete ignorance of how these systems work in the West.
February 20, 2019, 05:29:23 AM
....you WILL have schools poor students can't afford to go. yes or no?
We ALWAYS HAVE HAD such schools...I recall considering Harvard and rejecting making an app because of the cost.
Cool.
So you're ok for a system where your education don't depend on your abilities but on your parents wealth.
Please tell me again how capitalism is great at making the most out of human abilities?
February 19, 2019, 09:43:15 PM
....you WILL have schools poor students can't afford to go. yes or no?
We ALWAYS HAVE HAD such schools...I recall considering Harvard and rejecting making an app because of the cost.
Numerous other schools, too. And housing cost was a big part of it.
duh....
The real problems with colleges are quite different than this piece of fake news, incidentally. It has to do with the way total college costs have zoomed out of sight, while, our friends in government made sure that the students could go on into debt accordingly. Feeding the monster. And the unlimited debt has encouraged colleges to increase costs.
February 19, 2019, 08:33:54 PM
....you WILL have schools poor students can't afford to go. yes or no?
We ALWAYS HAVE HAD such schools...I recall considering Harvard and rejecting making an app because of the cost.
Numerous other schools, too. And housing cost was a big part of it.
duh....
The real problems with colleges are quite different than this piece of fake news, incidentally. It has to do with the way total college costs have zoomed out of sight, while, our friends in government made sure that the students could go on into debt accordingly. Feeding the monster. And the unlimited debt has encouraged colleges to increase costs.
February 19, 2019, 01:42:32 PM
^^^ ... usually because they can't afford the drugs they are using. But a lot of the time government helps them with welfare checks.
February 19, 2019, 01:21:06 PM
....you WILL have schools poor students can't afford to go. yes or no?
We ALWAYS HAVE HAD such schools...I recall considering Harvard and rejecting making an app because of the cost.
Numerous other schools, too. And housing cost was a big part of it.
duh....
The real problems with colleges are quite different than this piece of fake news, incidentally. It has to do with the way total college costs have zoomed out of sight, while, our friends in government made sure that the students could go on into debt accordingly. Feeding the monster. And the unlimited debt has encouraged colleges to increase costs.
February 19, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
America shows them a much developed country to the outside world. Within the nation they've got lots and lots of issues. Homeless in America keeps on increasing with more and more people on the streets with temporary tents. As a part students have now begun to lead their lives on cars. The reason for the crisis is the increased housing rents that low salaried users can't afford.
February 19, 2019, 12:04:27 PM
And all those whining students that think they deserve to live in Hollywood!
You kind of avoided the yes or no question here:
You want to argue that the students have "a right" to live in Hollywood?
What's so hard to understand? Leave the market alone without any government intereference and you WILL have schools poor students can't afford to go. yes or no? February 19, 2019, 08:24:04 AM
....USC is in south los angeles "south central" and that "ghetto" still costs well over 1100 for a 1 bedroom. ....
How about that. Ghettos are getting expensive too!And all those whining students that think they deserve to live in Hollywood!
....somehow I can't buy this victim mentality, sorry....
February 19, 2019, 01:24:53 AM
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Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
No nobody is saying "any school in a big city."Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
Yes you are...
When saying "don't do anything and just let the market do" you're simply saying "poor students will go to schools in poor areas".
In short you're saying that really poor students will never go to big city schools.
The rest only depends on what exactly you say with "poor" and "big city" but the idea is the same.
Los Angeles.
UCLA is over by Hollywood.
USC is right in the ghetto.
U of LA is downtown.
You want to argue that the students have "a right" to live in Hollywood?
UCLA is in westwood. USC is in south los angeles "south central" and that "ghetto" still costs well over 1100 for a 1 bedroom.
The point is, it doesn't matter which part of the city you go to, broke college students cannot afford to live anywhere within driving distance of SF, Los Angeles, or any major city.
I want to argue that students have a right to live near whatever school they are attending.
February 18, 2019, 08:37:05 AM
You want to argue that the students have "a right" to live in Hollywood?
What's so hard to understand? Leave the market alone without any government intereference and you WILL have schools poor students can't afford to go. yes or no? February 18, 2019, 08:27:38 AM
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Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
No nobody is saying "any school in a big city."Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
Yes you are...
When saying "don't do anything and just let the market do" you're simply saying "poor students will go to schools in poor areas".
In short you're saying that really poor students will never go to big city schools.
The rest only depends on what exactly you say with "poor" and "big city" but the idea is the same.
Los Angeles.
UCLA is over by Hollywood.
USC is right in the ghetto.
U of LA is downtown.
You want to argue that the students have "a right" to live in Hollywood?
February 18, 2019, 06:14:03 AM
american capitalists have become just a bunch of losers and scammers that try to scam foreigners mexicans or other hard working people, crushing down every resistance with "political correctness"
if the germans and the japanese and later the chinese wouldnt have constantly funded their debt, and the arabs pay for their usd with oil
they would have never become as influential as they are now.
i am affraid that
everyone that trusts those urban shitcoin offerings will end up being their idiot.
and i seriously hate using that term "shitcoin" its to close assosiated with the bitcoin pow cultists
if the germans and the japanese and later the chinese wouldnt have constantly funded their debt, and the arabs pay for their usd with oil
they would have never become as influential as they are now.
i am affraid that
everyone that trusts those urban shitcoin offerings will end up being their idiot.
and i seriously hate using that term "shitcoin" its to close assosiated with the bitcoin pow cultists
February 18, 2019, 05:53:12 AM
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Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
No nobody is saying "any school in a big city."Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
Yes you are...
When saying "don't do anything and just let the market do" you're simply saying "poor students will go to schools in poor areas".
In short you're saying that really poor students will never go to big city schools.
The rest only depends on what exactly you say with "poor" and "big city" but the idea is the same.
February 17, 2019, 05:18:43 PM
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Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
No nobody is saying "any school in a big city."Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
February 17, 2019, 04:37:20 PM
Again, so what? The students are not required to go to that college. They have freedom of choice.
Yeah exactly. I mean who cares about poors not being able to chose their college adequatly to their skills and potential but adequatly to their geographical location because they're unable to pay a rent?
Let the poor go to the colleges close to their area. Which will be the worst possible colleges as they're colleges close to poor areas.
So poors will go to shit college and rich to the best college.
It seems like a pretty fair deal to me. They have "freedom of choice".
No, that's not what is happening. In the USA west coast some areas are way overpriced, largely because of pricing being bid up from foreign investors. Areas of and around Los Angeles, Santa Barbara and San Francisco. There are others, of course.
But there are many reasonably priced and low priced areas, great places to live, with low crime rates. Basically it's ONLY a few select areas that have the problem of the title of this thread.
It might be argued that someone in CA going to Oklahoma for college would be a victim because he would have to pay higher out of state tuition. But there are many areas in CA that are reasonably priced. It's a big state.
Well cost aside, its still an equity issue. You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
February 15, 2019, 09:51:33 PM
Again, so what? The students are not required to go to that college. They have freedom of choice.
Yeah exactly. I mean who cares about poors not being able to chose their college adequatly to their skills and potential but adequatly to their geographical location because they're unable to pay a rent?
Let the poor go to the colleges close to their area. Which will be the worst possible colleges as they're colleges close to poor areas.
So poors will go to shit college and rich to the best college.
It seems like a pretty fair deal to me. They have "freedom of choice".
No, that's not what is happening. In the USA west coast some areas are way overpriced, largely because of pricing being bid up from foreign investors. Areas of and around Los Angeles, Santa Barbara and San Francisco. There are others, of course.
But there are many reasonably priced and low priced areas, great places to live, with low crime rates. Basically it's ONLY a few select areas that have the problem of the title of this thread.
It might be argued that someone in CA going to Oklahoma for college would be a victim because he would have to pay higher out of state tuition. But there are many areas in CA that are reasonably priced. It's a big state.
February 15, 2019, 08:47:52 AM
Again, so what? The students are not required to go to that college. They have freedom of choice.
Yeah exactly. I mean who cares about poors not being able to chose their college adequatly to their skills and potential but adequatly to their geographical location because they're unable to pay a rent?
Let the poor go to the colleges close to their area. Which will be the worst possible colleges as they're colleges close to poor areas.
So poors will go to shit college and rich to the best college.
It seems like a pretty fair deal to me. They have "freedom of choice".
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