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sr. member
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let me rephrase that with more elaboration

let's say that btc on monday is $650, and a bitcoin club member (Barry) believe it should be valued at $675 by Wednesday.  It is up to Barry to educate, defend, or argue his case for the club to adopt his recommendation.  Barry is likely to point to charts history, media, btc community sentiment, and perhaps other technical or conditional reasons for the recommendation, but when he's done he will essentially ask the club to buy Btc given certain specifications for purchase.   That recommendation (with list of particulars) will be presented to the club for a majority vote, if the club votes yes, then as a club they do as the recommendation advises, if they vote no then the recommendation is dead.

so the vote is on what barry is presenting, which includes a cryptocurrency, a price, a date, a buy/sell directive, etc ... everything so that each member could properly analyze the recommendation and vote accordingly.
It's simple called a price-gouging. If you are interested in this shady business just switch to altcoins, there are many pump and/or dump action similar to your plan.
sr. member
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  For example, you argue that btc should go to $675 on wednesday, you provide convincing evidence to that effect, the recommendation is brought to a vote, if the majority approve; as a club we do what you recommend.   

what kind of nonsense is this?  no one can vote on the price! (except by buying and selling in the market.)
Hahaha my first question which i ask myself. What kind of nonsense is this? Grin

OP: You started this thread to promo your other thread?
Good luck finding "The Smartest Bitcoin Pros In The World"
My second matter, who gonna promote a thread with another thread in the same forum?  Roll Eyes
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there is no way that a group of 20+ people would have voted "yes" to the motion

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Had there been a vote of 20 people;  I  bet the right speaker could have swayed a plurality one direction or the other -- towards either hasty action resulting in a loss or missed opportunity, or hesitant failure to act resulting in a loss or missed opportunity.

Now it depends on the audience; if  you have 20 people who are inherently more risk-averse than ambitious or put suggestions through a highly detailed, highly technical detailed tests,   then  err in the opposite direction is likely.

The ability to persuade 20 people of something, does not necessarily align with that thing being correct, reliable, or valid.
hero member
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 For example, you argue that btc should go to $675 on wednesday, you provide convincing evidence to that effect, the recommendation is brought to a vote, if the majority approve; as a club we do what you recommend.  

what kind of nonsense is this?  no one can vote on the price! (except by buying and selling in the market.)


let me rephrase that with more elaboration

let's say that btc on monday is $650, and a bitcoin club member (Barry) believe it should be valued at $675 by Wednesday.  It is up to Barry to educate, defend, or argue his case for the club to adopt his recommendation.  Barry is likely to point to charts history, media, btc community sentiment, and perhaps other technical or conditional reasons for the recommendation, but when he's done he will essentially ask the club to buy Btc given certain specifications for purchase.   That recommendation (with list of particulars) will be presented to the club for a majority vote, if the club votes yes, then as a club they do as the recommendation advises, if they vote no then the recommendation is dead.

so the vote is on what barry is presenting, which includes a cryptocurrency, a price, a date, a buy/sell directive, etc ... everything so that each member could properly analyze the recommendation and vote accordingly.



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from: Bit_Happy on Today at 09:35:04 PM
OP: You started this thread to promo your other thread?
Good luck finding "The Smartest Bitcoin Pros In The World"

This thread serves multiple purposes,

1) to discussion the notion about the formation of a speculator's Bitcoin club
2) to find the people who know Bitcoin on many levels and want to share their knowledge
3) invite people btc speculators vote their interests

given the responses, it also serves  

4) as a punching bag so that people can vent  



What occurred at Mt Gox was, in my opinion a direct result of unreasonable individualism, there is no way that a group of 20+ people would have voted "yes" to the motion:
'buy btc at Mt Gox' after the withdrawal freeze, it it was reasonably argued (pro and con), then rationally debated.   Because group think works, particularly when there are more than 20 people in the group, the group has diverse interests, and the individuals in the group can vote freely.  




legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
OP: You started this thread to promo your other thread?
Good luck finding "The Smartest Bitcoin Pros In The World"
hero member
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I'm not really a fan of any group that hopes to manipulate the price.

I realize it may happen when Wall Street and other crooks get involved.

But why would it be something we'd want to encourage.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding the OP.

I think a better group would be a collection of highly intelligent and articulate individuals who can help sway public opinion.  By doing things such as swamping news article (comments section) with correct information, rebuttals, etc to help educate the public properly.  Or people with influence who can swing a $100,000 paper wallet campaign, funding 50,000 paper wallets with $2.00 each, and handing them out to the general public.

Lets do things that grow the community. Speed up adoption.  Change the perception of Bitcoin from fraud and theft to humanitarian aid, and all it does to benefit humanity. Use your power for good.  There's enough abuse of power in the Bitcoin scene.  The very thing we're trying to get away from.

-B-

great idea, want people to work on it, want people to consider it seriously, want it funded?  What do you do?

good ideas abound around worldwide however there are abundance of naysayers all to willing to beat down any semblance of a good ideas see above posts.

have you thought about starting a thread on any of your ideas? 

the prejudice that btc experiences from the wider community is enormous, so I could understand the 'hurt people, hurt people' syndrome but I'm here to remind you that not everyone think alike, and it often takes effort to find like-minded individuals even for things that make the most sense.

The opening post was all about good, yet it seems to have attracted high levels of negativity in terms of forum responses, yet produced positive responses to the target link.  To me that indicates the target audience is getting the messages but is not willing to fight the causeless battle in this thread. 



 

legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
  For example, you argue that btc should go to $675 on wednesday, you provide convincing evidence to that effect, the recommendation is brought to a vote, if the majority approve; as a club we do what you recommend.   

what kind of nonsense is this?  no one can vote on the price! (except by buying and selling in the market.)
hero member
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I'm not really a fan of any group that hopes to manipulate the price.

I realize it may happen when Wall Street and other crooks get involved.

But why would it be something we'd want to encourage.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding the OP.

I think a better group would be a collection of highly intelligent and articulate individuals who can help sway public opinion.  By doing things such as swamping news article (comments section) with correct information, rebuttals, etc to help educate the public properly.  Or people with influence who can swing a $100,000 paper wallet campaign, funding 50,000 paper wallets with $2.00 each, and handing them out to the general public.

Lets do things that grow the community. Speed up adoption.  Change the perception of Bitcoin from fraud and theft to humanitarian aid, and all it does to benefit humanity. Use your power for good.  There's enough abuse of power in the Bitcoin scene.  The very thing we're trying to get away from.

-B-
legendary
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How would you like to magnify your wealth, influence, and prestige?

Up for consideration is discussion about the formation of a Bitcoin club, where you WILL be respected and regarded for your btc acumen, where you could share btc strategies and tactics, and where you could make a recommendation have it acknowledged and executed in a group action.   For example, you argue that btc should go to $675 on wednesday, you provide convincing evidence to that effect, the recommendation is brought to a vote, if the majority approve; as a club we do what you recommend.  

This wouldn't be a club that meets once a month at the local library, but a club in a perpetual meeting, taking concerted action whenever justified; where it's enjoyable, empowering, and enriching to be right

We want YOU!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-speculators-club-516371


pump and dump groups are OK but if the OP wants to form a group, then he obviously dos not have the funds himself to cause a price change, this needing others to pay in. so i certainly wont risk my funds with such a person.
hero member
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How would you like to magnify your wealth, influence, and prestige?

Up for consideration is discussion about the formation of a Bitcoin club, where you WILL be respected and regarded for your btc acumen, where you could share btc strategies and tactics, and where you could make a recommendation have it acknowledged and executed in a group action.   For example, you argue that btc should go to $675 on wednesday, you provide convincing evidence to that effect, the recommendation is brought to a vote, if the majority approve; as a club we do what you recommend.  

This wouldn't be a club that meets once a month at the local library, but a club in a perpetual meeting, taking concerted action whenever justified; where it's enjoyable, empowering, and enriching to be right

We want YOU!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-speculators-club-516371



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