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Topic: Calling out Atheists - page 2. (Read 387 times)

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February 01, 2019, 09:05:39 PM
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That is a good question.

I personally don't know and can't answer that.

We have a choice of A is A (the universe has always been there).

Or A came from nothing. Both options are ... impossible for me to get my mind around.

I think that A coming from nothing is an impossibility so I lean to the universe has always been there.

Now, to further go into your question, I don't think that there was "0" before the big bang. Matter was ... impossibly dense, impossibly small (or so it goes.)

Why do we think that? Because we have observed that the universe is expanding. Therefore (the thesis goes) in the past it was not as expanded as now. And, the further in the past we go the less expanded the universe. Mathematicians and physicists have extrapolated from the data we have that it would mean the universe would have started to expand 14 billion years ago, or so.

It's still a mathematical model. The data we're finding seems to back it up. (This is so far beyond me that I can't begin to evaluate either the data or the thesis.)

But, in either case, the Big Bang does not prove nor disprove God. Just as evolution does not prove or disprove God.

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February 01, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
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Who created the big bang and who created space?  Serious question I want to know.

Wrong question. There is no "who". Science does not answer the question "why is the sky blue? It answers the question "how is it that our eyes / brains perceive the sky to be blue (this particular wavelength).

Asking why presupposes a creator. "Why does a rose have thorns?" "To symbolize the hardships and vicissitudes of life."

A scientist will not ask that question. He will pose a question and then test his thesis. AND, if the thesis cannot be falsified then ... it's not science.

My grave problems with global warming reporting is that it does not include how the thesis can be falsified.
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February 01, 2019, 05:11:43 PM
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An atheist might say that space always existed, and that the big bang just happened.

Cool
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February 01, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
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Who or what created the big bang and who/what created space?  Serious question I want to know.
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