The war of attrition already started here? Damn! Trump fooled me watching the cable for his Chinese attack.
BTW, this thread should be locked for peace to reign. I believe the issue has been resolved, except both parties love the sound of their keyboards. Silence is golden most times.
Topic: Campaign Management Gone Wrong (Bitcasino.io) - page 2. (Read 1042 times)
Definition of extortion: the practice of obtaining something through force or threats.
This is what you are doing to this campaign manager, You are trying to force him to let you stay in the campaign, I'm sure some DT members tag you for doing it this way.
I noticed that you have been hammering on potential earnings but my question is, how can you hold him accountable for a job you have not done exactly. It does not work that and continuing pushing this matter will only make you sound like a but-hurt who cannot live without what he will earn from this campaign.
I am actually more surprised that both of you could not resolve this issue of simple mistake till it degenerate to this point and both of you are at fault just as @Yahoo have rightly said. Managers are human and they are prone to mistakes, when that happen, there is a way to approach it and get it resolve without any noise about it. The two of you have just unleashed to the whole community how much ego you took in yourself over the welfare of another. #My opinion.
How am I blackmailing him? How did I ever blackmail him? I gave him a days worth to figure out the situation and what he wants to do before opening a scam accusation against him for not paying me .0042 BTC more than he says he owed me (his mistake, really a bad campaign manager for all of this, but that especially). That's really fair allowing him time. He might have had work or be sleeping, or wanted to fix it (surprise, he just lied about wanting to make everything right).
Yes, a campaign manager can choose to remove people. He did that to me in error. That's fine, I pointed the error out and asked him to fix everything. He said he would fix everything. He didn't, that's a scam. And it's worth $840 in future campaign earnings. But you don't care, it didn't happen to you. So we should probably just drop it and let it happen to somebody else too? No.
Also, he does owe me something if HE AGREES TO IT IN WRITING. (last picture) You talk about payment, what do you think about this payment talk in the pictures? Want to just ignore it?
Having read the entire thread, I think its time for you to move on. You have made your point, he has admitted his fault and its time to lock it up and go on. You guys might need to work together some other time and if he so wish, he won't enlist you again and if you wish too, take up a campaign management and not hire him if he should apply. Its your prerogative. I noticed that you have been hammering on potential earnings but my question is, how can you hold him accountable for a job you have not done exactly. It does not work that and continuing pushing this matter will only make you sound like a but-hurt who cannot live without what he will earn from this campaign.
I am actually more surprised that both of you could not resolve this issue of simple mistake till it degenerate to this point and both of you are at fault just as @Yahoo have rightly said. Managers are human and they are prone to mistakes, when that happen, there is a way to approach it and get it resolve without any noise about it. The two of you have just unleashed to the whole community how much ego you took in yourself over the welfare of another. #My opinion.
Definition of extortion: the practice of obtaining something through force or threats.
This is what you are doing to this campaign manager, You are trying to force him to let you stay in the campaign, I'm sure some DT members tag you for doing it this way. lol really you guys are blowing it out of proportions @Waffle - Why can't you just take the payment and leave him alone? He hires you in the campaign, is ready to pay you money, how is that extortion? As a campaign manager, he doesn't owe you an explanation for getting kicked out of the campaign.
Lol I like your little mention at how bad sportsbet.io is with withdrawal scamming. That aside, I really don't think somebody scamming another person and lying about an agreement made is blowing anything out of proportion. All my claims are from discussion which have evidence, so the fact that there exists detailed documentation almost certainly counters whatever claim of "blowing things out of proportion" can be made. The claims are made because they exist. As for extortion, IDK, what is threatening to not pay somebody unless they do something? What is threatening to hurt somebody financially or physically if they don't do what you want when you want? Extortion? Quote
My Campaigns with Sportsbet have paid out thousands of dollars to participants in the past few months ALONE.
Maybe sportsbet.io should also pay "thousands of dollars" to the players whose withdrawals are stuck since ages.Definition of extortion: the practice of obtaining something through force or threats.
lol really you guys are blowing it out of proportions @Waffle - Why can't you just take the payment and leave him alone? He hires you in the campaign, is ready to pay you money, how is that extortion? As a campaign manager, he doesn't owe you an explanation for getting kicked out of the campaign.
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My Campaigns with Sportsbet have paid out thousands of dollars to participants in the past few months ALONE.
Maybe sportsbet.io should also pay "thousands of dollars" to the players whose withdrawals are stuck since ages. I agree with him, YOU'RE A TOTAL MORON.
You can't understand a simple logic. Let me input it into your brain by making the letters bold:
HE IS THE MANAGER AND HE HAD THE RIGHT TO KICK YOU OUT FROM HIS CAMPAIGN WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION!
revealing the fraud, dishonesty, extortion, immaturity, bad managing and rule breaking of an individual is not blackmail. The 2nd pm is after he was continuously threatening to withhold agreed to funds, as in the pictures above.
I agree with him, YOU'RE A TOTAL MORON.
You can't understand a simple logic. Let me input it into your brain by making the letters bold:
HE IS THE MANAGER AND HE HAD THE RIGHT TO KICK YOU OUT FROM HIS CAMPAIGN WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION!
I was owed back into the campaign according to the agreement, which he just admitted was valid. So now what do you say? It's not scamming to put in writing that you'll make everything right, we'll delete it all and forget about it and not follow through with his end? Which lead me to exposing him? And Pharmacist, as you say he has the right to kick me out, yes he did, until he agreed to put me back in, which is in writing and you seem to acknowledge. Scammed $860 in potential because he is butthurt that he didn't follow through and I felt the need to expose all this bullshit he's pulling BECAUSE OF HIS MISTAKE.
Yes, a campaign manager can choose to remove people. He did that to me in error. That's fine, I pointed the error out and asked him to fix everything. He said he would fix everything. He didn't, that's a scam. And it's worth $840 in future campaign earnings. But you don't care, it didn't happen to you. So we should probably just drop it and let it happen to somebody else too? No.
Also, he does owe me something if HE AGREES TO IT IN WRITING. (last picture) You talk about payment, what do you think about this payment talk in the pictures? Want to just ignore it?
I was owed back into the campaign according to the agreement, which he just admitted was valid. So now what do you say? It's not scamming to put in writing that you'll make everything right, we'll delete it all and forget about it and not follow through with his end? Which lead me to exposing him? And Pharmacist, as you say he has the right to kick me out, yes he did, until he agreed to put me back in, which is in writing and you seem to acknowledge. Scammed $860 in potential because he is butthurt that he didn't follow through and I felt the need to expose all this bullshit he's pulling BECAUSE OF HIS MISTAKE.
Act like adults
Agreed, except I would add that since there's no arbitration mechanism for disputes--just a person's trust and reputation--I can see why people get a little crazy about these things and go on the defensive immediately. The amounts of money involved aren't exactly small by most people's standards.If jeremypwr made the mistake, and it was me I'd just fix it without restrictions or retaliation. He does have a decent reputation as a manager, and everyone makes mistakes. People can see it for what it is, and they should be trusted not to make any long-term judgements. It just looks like both sides of this dispute escalated it beyond the point where it needed to go. Kicking OP out of the campaign was a little harsh, but it's jeremypwr's campaign and he has the right to do that if he so chooses.
OP, there isn't much else to do except move on to another campaign if you can find one.
Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.
He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further. He literally just used logic that applied to both parties to try and discredit what I am owed but not what his duties are in the agreement.
Act like adults
Agreed, except I would add that since there's no arbitration mechanism for disputes--just a person's trust and reputation--I can see why people get a little crazy about these things and go on the defensive immediately. The amounts of money involved aren't exactly small by most people's standards.If jeremypwr made the mistake, and it was me I'd just fix it without restrictions or retaliation. He does have a decent reputation as a manager, and everyone makes mistakes. People can see it for what it is, and they should be trusted not to make any long-term judgements. It just looks like both sides of this dispute escalated it beyond the point where it needed to go. Kicking OP out of the campaign was a little harsh, but it's jeremypwr's campaign and he has the right to do that if he so chooses.
OP, there isn't much else to do except move on to another campaign if you can find one.
Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.
He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further. He literally just used logic that applied to both parties to try and discredit what I am owed but not what his duties are in the agreement.
Act like adults
Agreed, except I would add that since there's no arbitration mechanism for disputes--just a person's trust and reputation--I can see why people get a little crazy about these things and go on the defensive immediately. The amounts of money involved aren't exactly small by most people's standards.If jeremypwr made the mistake, and it was me I'd just fix it without restrictions or retaliation. He does have a decent reputation as a manager, and everyone makes mistakes. People can see it for what it is, and they should be trusted not to make any long-term judgements. It just looks like both sides of this dispute escalated it beyond the point where it needed to go. Kicking OP out of the campaign was a little harsh, but it's jeremypwr's campaign and he has the right to do that if he so chooses.
OP, there isn't much else to do except move on to another campaign if you can find one.
This thread has served its purpose, just let it go
Please lock thread @op.
This thread has served its purpose, just let it go
Please lock thread @op. 
"And now you're scamming me by not holding up to the $900 agreement."
Wow, this poor guy is seriously confused.
I'm done.
Wow, this poor guy is seriously confused.
I'm done.
If that doesn't sound like the biggest threat ever, then I don't know what to tell you.
"You will have 24 hours to respond or else....."
This thread has served its purpose, just let it go
Then we agreed that you would make everything right, which includes payment for all posts and being put back in campaign, then you scammed me again
Here's our agreement. You explicitly stated yes to the offer. And now you're scamming me by not holding up to the $900 agreement.
If that doesn't sound like the biggest threat ever, then I don't know what to tell you.
"You will have 24 hours to respond or else....."
This thread has served its purpose, just let it go
If that doesn't sound like the biggest threat ever, then I don't know what to tell you.
"You will have 24 hours to respond or else....."
I am taking nobodies side here. You're both in the wrong for sending blackmailing pms to each other. I'm just giving him advice as to how to better handle the situation. It's not like you're an angel here bud. You are sending him threats as much as he is you.
Act like adults
What was my blackmail PM if I may ask? You have all the pm pictures to show if I really did blackmail somebody. After he extorted me I said I was going to now post scam accusations because it is against the rules? He scammed me because he agreed to make everything right, which would include putting me back in the campaign. It's all in writing. Wow following the rules must be blackmail. Act like adults
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