Can a pool change miner address when submitting a found block?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on March 06, 2023, 03:35:58 PM

well in the case of mmpool.org they claim they never got their last block

check thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mmpoolorg-15-fee-dgmpps-tx-feesvardiffmerge-minetor-559011

this is one of many small pool dangers that can happen.

Waw i did not know about the mmpool drama, so sad to hear about it, but just to make things clear, the pool's server and private key was stolen, this could happen to any pool that isn't fully secured,(the pool operator might have stolen the funds as well), so as far as the current topic is concerned, a miner can't change the pool's btc address after solving a block, the funds will arrive at the pool's address, then it is a matter of how secured the pool's keys are.

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Quote from: jbrogan on March 01, 2023, 05:47:15 PM

Quote from: mikeywith on March 01, 2023, 05:40:39 PM

Quote from: jbrogan on February 16, 2023, 11:05:21 PM

Not that this is happening anywhere, but i have always been curious if a pool could change the miners BTC address when a block is found. So the reward goes somewhere other than to the miner that found it.

Mainly curious if this =could= be done and if yes, how could I spot it happening. It may be impossible but I wanted to know.

Thanks

Mining pools don't pay to the miner's address directly, the rewards go to the pool's address and then it's distributed from there, even for solo mining pools where one miner gets the whole block, the rewards still have to go to the pool's address, and then sent to the miner after keeping the pool fees, the question is whether the miners can replace the pool's bitcoin address with their own address, and the answer above is pretty accurate, it's just "impossible".

Thanks - that's good to know.

well in the case of mmpool.org they claim they never got their last block

check thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mmpoolorg-15-fee-dgmpps-tx-feesvardiffmerge-minetor-559011

this is one of many small pool dangers that can happen.

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Quote from: mikeywith on March 01, 2023, 05:40:39 PM

Quote from: jbrogan on February 16, 2023, 11:05:21 PM

Not that this is happening anywhere, but i have always been curious if a pool could change the miners BTC address when a block is found. So the reward goes somewhere other than to the miner that found it.

Mainly curious if this =could= be done and if yes, how could I spot it happening. It may be impossible but I wanted to know.

Thanks

Mining pools don't pay to the miner's address directly, the rewards go to the pool's address and then it's distributed from there, even for solo mining pools where one miner gets the whole block, the rewards still have to go to the pool's address, and then sent to the miner after keeping the pool fees, the question is whether the miners can replace the pool's bitcoin address with their own address, and the answer above is pretty accurate, it's just "impossible".

Thanks - that's good to know.

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Quote from: jbrogan on February 16, 2023, 11:05:21 PM

Not that this is happening anywhere, but i have always been curious if a pool could change the miners BTC address when a block is found. So the reward goes somewhere other than to the miner that found it.

Mainly curious if this =could= be done and if yes, how could I spot it happening. It may be impossible but I wanted to know.

Thanks

Mining pools don't pay to the miner's address directly, the rewards go to the pool's address and then it's distributed from there, even for solo mining pools where one miner gets the whole block, the rewards still have to go to the pool's address, and then sent to the miner after keeping the pool fees, the question is whether the miners can replace the pool's bitcoin address with their own address, and the answer above is pretty accurate, it's just "impossible".

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Once a share is hashed in the miner, no one can change any of the coinbase at all.
Not the miner, nor the pool.

The coinbase says the addresses the coins go to.
If you change any of the coinbase at all, then the share will hash to a different value that wont ever be a block
(well to be specific it currently has a 1 in 168,175,457,683,756,768,296,960 chance of being a block)

https://kano.is/index.php?k=mining
https://kano.is/index.php?k=minedet

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Not that this is happening anywhere, but i have always been curious if a pool could change the miners BTC address when a block is found. So the reward goes somewhere other than to the miner that found it.

Mainly curious if this =could= be done and if yes, how could I spot it happening. It may be impossible but I wanted to know.

Thanks

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