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Topic: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor (Read 361844 times)

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So mmpool.org is just totally offline and that's all ?

So now we have no way of knowing what's happening with the pretended reimbursements, lawsuits and the rest of the story? We're not talking about a few pennies lying around at the bottom of a car ashtray!

sure seems like it.

this whole thing is wild. feels like maybe the pool & all credentials were hacked at some point after the last payout or the pool operator exit scammed and begged for donations at the last second. The way the operator was egging on ctya seems straight up predatory and the begging for donations at the end seems like a classic scammer move. at least no one donated

https://mempool.space/address/bc1qxaaymhtsvtwg3a5shf370h72kqs68cwale5pxj
hero member
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Crypto Swap Exchange
So mmpool.org is just totally offline and that's all ?

So now we have no way of knowing what's happening with the pretended reimbursements, lawsuits and the rest of the story? We're not talking about a few pennies lying around at the bottom of a car ashtray!
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...Payouts to all users will be done over the next two weeks for any outstanding balances automatically. An update will be posted here when that is complete...

It has been two weeks.  There have been no updates.  There have been no payouts.


This whole thing just sucks!  I hate dishonest people, they can all go straight to hell!
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...Payouts to all users will be done over the next two weeks for any outstanding balances automatically. An update will be posted here when that is complete...

It has been two weeks.  There have been no updates.  There have been no payouts.



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From my side mmpool's website is down...

same here
legendary
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Escrow Service
From my side mmpool's website is down...
I think the pool is down, but the news website is working from my view (I can open the news page)
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From my side mmpool's website is down...
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He says he is going to pay out.

As I understood ; he is asking for donations and for the hacker to send back the funds.

I think he will pay the coins from previous blocks (before the hack) to the people who didn't withdraw no ?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
He says he is going to pay out.
legendary
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-> morgen, ist heute, schon gestern <-
It can of course also be found at the mmpool website.

and here it is:
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News

2023-01-31

    After much consideration it has been decided not to resume the pool operation. There is too much risk involved in operating bitcoin services. While an attacker only needs to succeed once, the pool must succeed in defending every time. There is no upside for this risk for a low volume pool such as this. The pool has operated the last few years successfully and while blocks have been few, it has always operated honestly. It's unfortunate the actions of one person ends things in this way. Payouts to all users will be done over the next two weeks for any outstanding balances automatically. An update will be posted here when that is complete.

    Investigation will continue in finding the person who stole the funds. Based on logs, emails with the attacker, and recent additional hacking attempts, it looks likely the attacker was a pool user. I again ask that you return the funds so it can be passed on to the pool users, before you are found. No action will be taken if this happens. For all enquiries I can be reached at admin (at) mmpool.org. Funds can be returned to bc1qxaaymhtsvtwg3a5shf370h72kqs68cwale5pxj. Donations to help with the wrap up of the pool also accepted to that address, and they will be used to pay out to users that had their block contribution stolen by the attacker.

no neeed to go anywhere else, Bitcointalk.org
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
However, the above pool is an altcoin pool, so I'd suggest people avoid it, as is normal for people in this part of the forum.
The shameless self advertising for that work-in-progress algo switching pool was deleted by the mods.  Grin
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
An update on mmpool closing passed on in Kano's Discord room https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691838852985520148/1070036494913380433/IMG_20230131_124018.jpg
It can of course also be found at the mmpool website.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
This incident should be better known to the community and law enforcement.  What if the pool operator isn't doing this?  Maybe someone can write a press release.  There are free press release services out there.

http://mmpool.org/

MMPool is just a static news page today.
The rest of the site links serve the same news page.

The bitcoin node is offiline since about Jan 12, 2023 01:30 AM UTC
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/193.29.105.150-8333/

MMPool News

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2023-01-12
The pool server is down while it is being rebuilt. This status page exists to keep up to date with progress. Investigation is continuing towards tracking down who infiltrated the server. A forensic examination of the server is underway. For any questions please email admin (at) mmpool.org. I encourage any pool user affected by this to email and get in touch. Any other communications medium other than that account does not represent the pool. Any help or advice appreciated.

I lost a very small amount, around 0.007 btc, but it still pisses me off because to maintain that little bit of coin over the last year cost a metric shit ton of power and money!  I truly feel for ctya and completely understand his anger!

Very sad.

I mined here for 8 years.
I collected a lot of BTC over time.

I think I lost 0.01 btc on this block I can live with it.

But it is sad whether it was the pool owner or a hacker it is sad. Now coins are going up so it hurts even more.
member
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This incident should be better known to the community and law enforcement.  What if the pool operator isn't doing this?  Maybe someone can write a press release.  There are free press release services out there.

http://mmpool.org/

MMPool is just a static news page today.
The rest of the site links serve the same news page.

The bitcoin node is offiline since about Jan 12, 2023 01:30 AM UTC
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/193.29.105.150-8333/

MMPool News

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2023-01-12
The pool server is down while it is being rebuilt. This status page exists to keep up to date with progress. Investigation is continuing towards tracking down who infiltrated the server. A forensic examination of the server is underway. For any questions please email admin (at) mmpool.org. I encourage any pool user affected by this to email and get in touch. Any other communications medium other than that account does not represent the pool. Any help or advice appreciated.

I lost a very small amount, around 0.007 btc, but it still pisses me off because to maintain that little bit of coin over the last year cost a metric shit ton of power and money!  I truly feel for ctya and completely understand his anger!
member
Activity: 297
Merit: 30
This incident should be better known to the community and law enforcement.  What if the pool operator isn't doing this?  Maybe someone can write a press release.  There are free press release services out there.

http://mmpool.org/

MMPool is just a static news page today.
The rest of the site links serve the same news page.

The bitcoin node is offiline since about Jan 12, 2023 01:30 AM UTC
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/193.29.105.150-8333/

MMPool News

Quote
2023-01-12
The pool server is down while it is being rebuilt. This status page exists to keep up to date with progress. Investigation is continuing towards tracking down who infiltrated the server. A forensic examination of the server is underway. For any questions please email admin (at) mmpool.org. I encourage any pool user affected by this to email and get in touch. Any other communications medium other than that account does not represent the pool. Any help or advice appreciated.
hero member
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This incident should be better known to the community and law enforcement.  What if the pool operator isn't doing this?  Maybe someone can write a press release.  There are free press release services out there.
member
Activity: 297
Merit: 30

We all have to unfortunately sit back now and let the investigation run its course....

If it was a hack, then I hope they get caught, are forced to return every dime and then fry the scumbag. If it was an Admin exit strategy, then the same.

...Pool Admin to me via email

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I'm currently travelling with limited internet access, it's unfortunate timing for the pool issues happening around Christmas/New Year period. It has been difficult coordinating and reaching people.

I have contacted Proton Mail and have not yet received a response.

Communication with authorities is ongoing. It would help to have contact details for the main people affected to pass on to them. Do you have any I can provide?

I am still attempting to communicate with the person who accessed the server.

The server is still available for analysis.

I'm am just as affected as you are and would like to get resolution for the issue. While this is haopening the plan is to fix the issues and get the server running again.


so.  very.  scammy.




 

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He should have already reported this theft to the Swedish police and the hosting ISP, 247.  A backup of the server should have been frozen as forensic evidence.
But we have seen no evidence that these common practices were followed.

The admin will probably wipe out the server with some pool rebuild next and claim that all evidence of the intrusion was lost.

It's not just a lack of transparency.  It is negligence and fraud.



First step is that the server should have immediately been unplugged and taken offline, air gapped and NOT backed up.

Police contacted as this was occurring would be the next logical step.

A backup of the server could trigger some a script to help clean the hacker(s) tracks. That's going under the assumption that there was a hack.

In any event the lack of clear communications from Admin is concerning but I wouldn't say we should jump to fraud just yet.

We all have to unfortunately sit back now and let the investigation run its course....

If it was a hack, then I hope they get caught, are forced to return every dime and then fry the scumbag. If it was an Admin exit strategy, then the same.
member
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I wish you the best for your researches. I hope you will find him

I am personnaly still thinking that mmpool is the thief. So easy no ? Steal 100K USD and post 2 emails without any proof on your own website, it doesn't look to be so complicated. Good reward for the efforts done, no ?

An honest pool operator would not ignore his users emails, especially emails from the user who solved 90% of the last blocks.

I agree with ctya, no one should point any hashrate to Mmpool, why should we trust him again ? We have NO PROOF that he is not telling us absolute bullshit on his news webpage. He is not able to give us security, and probably did a crazy exist scam. Why should we give him the opportunity to fuck us twice ?

I really hate this lack of transparency from mmpool. He could do an exception to his "Bitcointalk boycott" and come here to explain us how he managed to have such vulnerabilities on his server when his hosts a BTC mining pool.

Crazy


He should have already reported this theft to the Swedish police and the hosting ISP, 247.  A backup of the server should have been frozen as forensic evidence.
But we have seen no evidence that these common practices were followed.

The admin will probably wipe out the server with some pool rebuild next and claim that all evidence of the intrusion was lost.

It's not just a lack of transparency.  It is negligence and fraud.

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Crypto Swap Exchange

In case anyone was thinking about mining at mmpool.org:  Do not mine at mmpool.org

admin@mmpool has not replied to any of the several emails sent to him since 28 December 2022. 


By the way, I might have accepted the missing block scenario he describes in his news post. 
It might have been a way to move forward if this wasn't already full of lies and fraud.
It might have resulted in a large payout to me.
It is a shame that I wasn't asked if that was ok despite being owed so much and despite my several attempts by email to continue the conversation.
If he had posted that here on BTF back at 16 December 2022, then we might still be mining right into his next fraud.

Instead, I have found his location and let him know that location via email. 
Then he posted the latest news entry with more facts for you all.
I'll hire an investigator and a lawyer in his english-speaking home country (far from Sweden!) to follow up on my behalf.
He doesn't want to engage directly, so I now have to invest more to continue the conversation in person.

In the best-case scenario, the admin is negligent and he has allowed a thief to steal the reward of the last round while also neglecting his community of miners.
In the worst-case scenario, the admin is the thief.

I won't mine at mmpool.org and you shouldn't either.

I wish you the best for your researches. I hope you will find him

I am personnaly still thinking that mmpool is the thief. So easy no ? Steal 100K USD and post 2 emails without any proof on your own website, it doesn't look to be so complicated. Good reward for the efforts done, no ?

An honest pool operator would not ignore his users emails, especially emails from the user who solved 90% of the last blocks.

I agree with ctya, no one should point any hashrate to Mmpool, why should we trust him again ? We have NO PROOF that he is not telling us absolute bullshit on his news webpage. He is not able to give us security, and probably did a crazy exist scam. Why should we give him the opportunity to fuck us twice ?

I really hate this lack of transparency from mmpool. He could do an exception to his "Bitcointalk boycott" and come here to explain us how he managed to have such vulnerabilities on his server when his hosts a BTC mining pool.

Crazy
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