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September 26, 2016, 07:31:14 AM
Bitcoin cant make banks disappear but in future, it would reduce number of people who depends the banks for their daily transactions.
In future, a time may come where banks would be earning only by lending loans to people and it may take a long time to come.

I don't think that the operations of banks will be limited only to lending services in future as there will be many people who will prefer to depend on banking system for their day to day transactions.

Of course but imagine if lending would be implemented and bitcoin credit cards were made, it just mean that bitcoin users will not be anonymous because credit cards will need some identification of the user not just address and a signed message.
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September 26, 2016, 07:17:21 AM
Thinking bitcoin can make banks dissappear is maybe a little bit too ambitious but it can make banks lose money ofcourse I think it's already doing that.
Ofcourse banks don't feel the pain yet but when it gets more globally adopted then they will feel the pain for sure.
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September 26, 2016, 07:02:24 AM
100% no and no sense to think of this.

Banks has it's purposes that serves the people and bitcoin can't do all of that services alone.

Why dissappear if it's more convenient if we have them both?

yes this nothing for me and it doesn't make any sense bank vs. bitcoin people leteraly choose banks ofcourse it is more safe than bitcoin wallet and for me also bitcoin for me is just a side line where we can earn and save it into our bitcoin wallet and if we withdraw our money we use banks for it.

yeah you are right! Impossible to make the banks disappear by bitcoin and its a very useless thing! We all know that people will always choose banks not bitcoin because it is our bank! Our traditional bank! Unlike bitcoin it is new to us and new to every one! We are using it as payment, earning and learning things from internet.
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September 26, 2016, 06:58:40 AM
100% no and no sense to think of this.

Banks has it's purposes that serves the people and bitcoin can't do all of that services alone.

Why dissappear if it's more convenient if we have them both?

yes this nothing for me and it doesn't make any sense bank vs. bitcoin people leteraly choose banks ofcourse it is more safe than bitcoin wallet and for me also bitcoin for me is just a side line where we can earn and save it into our bitcoin wallet and if we withdraw our money we use banks for it.
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September 26, 2016, 06:56:52 AM
Bitcoin cant make banks disappear but in future, it would reduce number of people who depends the banks for their daily transactions.
In future, a time may come where banks would be earning only by lending loans to people and it may take a long time to come.

I don't think that the operations of banks will be limited only to lending services in future as there will be many people who will prefer to depend on banking system for their day to day transactions.
Correct bank will not disappear and it is good to all transaction will go thru in the bank it was avoiding scam, stealing or illegal transaction but no one can knows what will happen in the future.
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September 26, 2016, 06:47:15 AM
Bitcoin cant make banks disappear but in future, it would reduce number of people who depends the banks for their daily transactions.
In future, a time may come where banks would be earning only by lending loans to people and it may take a long time to come.

I don't think that the operations of banks will be limited only to lending services in future as there will be many people who will prefer to depend on banking system for their day to day transactions.
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September 26, 2016, 06:44:17 AM
Bitcoin cant make banks disappear but in future, it would reduce number of people who depends the banks for their daily transactions.
In future, a time may come where banks would be earning only by lending loans to people and it may take a long time to come.
sr. member
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September 26, 2016, 04:46:48 AM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

We share the same thought, banks  will never disapper even if bitcoin become international currency.  The reason is that bank isn't for money storage alone.  Banks are also used to store precious metal or delicate documents which is locked inside it's vault.  So even if Bitcoin control the currency, bank will simply find its way to adopt in the situation and taking advantage and earning out of it.

We don't see any strong reason behind bitcoin replacing banks, as bitcoin is too small in compare to banks and banks holds support from the society and Government, where people don't have much faith in bitcoin.

Yeah, it is really hard to believe that bitcoin is going to make banks disappear and even though bitcoin is having high value at all. Banks will always be there because all the people need banks for a country. But I am thinking that this is be possible that the bitcoin are going to be adopted by banks but they are not able to make it disappear.
Not gonna happen, even in the future, bitcoin is just created by an anonymous person while banks are created by the government a long time ago, therefore if you will analyze it is impossible to make a trusted entity disappear just to welcome an anonymous asset or currency.
Banks Is the most secure place to keep our money although there are so many fees we need to pay for administration and etc. bitcoin Wallet is needed for some one that wanna lower fee to keep money. bitcoin world can be help someone that wanna find a way to get second resources. Bitcoin and bank, both is important.

They are still businesses so they get their profits to those  fees. Unlike bitcoin there is no physical thing, no need to rent a space for it to move. Those online wallets are the one taking fees for the capital they paid when they bought it and some more for employees income. If you have a offline wallet then there is no problem.

Bitcoin and banks can go together as long as there are bitcoins and fiat money circulating in the economy. There is no way that fiat money will gone and so there is no way banks will be out of business. Bitcoins has different use with fiat money in many ways so there is no way that it will replace fiat money and banks because it is just an alternative to using fiat money online.
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September 20, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

We share the same thought, banks  will never disapper even if bitcoin become international currency.  The reason is that bank isn't for money storage alone.  Banks are also used to store precious metal or delicate documents which is locked inside it's vault.  So even if Bitcoin control the currency, bank will simply find its way to adopt in the situation and taking advantage and earning out of it.

We don't see any strong reason behind bitcoin replacing banks, as bitcoin is too small in compare to banks and banks holds support from the society and Government, where people don't have much faith in bitcoin.

Yeah, it is really hard to believe that bitcoin is going to make banks disappear and even though bitcoin is having high value at all. Banks will always be there because all the people need banks for a country. But I am thinking that this is be possible that the bitcoin are going to be adopted by banks but they are not able to make it disappear.
Not gonna happen, even in the future, bitcoin is just created by an anonymous person while banks are created by the government a long time ago, therefore if you will analyze it is impossible to make a trusted entity disappear just to welcome an anonymous asset or currency.
Banks Is the most secure place to keep our money although there are so many fees we need to pay for administration and etc. bitcoin Wallet is needed for some one that wanna lower fee to keep money. bitcoin world can be help someone that wanna find a way to get second resources. Bitcoin and bank, both is important.

They are still businesses so they get their profits to those  fees. Unlike bitcoin there is no physical thing, no need to rent a space for it to move. Those online wallets are the one taking fees for the capital they paid when they bought it and some more for employees income. If you have a offline wallet then there is no problem.
sr. member
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September 20, 2016, 10:30:30 PM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

We share the same thought, banks  will never disapper even if bitcoin become international currency.  The reason is that bank isn't for money storage alone.  Banks are also used to store precious metal or delicate documents which is locked inside it's vault.  So even if Bitcoin control the currency, bank will simply find its way to adopt in the situation and taking advantage and earning out of it.

We don't see any strong reason behind bitcoin replacing banks, as bitcoin is too small in compare to banks and banks holds support from the society and Government, where people don't have much faith in bitcoin.

Yeah, it is really hard to believe that bitcoin is going to make banks disappear and even though bitcoin is having high value at all. Banks will always be there because all the people need banks for a country. But I am thinking that this is be possible that the bitcoin are going to be adopted by banks but they are not able to make it disappear.
Not gonna happen, even in the future, bitcoin is just created by an anonymous person while banks are created by the government a long time ago, therefore if you will analyze it is impossible to make a trusted entity disappear just to welcome an anonymous asset or currency.
Banks Is the most secure place to keep our money although there are so many fees we need to pay for administration and etc. bitcoin Wallet is needed for some one that wanna lower fee to keep money. bitcoin world can be help someone that wanna find a way to get second resources. Bitcoin and bank, both is important.
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September 20, 2016, 10:02:55 PM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

We share the same thought, banks  will never disapper even if bitcoin become international currency.  The reason is that bank isn't for money storage alone.  Banks are also used to store precious metal or delicate documents which is locked inside it's vault.  So even if Bitcoin control the currency, bank will simply find its way to adopt in the situation and taking advantage and earning out of it.

We don't see any strong reason behind bitcoin replacing banks, as bitcoin is too small in compare to banks and banks holds support from the society and Government, where people don't have much faith in bitcoin.

Yeah, it is really hard to believe that bitcoin is going to make banks disappear and even though bitcoin is having high value at all. Banks will always be there because all the people need banks for a country. But I am thinking that this is be possible that the bitcoin are going to be adopted by banks but they are not able to make it disappear.
Not gonna happen, even in the future, bitcoin is just created by an anonymous person while banks are created by the government a long time ago, therefore if you will analyze it is impossible to make a trusted entity disappear just to welcome an anonymous asset or currency.
legendary
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September 20, 2016, 12:19:08 PM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

We share the same thought, banks  will never disapper even if bitcoin become international currency.  The reason is that bank isn't for money storage alone.  Banks are also used to store precious metal or delicate documents which is locked inside it's vault.  So even if Bitcoin control the currency, bank will simply find its way to adopt in the situation and taking advantage and earning out of it.

We don't see any strong reason behind bitcoin replacing banks, as bitcoin is too small in compare to banks and banks holds support from the society and Government, where people don't have much faith in bitcoin.
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September 20, 2016, 12:15:46 PM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

We share the same thought, banks  will never disapper even if bitcoin become international currency.  The reason is that bank isn't for money storage alone.  Banks are also used to store precious metal or delicate documents which is locked inside it's vault.  So even if Bitcoin control the currency, bank will simply find its way to adopt in the situation and taking advantage and earning out of it.

The banks will just use the bitcoin or other coins. The Santander will use Etheruem.

http://www.coindesk.com/santander-vies-become-first-bank-issue-digital-cash-blockchain/

Santander Vies to Become First Bank to Issue Cash on Blockchain

Spanish banking giant Santander is working on a project that explores how it could digitize customer cash using the public ethereum blockchain.

Revealed today during a panel talk at Devcon2 by Ether.camp founder and ethereum Java client developer Roman Mandeleil, the news was confirmed by representatives of Santander. In statements, Santander said its goal is to open up its bank-issued funds to a community of innovators as a way of tapping additional efficiencies.

Given the recent deluge of proofs-of-concepts and consortium announcements, Santander's move to potentially issue digital cash on a live public blockchain emerges as one of the more unique projects globally. Running for more than a year, the ethereum network has a market cap of more than $1bn and nearly 40,000 in daily transactions.

In interview, Mandeleil explained that the Santander project envisions how the bank’s customers could convert money from their real bank accounts into a 'tokenized' online currency called 'Cash ETH' that would be redeemable for paper currency.

Mandeleil told CoinDesk:

"These tokens are backed by real money in Santander. At any moment you can get them back and get the dollars."

In a demonstration, Mandeleil showed how a fictional customer could use the prototype to create digital money for use at online merchants and accessible with a mnemonic passcode called a brain wallet. (Despite past issues with the concept, he called this version "statistically hard to break").

Santander representatives indicated that the bank is now seeking to work with Ether.camp on engaging other banking partners in the project. The two partners are also looking to run hackathons that would focus on developing use cases around micropayments.

In essence, the project aims to envision a way for banks to open up their basic bank account offerings to new ideas and transactional services. Further, Mandeleil said the project is part of his 10-person startup's vision that focuses more on using blockchain technologies to achieve incremental benefits for banks and consumers.

"It's more like evolution, not revolution," he said. Still, he emphasized that the trial, should it go live, would mark a "huge leap" by establishing a connection between a publicly traded financial firm and and a public blockchain.

"You can start to build more and more stuff and say to the regulators 'It's not so scary,'" he continued.

Elsewhere, in his talk, Mandeleil discussed Ether.camp'sk with blockchain startup firms including Gemini and Rootstock.

Mass media

Mandeleil showcased a system whereby a Santander customer would have three new options to coincide with their traditional bank account – tokenize, transfer or refund.

Should the user elect to 'tokenize' their funds, the system is set up to allow for payments of as low as $0.01, though small charges may add to Santander’s earnings depending on how the user chooses to allocate the funds. In the example, $350 in funds were withdraw to a test version of the ethereum blockchain, with $1 going toward gas payments, which are needed as payment to execute transactions on the network.

By paying the gas upfront, the user is allotted a certain pre-set number of transactions they can execute, though this figure can be increased with additional payment. Mandeleil sees the digital Santander dollars as a viable alternative to PayPal.

"It's not something that users will not do to have the agility of money. You click on the payment, then you put in the private key and you have the balance and the reliable transactions," he said.

To offer a better view on the project, Mandeleil walked CoinDesk through a version of the prototype in which a user tokenized funds for use as payment for an article on a demo version of The New York Times website.

Users could then exchange the digital money with other users, though Mandeleil said these funds would be redeemable with Santander.

In this light, the partnership also offers the bank a new avenue by which to add to its accountholder base.

Questions ahead

According to Mandeleil, the project first began seven months ago, when Santander approached the Ether.camp team with the idea for the effort, but more work remains.

Should Santander succeed in receiving regulatory approval to ultimately move forward, it will need to contend with the challenges of potential growth.

For example, Mandeleil said he is speaking with Santander about the issues that could arise from a broad number of banks all issuing their own versions of digital cash, which might lead to interoperability and settlement issues.

Mandeleil, though, sees the current blockchain market as already providing relevant examples for how workarounds to this could be achieved. For instance, he mentioned the available cryptocurrency conversion tools as one service that could offer a potential solution should the project progress.

Going forward, Mandeleil and Santander said the partners are seeking to engage more banks in the project, which they compared to the Universal Settlement Coin project spearheaded by UBS and also involving Santander.

Representatives of Santander said that additional legal work needs to be done before moving forward, and that it is currently exploring whether it needs additional licensure.
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September 19, 2016, 01:15:43 PM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

We share the same thought, banks  will never disapper even if bitcoin become international currency.  The reason is that bank isn't for money storage alone.  Banks are also used to store precious metal or delicate documents which is locked inside it's vault.  So even if Bitcoin control the currency, bank will simply find its way to adopt in the situation and taking advantage and earning out of it.
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September 19, 2016, 12:31:05 PM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy

For each country banks are really needed because it is a body of government that is governing for the movement of money in the cycle of the economy. And they are the one who are moderating the use of money and flow of it in the system of a government. So if bitcoin is going to make banks disappear then our medium of currency will be somehow unstable.
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September 19, 2016, 07:46:18 AM
Bitcoin has a lot of power but not enough to actually do something to bank. It can be a little bit threating to the banks ofcourse.
But the banks have so much power that it will not matter what happens, they will stay on top of everything and bitcoin cant push them down.

even banks are not powerful bitcoin wont make banks disappear since they are not currency, banks are just storage of fiat money even how bitcoin would be succesful in the long run but  it wont affect banks for sure majority of us would use fiat money after all.
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September 19, 2016, 07:12:24 AM
Bitcoin has a lot of power but not enough to actually do something to bank. It can be a little bit threating to the banks ofcourse.
But the banks have so much power that it will not matter what happens, they will stay on top of everything and bitcoin cant push them down.

Banks are already an institution in our finances. However, bitcoins is establishing itself also as an institution of revolutionizing online commercial transactions. It is not competing with banks, it just serves as a good alternative to banks. We use fiat money and we need bank same is true to using bitcoins in other transactions that accepts bitcoin.
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September 19, 2016, 03:21:54 AM
Bitcoin has a lot of power but not enough to actually do something to bank. It can be a little bit threating to the banks ofcourse.
But the banks have so much power that it will not matter what happens, they will stay on top of everything and bitcoin cant push them down.
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September 19, 2016, 03:14:41 AM
I also agree with you all. bitcoin might not make disappear the bank, because the bank is a financial institution that is essential for the international economy
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September 18, 2016, 09:31:55 PM
No. Banks are going to be there forever because of the Governments 'taking care' of them all the time. They are never going to disappear because they're being built for surveillance and for control.

Yes banks aren't going to disappear because it can't be removed by government easily just because with bitcoin. And it must have due process before it is going to disappear.

And bitcoin is not going to be controlled by the governments too unless they are going to talk to the devs of bitcoin.

For sure it is not going to happen and government is not going to agree with that too.
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