it was just a stupid action or a game that actually makes you fall when there is no way to cover your debts that have accumulated with great interest.
stupid action? in my opinion bitcoin cannot stop the debts and such stuff until our whole financial system wont fall
Topic: Can bitcoins stop bad debts (Read 1603 times)
it was just a stupid action or a game that actually makes you fall when there is no way to cover your debts that have accumulated with great interest.
stupid action? in my opinion bitcoin cannot stop the debts and such stuff until our whole financial system wont fall 
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
If its people debts then they must earn for it too. It is the same with fiat if they owe the government or the bank money then they will get a job to pay it.
There is no exception in bitcoin. To pay is to work for it. But if are saying paying through bitcoin then why not just cash it out or exchange it to fiat. It will also be the same.
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
There`s no way that bitcoin or any other currency can stop bad debts.
Bad gebts have nothing to do with bitcoin and btc is not the solution for this problem.
The european economy needs to start growing.
I think it has the potential to change the world and the idea of debt based economy itself, it might not be so good in person to person lending but on broader aspect I think it would change the way the economy looks.
With Bitcoins capability of being used anonymous this can actually increase bad debts. Just look at the lending section, how many defaulted loan because they thought it will not have a direct affect in their real life credit score. if you are earning in Bitcoins as a side job maybe yes it can help but not thoroughly eliminate or help bad debts.
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
There's no bad in borrowing money. It depends on how you will handle it. BTC or cash because you can pay back those you borrowed in time if you have hardwork and you make you borrowed cash or BTC in a productive way like investing and trading. the profit you earn can be the payment for the one you borrowed. borrowing money is not bad, but with bitcoin you really have to have the money that you want to borrow. i can not write you on a paper that you have x bitcoin. i have to have them and then give them to you.
today banks operate in a way, that they do not have the money that they borrow you. they just make the money up out of thin air by simply adding it to your account.
that is quite a difference.
Actually, the basic principle is quite the same. Even when a bank creates the non existing money and add it to your account, you can still withdraw it in cash form since the bank in question has enough cash reserves to do so. What's the difference if you place a Bitcoin exchange in the same situation? They can also just create non existing Bitcoins and add them to your account. But with enough cash (Bitcoins in this case) reserves, the exchange can still pay you out by sending the coins to your wallet. The main difference is that banks have a "backdoor" to the government in which they can basically borrow endless amounts of money. With Bitcoin, the exchange acting as bank will run out of coins.
two things.
1. i was under the impression that an exchange (serious ones, not those who want to scam you) has the actual bitcoins they store fore the costumer. maybe in cold storage or some place else, but they could pay every costumer in the event of a "bankrun".
2. an exchange has no possibility to create new bitcoin, like the banks can create money. an exchange could "create" bitcoin by just writing some amount down in a costumers account, but this does not create new bitcoin, this would only create some digital "i owe you" which would be worthless, since another exchange would give you nothing (or at least no bitcoins) for it.
a banks "i owe you" is worth the actual amount and another bank would pay it out for you.
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
There's no bad in borrowing money. It depends on how you will handle it. BTC or cash because you can pay back those you borrowed in time if you have hardwork and you make you borrowed cash or BTC in a productive way like investing and trading. the profit you earn can be the payment for the one you borrowed. borrowing money is not bad, but with bitcoin you really have to have the money that you want to borrow. i can not write you on a paper that you have x bitcoin. i have to have them and then give them to you.
today banks operate in a way, that they do not have the money that they borrow you. they just make the money up out of thin air by simply adding it to your account.
that is quite a difference.
Actually, the basic principle is quite the same. Even when a bank creates the non existing money and add it to your account, you can still withdraw it in cash form since the bank in question has enough cash reserves to do so. What's the difference if you place a Bitcoin exchange in the same situation? They can also just create non existing Bitcoins and add them to your account. But with enough cash (Bitcoins in this case) reserves, the exchange can still pay you out by sending the coins to your wallet. The main difference is that banks have a "backdoor" to the government in which they can basically borrow endless amounts of money. With Bitcoin, the exchange acting as bank will run out of coins.
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
There's no bad in borrowing money. It depends on how you will handle it. BTC or cash because you can pay back those you borrowed in time if you have hardwork and you make you borrowed cash or BTC in a productive way like investing and trading. the profit you earn can be the payment for the one you borrowed. borrowing money is not bad, but with bitcoin you really have to have the money that you want to borrow. i can not write you on a paper that you have x bitcoin. i have to have them and then give them to you.
today banks operate in a way, that they do not have the money that they borrow you. they just make the money up out of thin air by simply adding it to your account.
that is quite a difference.
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
I think so too. Whether its bitcoin or fiat, people will still borrow it because you can purchase goods whether its fiat or bitcoin. Well bitcoin may still need to be converted to fiat to buy the things that they need but nevertheless it is still money so it will not stop bad debt. What people need is money management and it does not matter whether its digital or fiat money because both can be use for spending, investing, or saving.
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
There's no bad in borrowing money. It depends on how you will handle it. BTC or cash because you can pay back those you borrowed in time if you have hardwork and you make you borrowed cash or BTC in a productive way like investing and trading. the profit you earn can be the payment for the one you borrowed. 
Of course it is not realistic to assume that Bitcoin will end bad debts, because Bitcoin won't change human behavior. People / governments will still try to live beyond their means if they find "investors" that will lend them more money. However Bitcoin makes debt service harder, because it makes currency devaluation impossible and therefore might discourage excessive lending.
The advantages of Bitcoin compared to fiat are clear: Bitcoin is not subject to inflation through excessive money creation. Any holder of Bitcoin will profit from this.
ya.ya.yo!
Sovereign debt means nothing, they can always make more money.
The advantages of Bitcoin compared to fiat are clear: Bitcoin is not subject to inflation through excessive money creation. Any holder of Bitcoin will profit from this.
ya.ya.yo!
There's no crises, Euro is fiat, they can just make a shit load of it, and they are doing it, Euro is being pumped into the eurozone economy like there's no tomorrow, debt is at its highest and things are getting better.
Sovereign debt means nothing, they can always make more money.
Sovereign debt means nothing, they can always make more money.
Bitcoin isn't here to pay loans that people couldn't afford neither is it here to pay loans given without any guarantees...
I totally agree with you with that!Loans are loans and should not be taken out from people who don't have the sufficent amount to pay it back. Or they will just forget about it and default on those loans.
I think bitcoin can help people to feel secure and their money in their hand. And with bitcoin they don't have to depend upon banks security or other bullshits those banks ask about your transactions. But i don't think bitcoin can stop bad debts.
bitcoin may not stop bad debt ,but habits can stop bad debt , it is common for bitcoin or fiat or any currency , if you are on debt first control the spending . and also you need to work for some jobs to get rid of that . first thing is to clear the debt with which are having high interest rate .Calculate income and outcome .
Bitcoin is just another type of currency or payment option and it cannot change human behavior. The world economy are being fueled and stimulated by debt, and the governments knows this. They are building a fake empire on a bunch of debt, and this foundation will soon collapse, bringing the whole economy down with it.
They can shift this debt to Bitcoin based technologies too, without having to make too many changes to the Blockchain, and if they do, we would be in the exact same place. ^hmmmm^
They can shift this debt to Bitcoin based technologies too, without having to make too many changes to the Blockchain, and if they do, we would be in the exact same place. ^hmmmm^
With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
Bitcoin can't stop the debts, you must need to understand about your word. debt's about the someone needs. and that is natural. if you wanna stopping debts maybe you can offer your bitcoin for free into the people is need a money and your will prevent them to asking about debts. 
not all people borrows money or borrows bitcoin, and i think if people not just borrows money and bitcoin, they can exchange their bitcoin if they have much into their money currency so they can start to saving. like my friends, he started on business with bitcoin, he buy and sell bitcoin, and while he get much bitcoin and the rate bitcoin-usd is high, he sell his bitcoin and he do saving on his banks, and now he can build home for his family.
Bitcoin could be used as a store of value if fiat has high inflation or the banks have a risk of closing. In this way, it can be beneficial for countries with financial issues.
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