Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? - page 25.

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Quote from: goldcoinminer on August 25, 2016, 03:18:56 AM

I will not call gambling as a high risk investment when you are putting your money in the sites bankroll, for me since the reality is the house always wins that would already give you a big chance to gain profit from your investment. The only risk there is when unfortunate things happen that the site you invested will scam you.

Then it's still considered as high risk investment.

Any active investment as long as you don't hold your money considered as high risk investment. Even trading in popular bitcoin exchanges today is a high risk investment since you are not sure how the things will goes by as you don't hold your money.

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Well yes it can be considered an investment and because its high risk that's why its also a very risky one.

Basically any types of stock or forex trades can be considered high risk investments also if you don't know what you are doing,.

no it is not , gambling and investment are pretty much different ,
you can not compare it and consider gambling as high risk investment ,
in gambling you will not receive your capital back if you lost but investment you can still expect to get your capital back ,
for me gambling and investment are different at ll.

Op clarify things that although gamblings is not investment, but as i see that gambling is very at high risk option for us to do since we can lost big money from it if we insist to gamble eventhough we are about to lose everythinh we've got and also maybe you should go if you want or anybody wants to invest on casino eventhough it is risky but this thing would provably can generate us money since house most get the wins at all.

i know more likely he means a HYIP (High-Yield Investment Program) services ,
and its actually an investment with high chance to lose money instead just high risk ,
as most of HYIP services run for nothing , and not pay for a single person ,
it's not gambling nor investment for me .

What?? do you see OP asking for hyip investment? I think your opinion is wrong in OP's inquiry, and provably he wants to ask and get more ideas about bitcoins casino's investment and no hyip involvement as stated, but i agree on your thoughs about those shitty hyips because it will steal your money just the same doing of other who turned scam already.

Maybe try to suggest that can be usefull to ops question so he can get more proper ideas that can enlightened him about gambling by himseld or to invest since all of them have risk but in different ways since to gamble is you are the one who risking by your own skill and to invest is just waiting for miracle and earn if the house will win.

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I will not call gambling as a high risk investment when you are putting your money in the sites bankroll, for me since the reality is the house always wins that would already give you a big chance to gain profit from your investment. The only risk there is when unfortunate things happen that the site you invested will scam you.

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Quote from: TheFinalGroup on August 25, 2016, 02:39:40 AM

but you can start your investments gambling, i mean, gambling gives you the opportunity to make $100 to $1000 and then change your investment type.

Indeed it's something that can be done in the investment. But we should also be able to do self control in gambling, because investment in gambling is far more dangerous and risky than other investments. Keep yourself and never greedy when investing in gambling.

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Quote from: poordeveloper on August 23, 2016, 07:22:57 PM

I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

its is only the game of luck ...not investment

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Considered!?!?! Gambling is high risk investment, and there is no doubt in that! Only in case someone told you about outcomes of the games then its not risky, but its cheating. Here we come to morality of casinos, are they fair or not. Do they cheat us or not.. many questions regarding this area, but definitely its very risky to gamb, that is why everyone says never go all in,don't invest in casino more then you can afford to lose.

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but you can start your investments gambling, i mean, gambling gives you the opportunity to make $100 to $1000 and then change your investment type.

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Quote from: ubitcoin on August 25, 2016, 01:02:37 AM

How a gambling activity could be an investment. I may agree gambling is to be considered as a "high risk entertainment". Yes, it has all the risk to swallow all of our bankroll. If we gambling like to get returns from gambling then, that must be a foolish mistake, many gambler learn that from their own costly actions. Do not go gamble. If you still go, gamble without any investments. Gamble to gamble the entertainments of gambling games.

I really agree with it, gambling is not an investment , rather as a "high risk entertainment", because we do not get the clarity of our funds to gamble

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How a gambling activity could be an investment. I may agree gambling is to be considered as a "high risk entertainment". Yes, it has all the risk to swallow all of our bankroll. If we gambling like to get returns from gambling then, that must be a foolish mistake, many gambler learn that from their own costly actions. Do not go gamble. If you still go, gamble without any investments. Gamble to gamble the entertainments of gambling games.

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Quote from: adaseb on August 24, 2016, 01:08:56 AM

Well yes it can be considered an investment and because its high risk that's why its also a very risky one.

Basically any types of stock or forex trades can be considered high risk investments also if you don't know what you are doing,.

no it is not , gambling and investment are pretty much different ,
you can not compare it and consider gambling as high risk investment ,
in gambling you will not receive your capital back if you lost but investment you can still expect to get your capital back ,
for me gambling and investment are different at ll.

Op clarify things that although gamblings is not investment, but as i see that gambling is very at high risk option for us to do since we can lost big money from it if we insist to gamble eventhough we are about to lose everythinh we've got and also maybe you should go if you want or anybody wants to invest on casino eventhough it is risky but this thing would provably can generate us money since house most get the wins at all.

i know more likely he means a HYIP (High-Yield Investment Program) services ,
and its actually an investment with high chance to lose money instead just high risk ,
as most of HYIP services run for nothing , and not pay for a single person ,
it's not gambling nor investment for me .

How can you be so sure that is HYIP? I think OP just want to invest on gambling site but need to know if it is really safe or not since it is gambling so I think it will be high risk investment though, although you are opening site it will just still high risk because with high risk to earn huge amount

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Quote from: Galer on August 24, 2016, 06:58:17 PM

Im think gambling is considered as a high risk investment you didn't know if your win lose and its depend on the outcome of the game.Its simple dont hope a big profit in gambling you can considered as for fun only or to entertain you.

Well it must not be considered as high risk investment, because it is really a high risk type of investment. Especially if you don't know how to win by luck.

But there are two types on how you are going to invest in gambling, it's either you are going to be a gambler or investor.

And I think investor is the safe ones to invest on it even it has high risk.

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Quote from: adibe on August 24, 2016, 08:10:46 PM

I think yes, gambling be considered a high risk investment. Because in investment also have a risk but not so high but in gambling it's really high risk because you can easily lose and double your money.

Yeaaa gambling could considered as a high risk investment, a short term investment exactly.
When a real investment usually have a long term with tiny profit .
And gambling have a short time to collect your profit and also it has bigger multiplier compared to real investment.

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I think yes, gambling be considered a high risk investment. Because in investment also have a risk but not so high but in gambling it's really high risk because you can easily lose and double your money.

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Im think gambling is considered as a high risk investment you didn't know if your win lose and its depend on the outcome of the game.Its simple dont hope a big profit in gambling you can considered as for fun only or to entertain you.

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 24, 2016, 04:53:36 AM

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Quote from: adaseb on August 24, 2016, 01:08:56 AM

Well yes it can be considered an investment and because its high risk that's why its also a very risky one.

Basically any types of stock or forex trades can be considered high risk investments also if you don't know what you are doing,.

no it is not , gambling and investment are pretty much different ,
you can not compare it and consider gambling as high risk investment ,
in gambling you will not receive your capital back if you lost but investment you can still expect to get your capital back ,
for me gambling and investment are different at ll.

Op clarify things that although gamblings is not investment, but as i see that gambling is very at high risk option for us to do since we can lost big money from it if we insist to gamble eventhough we are about to lose everythinh we've got and also maybe you should go if you want or anybody wants to invest on casino eventhough it is risky but this thing would provably can generate us money since house most get the wins at all.

i know more likely he means a HYIP (High-Yield Investment Program) services ,
and its actually an investment with high chance to lose money instead just high risk ,
as most of HYIP services run for nothing , and not pay for a single person ,
it's not gambling nor investment for me .

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Gambing could be considered an investment only for gambling site holder. Gambler are loser 99 time over 100 Cool

I don't think its 99% are losers but maybe more like 90-95%. There are some people with risk management that do produce a profit but most people are losers and the casinos profit off them.

I agree with you, because there are gamblers using management of money and risk when play gambling (include me). Although it is not warrant we can not lost our money, but it is just for control our money on gambling.

Well, gambling is not only Sport bet or Dice, but Lottery and scratch & win too, and there you couldn't apply any kind of money management or strategy.

I think except sports betting and poker games, We not see any other games are skilled base game. All games in gambling are risk. But suppose if we have luck means we will make some profit. But making a profit in gambling is not easy. So putting money in gambling is high-risk investment.

thats true, thats why bitcoin gambling is not an investment at all, it is just wasting money in my opinion without any reward

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Quote from: ~Bitcoin~ on August 24, 2016, 01:07:22 PM

I think gambling is not an investment its like addiction and chance of lossing is very high and as it is addictive even you won at start but at last you will end of lossing all you have in start + whatever you have won in between.

yeah investment aren't addictive as gambling , too much things that couldn't compared between gambling and investment so i wouldn't call or considering gambling as a high risk investment, gambling are just gambling .

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Since investing is kind of like gambling, then yes, I would consider gambling a high-risk 'investment'. People need to remember that you can easily lose any investment you put into any company.

I would much rather 'invest' in my own business than someone else's though. Plant a hybrid fruit tree in your yard, wait 3 years for it to fruit, and wallah, you have free fruit, saving you money on jellies, pies, and even wine if you're that ambitious. I have gotten about 10lbs off one this year, and I didn't even take care of it well in the past two years (I thought it was pretty much dead and useless).

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It's so 'high-risk' that it shouldn't even be called investment. It just gives investment a bad name if you're gonna call gambling, an investment. It's high-risk alright, but it isn't an investment because you're using your money to play a game, risking it to win more. An investment is when you place your money in a house, leave it there, then wait for your future possible income. Income may vary, but it is there. And unless a huge incident happens(whale wins big [in this case, it can still recover] ,site running) you can be sure of profits.

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Quote from: poordeveloper on August 23, 2016, 07:22:57 PM

I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

In the sense of going "all in" it reflects gambling. Though someone must be very well informed when making a high risk investment. Gambling no one knows. You can't predict gambling but you can with investments. If an investment is bad you won't invest but in gambling you don't know.

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