Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? - page 3.

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Quote from: poordeveloper on August 23, 2016, 08:22:57 PM

I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

To knowing some way (especially gambling) is a kind of high risk investment or not is try to read them. How long you can loose or take profit in that way. And then, how much you can get or lost in some regular time.
Make a rule for your self. Even if it's for gambling, you have to make the point, when is the ROI.

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One thing we all look at before investing into something is the return(profit) and if it satisfying we go ahead and invest. Which means a high investment guarantees a big paycheck so whenever we get to gamble we are expecting a return by paying the price of risk on unpredictable outcome . The result of us not being able to foresee an outcome makes it high risk and really turns out to be the fun part.

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Quote from: ged00u on December 31, 2016, 05:04:42 AM

It is called the house edge. The house always setups the system which makes your chance of winning decrease less than 50%. And the more important thing which causes gambling riskier is your greedy. Players' greedy is the main key lead to the success of casinos. Gambling too much will make you lose more and more and more. It is hard to beat the house even you are a master in gambling

Yes that is also a fact but it’s not so far and if the house are engage in such kind of activities then they are using unfair mean, and that cannot be tolerated, I think you should try to find such site or casino where the house edge factor should not be there or at least be minimum levels.

Its the way for them to take some edge against the players so those gamblers who engaged longer time are the one whos possible to lose bigger the moment we played against the house they already get this house edge for their profits so better to think wiser before playing.

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Quote from: ged00u on December 31, 2016, 05:04:42 AM

It is called the house edge. The house always setups the system which makes your chance of winning decrease less than 50%. And the more important thing which causes gambling riskier is your greedy. Players' greedy is the main key lead to the success of casinos. Gambling too much will make you lose more and more and more. It is hard to beat the house even you are a master in gambling

Yes that is also a fact but it’s not so far and if the house are engage in such kind of activities then they are using unfair mean, and that cannot be tolerated, I think you should try to find such site or casino where the house edge factor should not be there or at least be minimum levels.

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Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

So I came from another world because I'm treating gambling as an investment? Why I won't if that is the fact and casino's are looking for those people who are willing to invest into their bankroll casino's. Even though we are talking about gambling, you don't have to be a gambler that plays all day long and make it your investment, you can just simply invest and deposit there and treat gambling as your own personal investment.

different points of view the only matter is how we can earn from our investment so no matter what way it is as long as we can earn some money from that way we will be able to enjoy, as we all knew that theirs something that we can't see but others manage to earn from this type of system. just be very resourceful and research to learn more.

That's right, because he is just looking upon on one part of gambling and that's with the negative part. No doubt that many gamblers that has extensive knowledge are able to earn that much money in gambling because they know how to invest and use gambling in a profitable way. Even though the risk cannot be removed, still invest at your own risk. Because not all the time casino's are earning that much if you're an investor.

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Quote from: poordeveloper on August 23, 2016, 08:22:57 PM

I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

Actually gambling is a game of 99% risk of money loss garranty . So here is not a matter to consider gambling as a high risk investment . And in investment we have the history of the investment foundation wether he is paying or not but in gambling everything is for loss .

Even though gambling has 99% chance for losing your money, there is still 1 % chance you could be rich from gambling, and there are few lucky apeople who successfully reach that. Gambling will considered a "high risk investment" if we invested our money and set to max kelly in a gambling site (IMO)

I think we should not put our money in risk only for 1% of winning chance, we should only play gambling up to the limit we can afford to lose, actually we should erase the possibility of making huge amount of money from gambling because it is not so easy to make money from gambling.

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Quote from: olushakes on January 02, 2017, 04:29:23 AM

Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

So I came from another world because I'm treating gambling as an investment? Why I won't if that is the fact and casino's are looking for those people who are willing to invest into their bankroll casino's. Even though we are talking about gambling, you don't have to be a gambler that plays all day long and make it your investment, you can just simply invest and deposit there and treat gambling as your own personal investment.

different points of view the only matter is how we can earn from our investment so no matter what way it is as long as we can earn some money from that way we will be able to enjoy, as we all knew that theirs something that we can't see but others manage to earn from this type of system. just be very resourceful and research to learn more.

Yeah i think that's a good point. It's how you look at gambling as an investment. If you put funds to it and gamble with it then, i agree that it's not a very wise thing to do and i don't consider that as investment as well. But if you put you money with the house, invest in casino stocks, or put up your own gambling house or gambling site, then with a lot of gamblers readily willing to burn money, you're putting in a very good investment for your money.

But for earning of owner and the investors someone have to come to gamble suppose if no one will gamble then how will the house earn money all the casinos will be left as empty houses. Gamblers are also needed to earn from investment.

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Quote from: Kolder on December 26, 2016, 03:56:22 AM

Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.

yes no doubt about that that there is always involve risk in gambling but it depend on your bet if you put high bet then there is high risk but the winning amount will also be much more as compare to low bet.

I think there are so many other factors also involved to this concern, like it depends on your way of gambling you play, your experience also matter there, your skill and your luck also responsible for that. So, I think not only gambling but trading and investment can also be consider as high risk investment .

All of it has a high risk even a real business also have high risk and I don't agree with your words that skills can be applied in gambling because in gambling only luck that can make you win.

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Quote from: bitbob82 on December 28, 2016, 03:06:16 AM

Quote from: Kolder on December 26, 2016, 03:56:22 AM

Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.

yes no doubt about that that there is always involve risk in gambling but it depend on your bet if you put high bet then there is high risk but the winning amount will also be much more as compare to low bet.

I think there are so many other factors also involved to this concern, like it depends on your way of gambling you play, your experience also matter there, your skill and your luck also responsible for that. So, I think not only gambling but trading and investment can also be consider as high risk investment .

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Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.

It is depending on your investment, if you are investing a large amont then surely the risk is high and if you are going to invest a small amount then there is low risk, but the fact is that risk is always involve not only in gambling but in all types of trading also.

yes but it also depend on your experience if you have good experience of gambling then you can minimize the risk in gambling as there are some games where you can use your experience to get succeeded.

However, making money in gambling is not easy as we think. It involves skills and experience to succeed, you can tell that by yourself if you have a future with gambling because you are the one that is playing and you can always track your record, but be honest with yourself as that is the biggest mistake most gamblers are making.

It's easy if you already expert and have experienced on gambling in 3-5 years and having big amount of money to gambling. I mean, gambling is a high risk investment and when you have big amount of money, you can reduce the risk, because you can easily doubling your bet if you lose.

Yes of course, because gambling is take a high risk investment, because it can cause a damage in your future especially in the family coz u having a big amount of money to that games.better to stop that game in order to save your money and for the future of your family you never succed in gambling.

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No one in their right mind would consider gambling as an investment or even as a "high risk investment", but many people do think that investing in the bankroll is something totally different and thus could be less risky and profitable in the long run. Well, I'd say this is no Apple Inc., so even investing in the bankroll is very risky, but at least yes, we can all it a "high risk investment".

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Quote from: Golftech on January 02, 2017, 06:28:29 AM

Quote from: bhadz on January 02, 2017, 04:40:45 AM

Quote from: olushakes on January 02, 2017, 04:29:23 AM

Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

So I came from another world because I'm treating gambling as an investment? Why I won't if that is the fact and casino's are looking for those people who are willing to invest into their bankroll casino's. Even though we are talking about gambling, you don't have to be a gambler that plays all day long and make it your investment, you can just simply invest and deposit there and treat gambling as your own personal investment.

different points of view the only matter is how we can earn from our investment so no matter what way it is as long as we can earn some money from that way we will be able to enjoy, as we all knew that theirs something that we can't see but others manage to earn from this type of system. just be very resourceful and research to learn more.

Yeah i think that's a good point. It's how you look at gambling as an investment. If you put funds to it and gamble with it then, i agree that it's not a very wise thing to do and i don't consider that as investment as well. But if you put you money with the house, invest in casino stocks, or put up your own gambling house or gambling site, then with a lot of gamblers readily willing to burn money, you're putting in a very good investment for your money.

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Quote from: bhadz on January 02, 2017, 04:40:45 AM

Quote from: olushakes on January 02, 2017, 04:29:23 AM

Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

So I came from another world because I'm treating gambling as an investment? Why I won't if that is the fact and casino's are looking for those people who are willing to invest into their bankroll casino's. Even though we are talking about gambling, you don't have to be a gambler that plays all day long and make it your investment, you can just simply invest and deposit there and treat gambling as your own personal investment.

different points of view the only matter is how we can earn from our investment so no matter what way it is as long as we can earn some money from that way we will be able to enjoy, as we all knew that theirs something that we can't see but others manage to earn from this type of system. just be very resourceful and research to learn more.

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Quote from: olushakes on January 02, 2017, 04:29:23 AM

Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

So I came from another world because I'm treating gambling as an investment? Why I won't if that is the fact and casino's are looking for those people who are willing to invest into their bankroll casino's. Even though we are talking about gambling, you don't have to be a gambler that plays all day long and make it your investment, you can just simply invest and deposit there and treat gambling as your own personal investment.

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Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

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Quote from: wuvdoll on December 30, 2016, 06:08:21 PM

Quote from: Kolder on December 26, 2016, 03:56:22 AM

Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.

It is depending on your investment, if you are investing a large amont then surely the risk is high and if you are going to invest a small amount then there is low risk, but the fact is that risk is always involve not only in gambling but in all types of trading also.

yes but it also depend on your experience if you have good experience of gambling then you can minimize the risk in gambling as there are some games where you can use your experience to get succeeded.

However, making money in gambling is not easy as we think. It involves skills and experience to succeed, you can tell that by yourself if you have a future with gambling because you are the one that is playing and you can always track your record, but be honest with yourself as that is the biggest mistake most gamblers are making.

It's easy if you already expert and have experienced on gambling in 3-5 years and having big amount of money to gambling. I mean, gambling is a high risk investment and when you have big amount of money, you can reduce the risk, because you can easily doubling your bet if you lose.

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Quote from: wuvdoll on December 30, 2016, 06:08:21 PM

Quote from: Kolder on December 26, 2016, 03:56:22 AM

Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.

It is depending on your investment, if you are investing a large amont then surely the risk is high and if you are going to invest a small amount then there is low risk, but the fact is that risk is always involve not only in gambling but in all types of trading also.

yes but it also depend on your experience if you have good experience of gambling then you can minimize the risk in gambling as there are some games where you can use your experience to get succeeded.

However, making money in gambling is not easy as we think. It involves skills and experience to succeed, you can tell that by yourself if you have a future with gambling because you are the one that is playing and you can always track your record, but be honest with yourself as that is the biggest mistake most gamblers are making.

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Quote from: wuvdoll on December 30, 2016, 06:08:21 PM

Quote from: Kolder on December 26, 2016, 03:56:22 AM

Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.

It is depending on your investment, if you are investing a large amont then surely the risk is high and if you are going to invest a small amount then there is low risk, but the fact is that risk is always involve not only in gambling but in all types of trading also.

yes but it also depend on your experience if you have good experience of gambling then you can minimize the risk in gambling as there are some games where you can use your experience to get succeeded.

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Quote from: BitFinnese on January 01, 2017, 03:55:53 PM

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Quote from: poordeveloper on August 23, 2016, 08:22:57 PM

I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

There are many gambling sites that offering investment from their bankroll, I think the words "high risk investment" is if you directly invest in the gambling site but if you only play then the words "high risk investment" is not right, just like other said gambling is only game that we have play with money involve.

Nope I think it is the other way around, if the site is legit and trustworthy. There is more risk in playing in a Casino than investing in it. Just check the odds and probability of winning. According to the percentage, House have higher chance of winning, meaning if you invested in a Casino, there is more chance that you will earn profit than playing in it.

You have a point but according to other reviews about investing for different gambling casino there is gambling site that actually not giving you a good profit instead it can drain your investment gradually.. so it is still better to test your investment in many different gambling casino and choose after you reviewed you can disable or stop investing when you are experience of losing and stay enable your investment where you are making good profit.. i heard that betking is one of the site that can gives you good profit..

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Quote from: BALIK on January 01, 2017, 03:16:43 PM

Quote from: poordeveloper on August 23, 2016, 08:22:57 PM

I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

There are many gambling sites that offering investment from their bankroll, I think the words "high risk investment" is if you directly invest in the gambling site but if you only play then the words "high risk investment" is not right, just like other said gambling is only game that we have play with money involve.

Nope I think it is the other way around, if the site is legit and trustworthy. There is more risk in playing in a Casino than investing in it. Just check the odds and probability of winning. According to the percentage, House have higher chance of winning, meaning if you invested in a Casino, there is more chance that you will earn profit than playing in it.

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