Can gambling be profitable in long term ? - page 21.

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No gambling can never be profitable in long term as if you continue to gamble then you will surely be loosing all the money you have won so far so the best thing would be to quit gambling at a right time when you have won good amount of money.

I do not think also we can make a profit in a long time because if you win in a day of gambling, it will be very hard to earn the next day, so we should see it as entertainment, if you see it as a profession, you both praise yourself and your money.

Gambling is profitable for short time because if you bet and win you have profit in that instant. There is no assurance that you can win every bet because gambling is about winning and losing. I do not think that it is possible to get profit in gambling for long time. Every player must set limitations on the amount to bet and must control oneself in time of winning even losing.

The more riskier it is, the more gain it has - this is so true with gambling where the risk is really quite high but if you win, you will going to win quite high as well in just a short period of time.

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Quote from: matthona on August 10, 2017, 01:36:13 AM

No gambling can never be profitable in long term as if you continue to gamble then you will surely be loosing all the money you have won so far so the best thing would be to quit gambling at a right time when you have won good amount of money.

I do not think also we can make a profit in a long time because if you win in a day of gambling, it will be very hard to earn the next day, so we should see it as entertainment, if you see it as a profession, you both praise yourself and your money.

Gambling is profitable for short time because if you bet and win you have profit in that instant. There is no assurance that you can win every bet because gambling is about winning and losing. I do not think that it is possible to get profit in gambling for long time. Every player must set limitations on the amount to bet and must control oneself in time of winning even losing.

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Quote from: Sale_man on August 13, 2017, 07:15:13 PM

If you build an experience in a game that do not depend 100% on luck i think gambling would be very profitable. Experience is useful and helpful in some games.

It will be profitable in a way that you will know how to apply those skills. And it will be helpful if you have some experience with it.
But playing alone won't be beneficial you just have to know on how you can get some referrals and invest into a casino.

I am not focus in referrals as I know it would not gonna give me a good income, I focus on developing my skills in order to win just like the professionals do. However, I have to ensure I set a limit to myself as I do not want to compromise the money that I will be needed to use in trading, with two different activities it requires separate money and if I cannot make it in gambling at least I can grow my money in trading.

It's just a choice if you think that you can't go with the skills in gambling.
Then that is just a choice that you can go, getting some referrals and letting those people deposit with the casino and profit will just come to you.

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Quote from: terrific on August 14, 2017, 01:45:08 AM

It will be profitable in a way that you will know how to apply those skills. And it will be helpful if you have some experience with it.
But playing alone won't be beneficial you just have to know on how you can get some referrals and invest into a casino.

It wont be profitable as well because the only way for it to be profitable is to invest in a gambling site. I dont see other reason for that but it has been proven. We will get profit in the long term b3cause there are house edge and as long as the site runs, there will always be profit for us

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Quote from: Sale_man on August 13, 2017, 07:15:13 PM

If you build an experience in a game that do not depend 100% on luck i think gambling would be very profitable. Experience is useful and helpful in some games.

It will be profitable in a way that you will know how to apply those skills. And it will be helpful if you have some experience with it.
But playing alone won't be beneficial you just have to know on how you can get some referrals and invest into a casino.

I am not focus in referrals as I know it would not gonna give me a good income, I focus on developing my skills in order to win just like the professionals do. However, I have to ensure I set a limit to myself as I do not want to compromise the money that I will be needed to use in trading, with two different activities it requires separate money and if I cannot make it in gambling at least I can grow my money in trading.

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Quote from: Sale_man on August 13, 2017, 07:15:13 PM

If you build an experience in a game that do not depend 100% on luck i think gambling would be very profitable. Experience is useful and helpful in some games.

It will be profitable in a way that you will know how to apply those skills. And it will be helpful if you have some experience with it.
But playing alone won't be beneficial you just have to know on how you can get some referrals and invest into a casino.

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Quote from: Sale_man on August 13, 2017, 07:15:13 PM

If you build an experience in a game that do not depend 100% on luck i think gambling would be very profitable. Experience is useful and helpful in some games.

I don't believe that there is a game that doesn't require luck in a way, I don't know, or I'm just not thinking hard. Everything comes to luck, but I don't believe that you can measure it and how you obtain it. Some people do some rituals in order to increase their so called luck, and I don't agree with that knowing that it can't be measured.

Everything requires luck, even if it is just so pure skill based like soccer game. If you are not lucky then even if you have all the skills and experience like a football player , you will still not be able to score any goals at all. In conclusion if it is EV- or even EV+ it still requires luck to be profitable in the long term

Right, there is really still involves a luck factor but with the skill set you are going to possess, you have more chances of having a winning trades than a losing one versus there is no even chances because of the house ede advantage.

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Quote from: Sale_man on August 13, 2017, 07:15:13 PM

If you build an experience in a game that do not depend 100% on luck i think gambling would be very profitable. Experience is useful and helpful in some games.

I don't believe that there is a game that doesn't require luck in a way, I don't know, or I'm just not thinking hard. Everything comes to luck, but I don't believe that you can measure it and how you obtain it. Some people do some rituals in order to increase their so called luck, and I don't agree with that knowing that it can't be measured.

Everything requires luck, even if it is just so pure skill based like soccer game. If you are not lucky then even if you have all the skills and experience like a football player , you will still not be able to score any goals at all. In conclusion if it is EV- or even EV+ it still requires luck to be profitable in the long term

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Quote from: Sale_man on August 13, 2017, 07:15:13 PM

If you build an experience in a game that do not depend 100% on luck i think gambling would be very profitable. Experience is useful and helpful in some games.

I don't believe that there is a game that doesn't require luck in a way, I don't know, or I'm just not thinking hard. Everything comes to luck, but I don't believe that you can measure it and how you obtain it. Some people do some rituals in order to increase their so called luck, and I don't agree with that knowing that it can't be measured.

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Gambling can not be profitable in the short or long term. They can only lead to a loss of funds if you try to earn or receive pleasure if you look at them as entertainment.

I agree and I think gambling should be kept as a mode of entertainment and not the mode of earning money. Thus the players would not play in a serious manner and thus their losses will be minimum. If one thinks of gambling to be a mode of making money then they will get addicted to it and as soon as they lose some money they will try to win it back and thus they will continue to gamble.

Nobody is okay with losing his capital even in entertainment. I bet you can't also. In gambling either one is serious or ignorant, victory and defeat is just a matter of luck in fact and frequent loss is not welcomed by anyone. As far as its addiction is concerned, if someone keeps on doing something, that becomes his habit in no time and habits are difficult to push off certainly.

I think you are getting it all wrong - there cannot be any investment in an entertainment. If you are going to get entertained then there is a fees required. That is not an investment and you will not be getting it back in any form with or without interest. Gambling should be kept to a mode of entertainment and not as mode to earn money - that is all I was saying.

As far as I know we can invest in an entertainment - this time not a player but an investor with the casinos. There are also other forms of entertainment where we can invest to it as well - some bars, clubs, and the like.

That is a totally different thing and investing in a casino bankroll is profitable in the long run surely. It is a long term investment even though the return is small if you dont have a huge money to invest in. However gambling itself is not at all profitable for the players - thus it is profitable for the casino investors. The players who are addicted will keep on playing and thus the investors keep on gaining profits.

Yeah, said truly! Everyone knows that gambling is pure luck and cannot produce long term profits. Most of the gamblers end up coming up against defeat. Also in this process they lose all of their wealth. On the other hand, investing in casinos will definitely give investor long term profits because the gamblers become addicted and the business keeps on growing.

Just want to point out that not all gamblers ended up losing everything - of course there are some sharks that are really good gamblers. Not to mention games that involve skills like poker is an example of game that does not 100% rely on pure luck.

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That also does not means that you are winning. This can be selective evidence. On the other hand, it is very easy to have this kind of results if you have a big bankroll. However, even months of winning does not provide that you can win in the long run, all it takes is just one bad run and all your previous earning is gone.

It is true and there is a challenge for us to position ourselves when the rotation feels impartial to us,
All need time and a positive response.
Think of a high-level gambler

But everything is not as we define it. When we immediately gamble just what we have planned to keep reversing with the existing circumstances. Because the longer we sit at the gambling table our minds will get out of control and make all the planning in the stacking into chaos

Even with bankroll management it is still hard to earn profit steady in the long run.
There will always a time where you get stuck , lost bigger and deeper instead profitable.
As gambling always lead people into negativity , that is what i know and i believe so far.

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If you build an experience in a game that do not depend 100% on luck i think gambling would be very profitable. Experience is useful and helpful in some games.

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Quote from: coolkiller on September 22, 2015, 04:16:01 AM

If someone which follows the set of rules and be discipline enoff. Can people make 50-100 $ a day just gambling in online casino.....?

I think it is just a chance to make that kind of money in gambling, hello it is gambling it is just a possibility to win. Maybe we lose or maybe we win. We cannot say how lucky you are in gambling. It is a very risky move if you want to gain profit on a gambling site. Better be a wise man when making decisions. Just do gambling as a entertainment or pass time. But it is up to you. For me it is a no, you cannot make that money a day, sometimes maybebut bot everyday.

in my opinion if the mneginginkan gain in gambling sites then this is very risky because gambling had will always take you on your good fortune. mmerasakan will also be loss, you should investaskan your money so that it would be profitable in the future profit may be due later will guarantee your life

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Quote from: lexamagic on August 09, 2017, 07:11:19 AM

Gambling can not be profitable in the short or long term. They can only lead to a loss of funds if you try to earn or receive pleasure if you look at them as entertainment.

I agree and I think gambling should be kept as a mode of entertainment and not the mode of earning money. Thus the players would not play in a serious manner and thus their losses will be minimum. If one thinks of gambling to be a mode of making money then they will get addicted to it and as soon as they lose some money they will try to win it back and thus they will continue to gamble.

Nobody is okay with losing his capital even in entertainment. I bet you can't also. In gambling either one is serious or ignorant, victory and defeat is just a matter of luck in fact and frequent loss is not welcomed by anyone. As far as its addiction is concerned, if someone keeps on doing something, that becomes his habit in no time and habits are difficult to push off certainly.

I think you are getting it all wrong - there cannot be any investment in an entertainment. If you are going to get entertained then there is a fees required. That is not an investment and you will not be getting it back in any form with or without interest. Gambling should be kept to a mode of entertainment and not as mode to earn money - that is all I was saying.

As far as I know we can invest in an entertainment - this time not a player but an investor with the casinos. There are also other forms of entertainment where we can invest to it as well - some bars, clubs, and the like.

That is a totally different thing and investing in a casino bankroll is profitable in the long run surely. It is a long term investment even though the return is small if you dont have a huge money to invest in. However gambling itself is not at all profitable for the players - thus it is profitable for the casino investors. The players who are addicted will keep on playing and thus the investors keep on gaining profits.

Yeah, said truly! Everyone knows that gambling is pure luck and cannot produce long term profits. Most of the gamblers end up coming up against defeat. Also in this process they lose all of their wealth. On the other hand, investing in casinos will definitely give investor long term profits because the gamblers become addicted and the business keeps on growing.

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Quote from: lexamagic on August 09, 2017, 07:11:19 AM

Gambling can not be profitable in the short or long term. They can only lead to a loss of funds if you try to earn or receive pleasure if you look at them as entertainment.

I agree and I think gambling should be kept as a mode of entertainment and not the mode of earning money. Thus the players would not play in a serious manner and thus their losses will be minimum. If one thinks of gambling to be a mode of making money then they will get addicted to it and as soon as they lose some money they will try to win it back and thus they will continue to gamble.

Nobody is okay with losing his capital even in entertainment. I bet you can't also. In gambling either one is serious or ignorant, victory and defeat is just a matter of luck in fact and frequent loss is not welcomed by anyone. As far as its addiction is concerned, if someone keeps on doing something, that becomes his habit in no time and habits are difficult to push off certainly.

I think you are getting it all wrong - there cannot be any investment in an entertainment. If you are going to get entertained then there is a fees required. That is not an investment and you will not be getting it back in any form with or without interest. Gambling should be kept to a mode of entertainment and not as mode to earn money - that is all I was saying.

As far as I know we can invest in an entertainment - this time not a player but an investor with the casinos. There are also other forms of entertainment where we can invest to it as well - some bars, clubs, and the like.

That is a totally different thing and investing in a casino bankroll is profitable in the long run surely. It is a long term investment even though the return is small if you dont have a huge money to invest in. However gambling itself is not at all profitable for the players - thus it is profitable for the casino investors. The players who are addicted will keep on playing and thus the investors keep on gaining profits.

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Quote from: lorylore on July 16, 2017, 06:45:05 AM

That also does not means that you are winning. This can be selective evidence. On the other hand, it is very easy to have this kind of results if you have a big bankroll. However, even months of winning does not provide that you can win in the long run, all it takes is just one bad run and all your previous earning is gone.

It is true and there is a challenge for us to position ourselves when the rotation feels impartial to us,
All need time and a positive response.
Think of a high-level gambler

But everything is not as we define it. When we immediately gamble just what we have planned to keep reversing with the existing circumstances. Because the longer we sit at the gambling table our minds will get out of control and make all the planning in the stacking into chaos

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Quote from: coolkiller on September 22, 2015, 04:16:01 AM

If someone which follows the set of rules and be discipline enoff. Can people make 50-100 $ a day just gambling in online casino.....?

I think it is just a chance to make that kind of money in gambling, hello it is gambling it is just a possibility to win. Maybe we lose or maybe we win. We cannot say how lucky you are in gambling. It is a very risky move if you want to gain profit on a gambling site. Better be a wise man when making decisions. Just do gambling as a entertainment or pass time. But it is up to you. For me it is a no, you cannot make that money a day, sometimes maybebut bot everyday.

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Quote from: Cherylstar86 on August 11, 2017, 04:26:59 PM

If we are talking the whole idea of gambling here it's not all related to entertainment most of the time, people who had bigger investments doesn't take gambling activities is for fun, but it's a big deal for them and they're agressive to win for money. Good for those who haven't addicted yet, but for those every situation is a chance for them to win.

Everyone is aggresive to win some money but some people just keep on classifying it as an entertainment. The main reason that people say why they could be having fun is that because they could win some money otherwise it wont really be entertaining as of now. If it is just a token or play , most people will just skip it

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Quote from: lexamagic on August 09, 2017, 07:11:19 AM

Gambling can not be profitable in the short or long term. They can only lead to a loss of funds if you try to earn or receive pleasure if you look at them as entertainment.

I agree and I think gambling should be kept as a mode of entertainment and not the mode of earning money. Thus the players would not play in a serious manner and thus their losses will be minimum. If one thinks of gambling to be a mode of making money then they will get addicted to it and as soon as they lose some money they will try to win it back and thus they will continue to gamble.

Nobody is okay with losing his capital even in entertainment. I bet you can't also. In gambling either one is serious or ignorant, victory and defeat is just a matter of luck in fact and frequent loss is not welcomed by anyone. As far as its addiction is concerned, if someone keeps on doing something, that becomes his habit in no time and habits are difficult to push off certainly.

I think you are getting it all wrong - there cannot be any investment in an entertainment. If you are going to get entertained then there is a fees required. That is not an investment and you will not be getting it back in any form with or without interest. Gambling should be kept to a mode of entertainment and not as mode to earn money - that is all I was saying.

As far as I know we can invest in an entertainment - this time not a player but an investor with the casinos. There are also other forms of entertainment where we can invest to it as well - some bars, clubs, and the like.

Pretty good idea to invest in an entertainment and I like the way you look at things. You have taken this conversation to a whole different level. A business mind! For those who think of this an entertainment, then this entertainment includes defeat and victory. And who wants to face defeat. Who likes to be a loser? Its not like other entertainments like watching movies where people spend their idle time without getting the tag 'LOZER' .. getting the picture Funlovers?!

If we are talking the whole idea of gambling here it's not all related to entertainment most of the time, people who had bigger investments doesn't take gambling activities is for fun, but it's a big deal for them and they're agressive to win for money. Good for those who haven't addicted yet, but for those every situation is a chance for them to win.

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Quote from: lexamagic on August 09, 2017, 07:11:19 AM

Gambling can not be profitable in the short or long term. They can only lead to a loss of funds if you try to earn or receive pleasure if you look at them as entertainment.

I agree and I think gambling should be kept as a mode of entertainment and not the mode of earning money. Thus the players would not play in a serious manner and thus their losses will be minimum. If one thinks of gambling to be a mode of making money then they will get addicted to it and as soon as they lose some money they will try to win it back and thus they will continue to gamble.

Nobody is okay with losing his capital even in entertainment. I bet you can't also. In gambling either one is serious or ignorant, victory and defeat is just a matter of luck in fact and frequent loss is not welcomed by anyone. As far as its addiction is concerned, if someone keeps on doing something, that becomes his habit in no time and habits are difficult to push off certainly.

I think you are getting it all wrong - there cannot be any investment in an entertainment. If you are going to get entertained then there is a fees required. That is not an investment and you will not be getting it back in any form with or without interest. Gambling should be kept to a mode of entertainment and not as mode to earn money - that is all I was saying.

As far as I know we can invest in an entertainment - this time not a player but an investor with the casinos. There are also other forms of entertainment where we can invest to it as well - some bars, clubs, and the like.

Pretty good idea to invest in an entertainment and I like the way you look at things. You have taken this conversation to a whole different level. A business mind! For those who think of this an entertainment, then this entertainment includes defeat and victory. And who wants to face defeat. Who likes to be a loser? Its not like other entertainments like watching movies where people spend their idle time without getting the tag 'LOZER' .. getting the picture Funlovers?!

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