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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

Yes, they can and I am sure they are doing it all the time and the entity is doing it called as intelligence Bureau. But mostly they won't take actions against those people but they just wait for the opportunity to trap them and that's how many political activist who is against the ruling government is getting arrested or facing other charges too often just to silence them.

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Quote from: Sim_card on February 02, 2024, 12:11:04 PM

It all depends on the gravity of the offense that you committed that will make the government to track you. If the offense is something that is worth tracking you for, then the government will track you, no matter how private you keep your data from the public. It might only take them a long period of time to track you down. However, if you patronize the centralized platform, it wouldn't take them time to track you because they have where they can get your data from, to make it very easy for them. As long as the government carries it upon their head to track you, you will be tracked.

Ironically, those governments where the most of the technological companies are based in (The United States and the European Union) basically collect all the information possible from all their users, so they are already tracked down and then, that information/data is used if necessary.
They do not start to collect that infor action if they need to track someone down, they first track all the people and then focus on those who are relevant to them.
I am sure you may have heard about the case of massive surveillance uncovered by Edward Snowed, PRISM.
Even though the public opinion was very concerned about the way the Government of the USA massively collects information, personal information and messages from us, they continue to do it to this day and not only for commercial purposes. To them it is a matter of national security, about intercepting those they deem to be a threat to the interest of their nation.
In conclusion, we are all already tracked.

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Quote from: oktana on February 01, 2024, 07:44:20 PM

It is very difficult to hide from the government, really difficult because the government is at the top and every other thing is below it. What I mean is that if you’re hiding from the government for whatsoever reason, they can order your service provider to send your coordinates when you make a phone call, it could be the bank that they’d use maybe when you withdraw some money. Or probably when you use your credit card to pay for something? Just know that the government sees everything you’re doing, and trust me, they could tell you a lot about yourself than you ever imagined they could.

True. The governor has a way of digging deep to find a suspect especially when national security is at stake. I hear people say the government cannot trace a person if he is using a decentralized platforms or even the dark Web. This is not true because even the government operates under these decentralized platforms and dark Web to catch suspecting criminals who choose to go anonymous.

I know quite a good number of high skilled criminals who have been apprehended by the government despite their high knowledge of tech. This goes a long way to prove that no one can hide from the government, if they decide to come after you, they will employ all the valuable resources that will be needed to get you.

Therefore, we have to be conscious of what we do both online or offline because we might become too careless and cross the line, then the veil covering our privacy will be removed

Actually. Tracking someone who is hidden under decentralization is difficult and almost impossible depending on the person who is being tracked. Every time we end up using a centralized exchange (for example), we ruin the whole decentralization steps we went through because then, the government can track you. But if you use a decentralized system through out, to the extent that even when you want to trade, you use P2P, then you make it a lot difficult than normal (in that context). But not withstanding, the government somehow has their eyes on you, you just have to be smart too (if need be).

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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

Yes government have different method to track us but don't know about questions is related to which tracking?
They have inserted some tracking materials in in card in our country so any where they can track you according to location. Because location is most important part of finding any one in any place. Often this system is use by security institutions.

The other tracking is with SIM card which is inserted in your mobile phone. They can track you with your mobile which is available with you. The tracking system is very spreading with new tools which can be very advance in future life. So in many ways it's good system if we think.

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It all depends on the gravity of the offense that you committed that will make the government to track you. If the offense is something that is worth tracking you for, then the government will track you, no matter how private you keep your data from the public. It might only take them a long period of time to track you down. However, if you patronize the centralized platform, it wouldn't take them time to track you because they have where they can get your data from, to make it very easy for them. As long as the government carries it upon their head to track you, you will be tracked.

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Quote from: oktana on February 01, 2024, 07:44:20 PM

It is very difficult to hide from the government, really difficult because the government is at the top and every other thing is below it. What I mean is that if you’re hiding from the government for whatsoever reason, they can order your service provider to send your coordinates when you make a phone call, it could be the bank that they’d use maybe when you withdraw some money. Or probably when you use your credit card to pay for something? Just know that the government sees everything you’re doing, and trust me, they could tell you a lot about yourself than you ever imagined they could.

True. The governor has a way of digging deep to find a suspect especially when national security is at stake. I hear people say the government cannot trace a person if he is using a decentralized platforms or even the dark Web. This is not true because even the government operates under these decentralized platforms and dark Web to catch suspecting criminals who choose to go anonymous.

I know quite a good number of high skilled criminals who have been apprehended by the government despite their high knowledge of tech. This goes a long way to prove that no one can hide from the government, if they decide to come after you, they will employ all the valuable resources that will be needed to get you.

Therefore, we have to be conscious of what we do both online or offline because we might become too careless and cross the line, then the veil covering our privacy will be removed

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It is very difficult to hide from the government, really difficult because the government is at the top and every other thing is below it. What I mean is that if you’re hiding from the government for whatsoever reason, they can order your service provider to send your coordinates when you make a phone call, it could be the bank that they’d use maybe when you withdraw some money. Or probably when you use your credit card to pay for something? Just know that the government sees everything you’re doing, and trust me, they could tell you a lot about yourself than you ever imagined they could.

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The government has the ability to track individuals through various means such as surveillance cameras, GPS tracking, online monitoring & data collection. The extent of this tracking depends on legal regulations & jurisdiction. Governments usually employ these methods for security purposes, law enforcement & public safety. It's essential to be aware of privacy rights and understand the laws in your country to ensure the protection of personal information.

All your statement is very correct as per the government having all it take to track any one, one thing you said also that is most important is the aspect of know the laws of one nation mostly privacy or human rights, this help allot because some situation required you to use the law if is in your favor to guide yourself because some government agency can oppressed you when you lack the law or your right.

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If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

In as much nothing is hidden one must always do the right thing at the right time. Questioning government or any authority, must be a constructive one if the questioning is destructive you don't need to because is will be deadly.

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If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

If you do any bad thing that will make the government to need your attention and you ignore the invitation from the government and decided to run to unknown place hoping that government cannot find you, you lie to yourself because government army forces have all the tools to use to track you and bring you out to face the punishment.

That is why they always advise people not to do evil things to government by disobeying the rules and regulations that governed the country which the government will never allow you to go free with such attitude than to serve the punishment the person deserve at the moment so other citizens will not embark on such attitude in the country.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 26, 2023, 05:25:54 AM

I can't really tell for now because the forum itself believe in anonymity and that is why everyone is using unreal names to hide their identities. So if you against the rules of the government and they are looking for you to arrest and they came to this community, I don't think they can find you out except you have some personal life information in your profile. But others have said, if government want to find you out they can do it though it will take time for them to find you out.

Osama BIN Landin was not using anything in the world so it took years for USA government to find him out but finally he was caught and killed.

Actually, as far as I recall the administration of this forum complies with authorities when asked to hand over information about users and the private messages, that is why the administration encourages people here to use encryption to send private messages, so in that case the admin would have nothing to give authorities or other centralized organizations legally asking for it with a court order.

Also, Osama Binladen (once the most wanted person on the planet) was aware of his status and purposely avoided using anything related to internet connection and electronics, because he knew it would only serve as a tool for his enemies to find him and kill him. In the end, his strategy only helped to delay his inevitable fate, in my opinion.

Anything you post here in this forum is to be considered of public knowledge, unless you personally encrypted it.

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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

I don't really know what your angle of this topic really signifies but government already have our information so tracking us would never be a problem. If the government want to find any of us now, it will be very easy for them to know what we are doing especially online.
We juts need to stay focused and we should not bite more than we can chew even though freedom of speech is legal but we don't have to use our mouth to put ourselves into problems.

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I can't really tell for now because the forum itself believe in anonymity and that is why everyone is using unreal names to hide their identities. So if you against the rules of the government and they are looking for you to arrest and they came to this community, I don't think they can find you out except you have some personal life information in your profile. But others have said, if government want to find you out they can do it though it will take time for them to find you out.

Osama BIN Landin was not using anything in the world so it took years for USA government to find him out but finally he was caught and killed.

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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

You have the freedom of speech that allows you to air out your views on the excesses of the government and this is not out of place and shouldn't make the government track you for any reason, but you also have limitation to your freedom of speech and it is there to guide you not to make a statement that the potential of inciting problem or conflict to the bigger society.

In a developed society where government have access to her citizens data, it won't be difficult to track you even when you're are using a pseudo accounts.

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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

I am quite sure this community/forum is already being tracked and monitored by intelligence agencies from all around the world. It is a conclusion I reached after what happened with the Chipmixer downfall. The authorities from both Germany and the United States had kept in mind the existence of the forum account of the person behind the service.
Also, keeping in mind this is the place where Bitcoin was born from and where many project get their initial advertisement, It is among the interest of those agencies to keep an eye on the users around here, specially those they suspect to be into shady stuff.

So assume all you say here is being watched over by men in black .

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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

This will depend on the statement you’ve made or questioned them about. This will also depend on the person that have made that statement too. Government give priority to people that when they talk, it affects them and how the masses will react to that claim that they’re questioning them about. Government has the right to track anyone they wish to once you’ve been found guilty of any offence or been suspected of something. I know there is no always transparency in all of this, some might be just to satisfy natural grudge of themselves by misusing the power they have at that time. But in most cases, government can track you if they wish to for any reason they claim it to be and you won’t have right to question their judgment.

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Government can track someone in the crypto space especially if you have hard something to do with centralised exchange, casinos, apps or website where you have done a Kyc. I doubt if there is anyone that has kept his private affairs using only decentralised system or website. So if that is not possible no need worrying so much because even with an email and IP the government can have there way.

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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

You can be tracked by government, infact not only the government can track you, but anyone can do so as long as they are having a footprint of your informations, which includes your personal details, address, emails, mobile number or study you closely to Know what you do and where you go, also you can be tracked by government through all your registrations being made that connects or linked to their central server, they have your details and you can be tracked, this is why we want to have this kind of privacy with our financial economy through bitcoin in cryptocurrency.

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If you're not careful where you are sharing your personal information and it's all over in the internet then yes. But if you're like a hermit person and you don't share anything online even photos then you're unlikely to get tracked. However, let's get into the reality that most of us share all of our personal information on social media, on government websites, and in banks.

That's why they can gather, the government, all of those details if they're tracking someone. They can easily have access to the information that you've provided for the past years with your registrations. Whether it's a government registration, or a website registration, as long as they've got leads of your tracks or footprints on the web, it's possible.

And if your government has a lot of budget for information technology then think of it that they're going to do anything with their resources if they need to focus and track someone notorious. They won't just track someone if there's no reason for it. But they can know our tracks and what we do.

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Quote from: Mynameis123 on November 23, 2023, 02:38:27 PM

If I wanted to know something from people on this community, can government track us if we questions against there rules and laws or if they find it inappropriate.

A simple answer to your topic? Yes. The government is quite capable and of tracking its citizens. They’re probably good at it too as they’ve had decades of practice and have developed several means by which they could locate someone.
If by questioning the laws, you mean having a peaceful protest, then you’re likely safe. If it’s something else and you’re actively breaking the law, then perhaps you should be worried.

With all the seemingly irrelevant information dropped here and there online, it probably won’t be too difficult to locate a lot of people.

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Just because you need to balance freedom of speech doesn't mean you can use it to harm others. Legally, I have never seen this case happen. Even in some countries that are strict about activities on the internet, it is extremely difficult to control everything.
Instead, by raising everyone's awareness to always provide a clean space, there will be no intervention from the government. Perhaps many people try to be negative about situations that may arise, but In reality, personal use of the internet is only at a basic level, so only a few will commit vandalism.

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