Topic: Can i block translactions under 0.0001 fee? (Read 936 times)

Quote from: n2004al on July 18, 2015, 12:50:00 AM

im having lots of troubles,everyone who sends me under 0.0001 gets my wallet litteraly blocked,everytime i send btc it wont confirm for 48 hours and later that guy that sended me the btc (with fee that was under 0.0001) gets his money back

please help,how can i block those translactions on blockchain.info!?

You need to use a proper wallet for this, like Bitcoin Core, you activated Coin Control and when setting up a transaction you can simply ignore the unconfirmed output.

Let us know out it went.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on July 17, 2015, 11:32:44 PM

I dont know about coinbase,i need a fast wallet that works good with gambling sites

It is very easy to learn about coinbase. And it is more easy to be part of it. I sent you a pm. There you have the link to register to coinbase. Easy thing. Then try if this wallet works with gambling sites (should work) using a small amount of bitcoins. That's all. Enjoy !!!

be careful when using Coinbase account for gambling.

here is what coinbase is saying:

....Coinbase is a regulated Money Service Business under the FinCEN division of the U.S. Treasury Department and as such, we are required to review accounts in order to ensure compliance with regulations.
Gambling is illegal under US law even if you live outside of the US we cannot provide services to your account for the purpose of any type of gambling activity.

reddit post of someone getting screwed!

always do some research: https://www.google.com/search?q=coinbase+gambling

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is it possible to choose which input you send? or will it choose randomly from confirmed inputs?
for example if i have 3 input of 1BTC two confirmed and 1 unconfirmed ; when i want to send 2BTC the will wallet choose the two confirmed ones automatically?

I presume no one knows but bc.i support. They have answered every question I've asked. Not always to my liking, but always prompt and sufficent.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on July 17, 2015, 01:55:47 PM

I dont know about coinbase,i need a fast wallet that works good with gambling sites

It is very easy to learn about coinbase. And it is more easy to be part of it. I sent you a pm. There you have the link to register to coinbase. Easy thing. Then try if this wallet works with gambling sites (should work) using a small amount of bitcoins. That's all. Enjoy !!!

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im having lots of troubles,everyone who sends me under 0.0001 gets my wallet litteraly blocked,everytime i send btc it wont confirm for 48 hours and later that guy that sended me the btc (with fee that was under 0.0001) gets his money back

please help,how can i block those translactions on blockchain.info!?

You haven't provided a lot of information (a txid would be helpful), but I'm pretty sure you won't have any problems at all if you do not try to send the unconfirmed 0.0001 BTC. For example, if you have 1.0001 BTC (and the 0.0001 is unconfirmed), then send 0.99 BTC. That way there will be enough to send without having to include the unconfirmed 0.0001 BTC.

If you want more precise control, then you can also use the "Custom Send" feature.

is it possible to choose which input you send? or will it choose randomly from confirmed inputs?
for example if i have 3 input of 1BTC two confirmed and 1 unconfirmed ; when i want to send 2BTC the will wallet choose the two confirmed ones automatically?

p.s. bc.i custom send only lets you choose the addresses you send from.

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im having lots of troubles,everyone who sends me under 0.0001 gets my wallet litteraly blocked,everytime i send btc it wont confirm for 48 hours and later that guy that sended me the btc (with fee that was under 0.0001) gets his money back

please help,how can i block those translactions on blockchain.info!?

An unconfirmed transaction only freezes that money's transaction. What you had before is still available. I'm afraid you cannot block an incoming transaction, but you can ask the person making that transaction to use a higher fee. Note also that the fee is only one parameter. What's the size of the transaction?

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im having lots of troubles,everyone who sends me under 0.0001 gets my wallet litteraly blocked,everytime i send btc it wont confirm for 48 hours and later that guy that sended me the btc (with fee that was under 0.0001) gets his money back

please help,how can i block those translactions on blockchain.info!?

You haven't provided a lot of information (a txid would be helpful), but I'm pretty sure you won't have any problems at all if you do not try to send the unconfirmed 0.0001 BTC. For example, if you have 1.0001 BTC (and the 0.0001 is unconfirmed), then send 0.99 BTC. That way there will be enough to send without having to include the unconfirmed 0.0001 BTC.

If you want more precise control, then you can also use the "Custom Send" feature.

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Quote from: ranochigo on July 17, 2015, 12:08:55 PM

im having lots of troubles,everyone who sends me under 0.0001 gets my wallet litteraly blocked,everytime i send btc it wont confirm for 48 hours and later that guy that sended me the btc (with fee that was under 0.0001) gets his money back

please help,how can i block those translactions on blockchain.info!?

I have a transaction rescue charity I'm working on. It has a small learning curve, but it's not point and click yet. If your interested, post to the service thread, or PM me.

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Quote from: cakir on July 17, 2015, 06:08:50 AM

Quote from: oblivi on July 17, 2015, 10:04:07 AM

No matter what wallet you use, you've to wait till they get confirmed.
You can only do that; "Dear sender; while sending my bitcoins to me, please pay 2x tx fee (0.0002 BTC)".
Also you can choose "confirmed" tx'es before sending bitcoins. You need full control over your bitcoins to choose which inputs have confirmation so I advice you to use Bitcoin Core (Also you can disable to spend unconfirmed tx'es on bitcoin core).

wait so if the sender sends me a new translaction of 0.0002 the older one will get confirmed as well ?

No. Newer will be confirmed and older will be confirmed some other time. (If the sender doesn't dobule spend, doesn't use same inputs).

But you can make it confirmed faster. But you need to do a new tx with 3-5x higher tx fee.
It's called "Child pays for parent". https://www.google.com/search?q=child+pays+for+parent

I'm pretty sure that isn't how it works. The child needs to be confirmed first before the parents even get confirmations. Otherwise, if a transaction can be confirmed before the inputs get confirmed, Bitcoin wouldn't be safe.

Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 17, 2015, 09:25:05 AM

I have send a lot of bitcoins the last 2 hours with 0,0001 BTC of fees.
No problem. Roll Eyes

Quote from: ranochigo on July 17, 2015, 12:08:55 PM

Same here. As long as I know, the default fee in most wallets including Core is 0.0001, or im adding a 0? (0.001)
I think all of those problems will be solved once legit off the chain massive mechanisms like the Lightning Network are working. If I was a miner I personally would be frustrated having to process a bunch of tiny picotransactions (not even micro).

AFAIK, no such thing as default fee minimum fee is 0. There is however, such thing as minimum relay fee. It is basically a threshold for minimum fees to be set for clients to relay them. As of Bitcoin Core 0.11.0, it can be set manually hence it would defer. Different clients have different policies. Miner can set their own rules as to which transaction to accept.

You need to re-read the part you've bolded.
I've wrote 2 different scenarios and you didn't understand it well.

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AFAIK, no such thing as default fee minimum fee is 0. There is however, such thing as minimum relay fee. It is basically a threshold for minimum fees to be set for clients to relay them. As of Bitcoin Core 0.11.0, it can be set manually hence it would defer. Different clients have different policies. Miner can set their own rules as to which transaction to accept.

on android bitcoin wallet (schildbach), you cannot choose the fees ... you must pay with fees.

on bitcoin core, you can choose 3 methods :
- recommanded = algorythm based on blocks creation
- manually = set your fees
- without fees

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Quote from: cakir on July 17, 2015, 06:08:50 AM

Quote from: oblivi on July 17, 2015, 10:04:07 AM

No matter what wallet you use, you've to wait till they get confirmed.
You can only do that; "Dear sender; while sending my bitcoins to me, please pay 2x tx fee (0.0002 BTC)".
Also you can choose "confirmed" tx'es before sending bitcoins. You need full control over your bitcoins to choose which inputs have confirmation so I advice you to use Bitcoin Core (Also you can disable to spend unconfirmed tx'es on bitcoin core).

wait so if the sender sends me a new translaction of 0.0002 the older one will get confirmed as well ?

No. Newer will be confirmed and older will be confirmed some other time. (If the sender doesn't dobule spend, doesn't use same inputs).

But you can make it confirmed faster. But you need to do a new tx with 3-5x higher tx fee.
It's called "Child pays for parent". https://www.google.com/search?q=child+pays+for+parent

I'm pretty sure that isn't how it works. The child needs to be confirmed first before the parents even get confirmations. Otherwise, if a transaction can be confirmed before the inputs get confirmed, Bitcoin wouldn't be safe.

Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 17, 2015, 09:25:05 AM

I have send a lot of bitcoins the last 2 hours with 0,0001 BTC of fees.
No problem. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 17, 2015, 09:25:05 AM

Same here. As long as I know, the default fee in most wallets including Core is 0.0001, or im adding a 0? (0.001)
I think all of those problems will be solved once legit off the chain massive mechanisms like the Lightning Network are working. If I was a miner I personally would be frustrated having to process a bunch of tiny picotransactions (not even micro).

AFAIK, no such thing as default fee minimum fee is 0. There is however, such thing as minimum relay fee. It is basically a threshold for minimum fees to be set for clients to relay them. As of Bitcoin Core 0.11.0, it can be set manually hence it would defer. Different clients have different policies. Miner can set their own rules as to which transaction to accept.

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I have send a lot of bitcoins the last 2 hours with 0,0001 BTC of fees.
No problem. Roll Eyes

Same here. As long as I know, the default fee in most wallets including Core is 0.0001, or im adding a 0? (0.001)
I think all of those problems will be solved once legit off the chain massive mechanisms like the Lightning Network are working. If I was a miner I personally would be frustrated having to process a bunch of tiny picotransactions (not even micro).

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I have send a lot of bitcoins the last 2 hours with 0,0001 BTC of fees.
No problem. Roll Eyes

Quote from: NorrisK on July 17, 2015, 05:07:51 AM

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im having lots of troubles,everyone who sends me under 0.0001 gets my wallet litteraly blocked,everytime i send btc it wont confirm for 48 hours and later that guy that sended me the btc (with fee that was under 0.0001) gets his money back

please help,how can i block those translactions on blockchain.info!?

So basically you cannot send coins when an incoming transaction has no confirmations? That should not be working like that imo..

You dont need confirmation to send money from your wallet. So yes you can send btc from your account if not confirmed.

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No matter what wallet you use, you've to wait till they get confirmed.
You can only do that; "Dear sender; while sending my bitcoins to me, please pay 2x tx fee (0.0002 BTC)".
Also you can choose "confirmed" tx'es before sending bitcoins. You need full control over your bitcoins to choose which inputs have confirmation so I advice you to use Bitcoin Core (Also you can disable to spend unconfirmed tx'es on bitcoin core).

wait so if the sender sends me a new translaction of 0.0002 the older one will get confirmed as well ?

No. Newer will be confirmed and older will be confirmed some other time. (If the sender doesn't dobule spend, doesn't use same inputs).

But you can make it confirmed faster. But you need to do a new tx with 3-5x higher tx fee.
It's called "Child pays for parent". https://www.google.com/search?q=child+pays+for+parent

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Quote from: Amadues on July 17, 2015, 05:06:33 AM

For what that I know you can't block.
Try to move funds to another wallet, maybe mix the funds to avoid spam tx.

I will try doing that in the future,i was thinking of doing that,but everytime i want that i get the unconfirmation that lasts 48 hours and i never do it

Quote from: NorrisK on July 17, 2015, 05:07:51 AM

im having lots of troubles,everyone who sends me under 0.0001 gets my wallet litteraly blocked,everytime i send btc it wont confirm for 48 hours and later that guy that sended me the btc (with fee that was under 0.0001) gets his money back

please help,how can i block those translactions on blockchain.info!?

So basically you cannot send coins when an incoming transaction has no confirmations? That should not be working like that imo..

I can send the bitcoins,but the guy that receives the money will receive it but with no confirmations and after some time the translaction gets deleted and everyone losses the money except the first guy that sended,he gets his money back

It would happen if the person pays low fees nevertheless. The best method would be waiting to send goods after 1 confirmation or if the person pays average fees.

Quote from: n2004al on July 17, 2015, 05:12:12 AM

I can suggest you to change wallet. Coinbase it is maybe the best web based wallet for bitcoin.

It is not necessary to be connected with one wallet which give you problems when there are to many other sites which give excellent similar service.

I dont know about coinbase,i need a fast wallet that works good with gambling sites

Coinbase isn't any better than other wallets. Other wallets allows you to choose outputs to spend.

No matter what wallet you use, you've to wait till they get confirmed.
You can only do that; "Dear sender; while sending my bitcoins to me, please pay 2x tx fee (0.0002 BTC)".
Also you can choose "confirmed" tx'es before sending bitcoins. You need full control over your bitcoins to choose which inputs have confirmation so I advice you to use Bitcoin Core (Also you can disable to spend unconfirmed tx'es on bitcoin core).

wait so if the sender sends me a new translaction of 0.0002 the older one will get confirmed as well ?

It depends. If you spend the output of the unconfirmed transaction with higher and more attractive fee, pools implementing CPFP (Child pay for parent) would consider confirming the transaction associated hence getting all the fee. However, the only big pool implementing this is Eligius which have a low hashrate hence it wouldn't have much chances

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Quote from: Amadues on July 17, 2015, 05:06:33 AM

No matter what wallet you use, you've to wait till they get confirmed.
You can only do that; "Dear sender; while sending my bitcoins to me, please pay 2x tx fee (0.0002 BTC)".
Also you can choose "confirmed" tx'es before sending bitcoins. You need full control over your bitcoins to choose which inputs have confirmation so I advice you to use Bitcoin Core (Also you can disable to spend unconfirmed tx'es on bitcoin core).

wait so if the sender sends me a new translaction of 0.0002 the older one will get confirmed as well ?

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No matter what wallet you use, you've to wait till they get confirmed.
You can only do that; "Dear sender; while sending my bitcoins to me, please pay 2x tx fee (0.0002 BTC)".
Also you can choose "confirmed" tx'es before sending bitcoins. You need full control over your bitcoins to choose which inputs have confirmation so I advice you to use Bitcoin Core (Also you can disable to spend unconfirmed tx'es on bitcoin core).

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For what that I know you can't block.
Try to move funds to another wallet, maybe mix the funds to avoid spam tx.

I will try doing that in the future,i was thinking of doing that,but everytime i want that i get the unconfirmation that lasts 48 hours and i never do it

Quote from: NorrisK on July 17, 2015, 05:07:51 AM