There is no third party just the buyer and my bank. The buyer of the coins pays my debt by placing cash into my account. You can make it sound more complicated if you want but I don't see the point.
Topic: Can I pay off my loan without using FIAT before the end of the week? - page 2. (Read 27528 times)
June 26, 2013, 07:59:33 PM
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
June 26, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
He's saying:
"I" can't pay it off if "somebody else" is paying it off.
"I" can't pay it off if "somebody else" is paying it off.
But if you are giving something to the other guy, then it amounts to the same thing. If you start with a debt of X dollars, and after giving a guy (bitcoins, a blowjob, dollars, whatever) the debt is repaid, then it does not matter exactly what happened, you payed off your loan.
June 26, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
What Mylon said. This convoluted discussion boils down to two separate transactions, each with its own legal aspects and cans of worms. Not saying any cans of worms would get opened, but who knows.
User "seller" says he owns bitcoins, and owes dollars. Instead of selling his bitcoins for dollars, and paying off the loan, he is creating a complicated third-party-payment situation.
If he doesn't like the price he can get at an exchange, he is welcome to make an offer and wait, or to make an offer OTC or through local markets and wait.
User "seller" says he owns bitcoins, and owes dollars. Instead of selling his bitcoins for dollars, and paying off the loan, he is creating a complicated third-party-payment situation.
If he doesn't like the price he can get at an exchange, he is welcome to make an offer and wait, or to make an offer OTC or through local markets and wait.
June 26, 2013, 07:16:48 PM
I am not willing to pay a premium. If I were I'd just go sell to the exchanges. I'm looking for a better price for my hard earned coin.
I want to sell 70+ btc today for a cash deposit in my bank. Price is mt gox + 10%.
That should be clear enough.
Ok, good luck!!! (think your then better of searching for people willing to pay premium for BTC... rather than posting yourself... but then again.. you do have a lot not so smart people) I want to sell 70+ btc today for a cash deposit in my bank. Price is mt gox + 10%.
That should be clear enough.
June 26, 2013, 07:12:40 PM
I am not willing to pay a premium. If I were I'd just go sell to the exchanges. I'm looking for a better price for my hard earned coin.
I want to sell 70+ btc today for a cash deposit in my bank. Price is mt gox + 10%.
That should be clear enough.
I want to sell 70+ btc today for a cash deposit in my bank. Price is mt gox + 10%.
That should be clear enough.
June 26, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
First off, you're confusing the hell out of people with loads of crap.
What you want, (correct me if I'm wrong here) is to sell $8500 worth of BTC and / or LTC. (don't pin me on this rate, but thats about 85 bitcoins, or 4250 litecoins)
Why aren't you advocating that you want to sell that? (through escrow, wire only)
Why do you have to make it very confusing for everybody with paying off this loan and other BS... which has nothing to do with what you want... trade 85 bitcoins into us dollars...
Until you actually change this thing around and make it simple and understandable for buyers (I want to sell A for price B) with escrow, wire only. You won't find any Buyers, purely because you over complicate things.
Next off I suggest you make the deal attractive for buyers, the best example of how you should something like this is right here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ended-100-500-btc-pay-by-wirecheckgold-willing-to-pay-a-premium-195173 (Casascius, hope you don't mind me referencing you
)
Do that, and it won't take you more than a couple of days to get the cash together.
What you want, (correct me if I'm wrong here) is to sell $8500 worth of BTC and / or LTC. (don't pin me on this rate, but thats about 85 bitcoins, or 4250 litecoins)
Why aren't you advocating that you want to sell that? (through escrow, wire only)
Why do you have to make it very confusing for everybody with paying off this loan and other BS... which has nothing to do with what you want... trade 85 bitcoins into us dollars...
Until you actually change this thing around and make it simple and understandable for buyers (I want to sell A for price B) with escrow, wire only. You won't find any Buyers, purely because you over complicate things.
Next off I suggest you make the deal attractive for buyers, the best example of how you should something like this is right here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ended-100-500-btc-pay-by-wirecheckgold-willing-to-pay-a-premium-195173 (Casascius, hope you don't mind me referencing you
)Do that, and it won't take you more than a couple of days to get the cash together.
June 26, 2013, 07:02:03 PM
I don't remember your exact post but I'm pretty sure it wasn't as "professional" as this one.
I have coins. I want to pay off a few loans. I will use escrow. I am trying to sell at Mt Gox +10%. I figure people are willing to pay bitinstant's fees and all I need is cash in a bank account so it should be an easy sale for a buyer who is not yet tied directly to the exchanges.
I have coins. I want to pay off a few loans. I will use escrow. I am trying to sell at Mt Gox +10%. I figure people are willing to pay bitinstant's fees and all I need is cash in a bank account so it should be an easy sale for a buyer who is not yet tied directly to the exchanges.
June 26, 2013, 06:57:04 PM
Um...you don't seem like you're trying very hard to get a taker for your offer.
I wasn't trolling when I asked if you were asking that we pay you btc-e's exchange rate PLUS 10% in fiat (instead of the opposite, where you we pay you fiat and you pay us btc-e's exchange rate +10%). I just wanted to understand the terms.
But you deleted my post. Why bother posting an ad if you are going to delete questions from those who take it seriously?
I wasn't trolling when I asked if you were asking that we pay you btc-e's exchange rate PLUS 10% in fiat (instead of the opposite, where you we pay you fiat and you pay us btc-e's exchange rate +10%). I just wanted to understand the terms.
But you deleted my post. Why bother posting an ad if you are going to delete questions from those who take it seriously?
June 26, 2013, 06:56:06 PM
He's saying:
"I" can't pay it off if "somebody else" is paying it off.
"I" can't pay it off if "somebody else" is paying it off.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
June 26, 2013, 06:23:32 PM
He's arguing about grammar and the English language, don't fall into his tarpit.
I am usually pretty good at spotting grammar issues, but I think I am lost on this one. Could you explain more?
June 26, 2013, 05:56:30 PM
He's arguing about grammar and the English language, don't fall into his tarpit.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
June 26, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
Technically, you cannot pay off your USD loan by having somebody else pay it off in exchange for whatever (bitcoins, blowjob, a used car). This distinction may become important in case of either of the two deals going bad.
Why wouldn't he be able to do such a thing? Saying "send X dollars to bank account Y (which happens to be my loan account) and I will send Z bitcoins to you" is no different than saying "send X dollars to bank account Y (which happens to be my savings account) and I will send Z bitcoins to you".
Or is the you bolded because only he is not able to do this, and other people would?
June 26, 2013, 03:04:36 PM
Technically, you cannot pay off your USD loan by having somebody else pay it off in exchange for whatever (bitcoins, blowjob, a used car). This distinction may become important in case of either of the two deals going bad.
June 26, 2013, 02:56:46 PM
ok well how about post the bitcoin address then so we can see what you are rolling with...thanks
You accused me of breaking the law and being a scammer. I've asked you to leave my threads. I'm happy to put my coin in JohnK's hands today if anyone is serious about trading. I am not interested in window shoppers, thanks and good bye for the last time techic.
June 26, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
so far all I understand is send you money for nothing i smell something stinks around here imo..thanks
Generally when someone tries to screw you over, they make it sound like a really good deal. This sounds like a terrible deal, so if he's a scammer he's a bad one.
June 26, 2013, 12:50:20 PM
I have lots of coins. I can handle both, thank you for asking.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
June 26, 2013, 11:24:20 AM
Oh no, I want to trade today no derail. Let me buy your coins, please. I have a bunch of btc burning a hole in my pocket, come on dude, hook a brother up.
Is this in addition to the bitcoins you are trying to use to pay your debt, or would buying his silver make you cancel the auction?
June 26, 2013, 11:13:56 AM
Oh no, I want to trade today no derail. Let me buy your coins, please. I have a bunch of btc burning a hole in my pocket, come on dude, hook a brother up.
June 26, 2013, 10:50:00 AM
I guess it al depends on if your orders get filled.
Smoothie, congratulations on your new offering. Please link it in this thread so people can see. It's GORGEOUS.
edit: Click the yellow link above in smoothie's signature. Warning, it may cause drooling.
>>> LEALANA PHYSICAL SILVER LITECOINS <<<
WINNING!
Hey dude, wanna trade? I'll give you coin today to be the first customer. I will NEVER EVER EVER open the ones I buy. Please please please plea
Hence why it is in my signature.
June 26, 2013, 10:45:54 AM
I guess it al depends on if your orders get filled.
Smoothie, congratulations on your new offering. Please link it in this thread so people can see. It's GORGEOUS.
edit: Click the yellow link above in smoothie's signature. Warning, it may cause drooling.
>>> LEALANA PHYSICAL SILVER LITECOINS <<<
WINNING!
Hey dude, wanna trade? I'll give you coin today to be the first customer. I will NEVER EVER EVER open the ones I buy. Please please please plea
Jump to: