Topic: Can operating a Bitcoin node make you a target? - page 2. (Read 2055 times)
Majority of these nodes are ran on virtual machines thats why majority of nodes seems to be centralized on united states (majority of VPS providers have servers in USA). On the other hand other node operator try to use VPN to protect their privacy if they want, but if government haven't banned use of bitcoin, i don't think any node operator have to worry about getting exposed.
Operating a bitcoin node will make your IP address visible unless you are using a proxy server in case the government decides to search for miners but I do not see that happening because even banks have noticed the advantages of the blockchain.
So why hack down the hen just to keep the egg?
So why hack down the hen just to keep the egg?
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/nodes-active/united-states/
And could the Government use its overreaching powers to get IP addresses and turn them into actual addresses?
And could the Government use its overreaching powers to get IP addresses and turn them into actual addresses?
They can only find out where particular transactions propagated from. It would be tough to conclusively link IP addresses and actual wallet addresses. I don't think that needs to a point of concern, whether you are using tor or not.
Everything that exists within this site is indeed less convincing. Because as much as the person who did the research and their trial has not yet been able to ascertain who is using bitcoin transactions that are currently doing. Because it doesn't save your bitcoin confidential data and they can only see the address IP addres addres and also (either the ip that they get it right or just an ip redirection). So if they can do that then it's a good thing, because it could find out who else is using it and from where they get the bitcoin
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/nodes-active/united-states/
And could the Government use its overreaching powers to get IP addresses and turn them into actual addresses?
And could the Government use its overreaching powers to get IP addresses and turn them into actual addresses?
They can only find out where particular transactions propagated from. It would be tough to conclusively link IP addresses and actual wallet addresses. I don't think that needs to a point of concern, whether you are using tor or not.
And could the Government use its overreaching powers to get IP addresses and turn them into actual addresses?
Clearly, government could do this. And maybe its already happening in some countries without our knowledge. To protect nodes and user identities against malicious governments, Bitcoin Core supports simplified setup over the TOR network. Taking Bitcoin nodes offline in all countries is extremely unlikely to work, even with very good international cooperation. And there are already countries and regions, that have formed a positive stance towards Bitcoin (Isle of Man, Switzerland).
In the long run, a carrier independent infrastructure for Bitcoin nodes is still clearly desirable. Sadly, I don't know what happened to Garzik's BitSat project, but it looked quite promising. Even without own satellites, decentralized networks are evolving everywhere and so will decentralized connectivity.
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lets imagine using bitcoin was made illegal, its not. so this is just hypothetical to appease Sir Alpha's thoughts
alot of people think "use proxies". but that only protects the end user from knowing the source user..
ISP's will still know because they are packet sniffing the source user not the destination
lets imagine using bitcoin was made illegal, its not. so this is just hypothetical to appease Sir Alpha's thoughts
alot of people think "use proxies". but that only protects the end user from knowing the source user..
ISP's will still know because they are packet sniffing the source user not the destination
a government could via united nations/interpol set up a sudden international tactical strike
this can be done by
https://bitnodes.21.co/
getting all the IP's and finding out which ISP that ip belongs to.
EG in the UK its under 230..in the U.S its under 1500 [nodes]
so imagine tomorrow under 230 homes out of 20 million [UK]households have their internet disconnected
at the same time
in america under 1500 homes out of 100mill [US]households have their internet disconnected
and so on
even things like proxies are useless because the landline has been literally cut off for upto 6000 locations
think its impossible? its not. ISP's have millions of customers and regularly turn the internet off on 10's of thousands of users every week due to breach of contract/non payment of bill.
they would also take bitnodes and other DNS seeding locations offline to further cause drama of new node locations not being able to link up, though smart people will just join an IRC channel and request a list of working ip addresses to manually add node connections [once they sort out their land line disconnection barrier]
as for the network
what would happen is that the countries with no "partnerships" to whatever agency is organising this tactical strike will continue on. and people who are affected would need to either move house or go to court to get their internet ban lifted or change ISP which can take upto 10 days in some cases.
again it wont require an all out "ban the internet" of 1.5billion people. but instead disconnecting the land lines of under 6000 people to cause alot of drama and issues.
the solution is to get more diverse. instead of bitcoin nodes running in just 91 countries it needs to be running in all 200 countries. and also needs to be running via satalite and other non landline/ISP reliant methods
this can be done by
getting all the IP's and finding out which ISP that ip belongs to.
EG in the UK its under 230..in the U.S its under 1500 [nodes]
so imagine tomorrow under 230 homes out of 20 million [UK]households have their internet disconnected
at the same time
in america under 1500 homes out of 100mill [US]households have their internet disconnected
and so on
even things like proxies are useless because the landline has been literally cut off for upto 6000 locations
think its impossible? its not. ISP's have millions of customers and regularly turn the internet off on 10's of thousands of users every week due to breach of contract/non payment of bill.
they would also take bitnodes and other DNS seeding locations offline to further cause drama of new node locations not being able to link up, though smart people will just join an IRC channel and request a list of working ip addresses to manually add node connections [once they sort out their land line disconnection barrier]
as for the network
what would happen is that the countries with no "partnerships" to whatever agency is organising this tactical strike will continue on. and people who are affected would need to either move house or go to court to get their internet ban lifted or change ISP which can take upto 10 days in some cases.
again it wont require an all out "ban the internet" of 1.5billion people. but instead disconnecting the land lines of under 6000 people to cause alot of drama and issues.
the solution is to get more diverse. instead of bitcoin nodes running in just 91 countries it needs to be running in all 200 countries. and also needs to be running via satalite and other non landline/ISP reliant methods
For now I feel it is not a problem, it is not like bitcoin nodes are used as a servers for pirated content or anything.
But in the future if governments would like to take more restrictive approach or shift their mindset to prevent bitcoin spreading it could become troublesome.
Let's hope will will never experience a "Bitcoin Node Witch Hunt".
But in the future if governments would like to take more restrictive approach or shift their mindset to prevent bitcoin spreading it could become troublesome.
Let's hope will will never experience a "Bitcoin Node Witch Hunt".
With the list of people running nodes so transparent is it possible that in a time of unrest that you could actually become a target?
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/nodes-active/
Surely not everyone is using a VM or proxy right?
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/nodes-active/united-states/
And could the Government use its overreaching powers to get IP addresses and turn them into actual addresses?
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/nodes-active/
Surely not everyone is using a VM or proxy right?
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/nodes-active/united-states/
And could the Government use its overreaching powers to get IP addresses and turn them into actual addresses?
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