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September 08, 2021, 12:12:00 AM
#28
Politics can't be totally pure. That's why it's called politics
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September 08, 2021, 02:02:28 AM
#28
@OP
Politicians feed on the imperfections of their rivals, not their virtues, so analyzing those virtues correspond to those who agree to give power to those politicians, that is, you or the people.

Says a phrase "The art of politics" and in that context any resolution or confrontation between the politicians  it is determined if it is dirty or clean depending on where the interests of the person who judges.

Anyway in practical reality it is not a question of qualifying the modus operandi, because in itself, the very result of those political decisions for the benefit of the collective determines the degree of purity.
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August 29, 2021, 05:05:39 PM
#27
Politics can be pure if the representative of the people perform there responsibility..from the start the documented laws are carried out,but lately laws are meant for the rich instead of the poor.
Politics can not be pure in my own perspective....the people vote in there representatives but they're totally snubbed at the end of the day, mean while attention is only been paid to there God father's alone.
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August 29, 2021, 12:56:56 PM
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August 29, 2021, 02:42:34 AM
#25
Politics can never be pure through politics that tiny organizations can easily change their needs and reach the top of development. In one area a tornado destroyed some homes opposition support is high within the area inevitably, a disaster management committee was formed headed by an opposition politician within the area state institutions and officials also perform their duties impartially. Since there's no government there's not the slightest change within the treatment of the opposition.
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August 28, 2021, 06:03:38 PM
#24
Politics can be interpreted with art in achieving certain goals. Because it has a purpose, politics is born (a way to achieve goals). So it is very difficult if politics there is no element of crime and hatred in it. This is related to how a person's lust and desires. Political crime is one form of organized crime (organized crim) so that the ruler can be done or individuals to the desired.
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August 28, 2021, 04:01:39 PM
#23
Politics is not a dirty game it is the politicians that are dirty.
The reality is it is.
Politics is meant for power and leadership, but corruption has eaten deep into our 21 century politician, which has made politics in its entirety as a dirty game.
And that ends up that politics is dirty because of them and actually it is. I've heard that there's clean politics in Japan, anyone who have an idea about them?
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August 28, 2021, 12:46:34 PM
#22
You don't reach the top in business or politics by being "nice". ALL politicans who reach the top are vicious, scheming underhanded creatures who running a sysyem of societal governance that is simply the substitute for a society of chaos,anarchy,mob rule,vigilantism etc. Both are corrupt systems of governance whereby the ruling class of plutocrats simply usurp the law and use their machinations to enforce their dominance in either societal system. A political leader today is in essence no different than any other cartel leading member. All will see the pit in the end and their rotting corpes worms will never die Wink



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August 27, 2021, 01:56:28 PM
#21
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
No politics cannot be pure because it is a realm of game, envy, greed, and thirst for power/position at all costs. Besides, the fundamental belief of every politician is to create and supply a hate story that will discredit their political opponents which have a possible chance to win against them and the funny thing is people rely on the hate stories rather than investigate them
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August 26, 2021, 03:27:49 PM
#20
Intelligent and capable people rarely chooses a political career. The way our politics works should be re-imagined.
The first correction we could do is limit the number of political post, decentralize/dissolve parliaments, create a system so that people could vote for every small things.
Democracy is stupid but it's less harmful than any other system. Let people decide what they want not the leaders.
Democracy can't be stupid and it isn't stupid because it allows the masses,citizens and people choose whom they want to rule them.It also give the people ample opportunity to vote for election and be voted for.

Democracy which is government of the people,,for the people and by the people was meant to be free and fare,but the corruption,nepotism,psychopansy and afghanistanism in the political system has made the system rough.Everybody wants to rule by all cost,and thus will continue because everybody coming to rule have their own selfish interest in the political position and therefore cannot rule the people purely without corruption.
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August 26, 2021, 07:29:05 AM
#19
yes there is the divide of the minds. and this occurs even when things are bipartisan

take covid.
one side(economic) wants the lockdown to end now and inhindsight say it should never have happened
other side(health) wants the lockdown to be and have been more stricter to actually prevent all infection

so there is a double argument of government being to soft and being to hard.

but thats democracy. it goes with the majority.

however being dirty is where government and its representatives and their friends are doing things for their own desires and not the majority citizen population.

this could change by making representatives more accountable. where any major changes go to a vote or need to fulfill the mission statement/pledge the representatives got elected by

EG trumps "wall" has many negative viewpoints of disadvantages.. but it was part of his pledge and people voted him in due to it. so its not 'dirty'

what would be dirty is if he was syphoning off profits for his and his buddies personal gain rather than finding the best quality/least cost method of building a wall

things like accountants and regulators should be looking more towards the politicians and less at the citizens just trying to get by on minimum wage. that alone can make politics less dirty
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August 26, 2021, 05:05:34 AM
#18
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

It is quite impossible to achieve such thing, and if it happens someday, then it is a miracle of some sort I guess.

Whatever a person do, especially in politics, there is a criticism following this. And the criticism regarding his actions are in both good and bad side. So even though the intention of the politician is for the betterment of the nation, for other's perspective, it is not good. Also, the whole world can know the action and even criticized it based on their own perspective that is influenced by culture, etc.
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August 25, 2021, 05:13:09 PM
#17
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics is not a dirty game it is the politicians that are dirty. Politics is meant for power and leadership, but corruption has eaten deep into our 21 century politician, which has made politics in its entirety as a dirty game.
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August 25, 2021, 03:17:52 PM
#16
It can never be pure what prompt the grievances is failure of the political parties to be fair to all their members, the leader always have a hidden agenda best known to them alone, they are authoritarian who never motivate other party organs to function and likewise during election they either change the rules halfway or refuse to forward the name of winning aspirant.
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August 25, 2021, 11:38:02 AM
#15
politics can be pure if they first get their pledge/mission statements right and then actually have a method of penalty for not doing it.
actual accountability comes first

next is to take out the personal greed and desires. this means if a politician wants to be a millionaire. then they should not apply for a roll that pays 10x less than a million.
they should only be candidates if what they want is to be the listening ear of citizens and push through the goals of citizens.

this leads onto not listening to corporations. take capitalism out of politics. if businesses want to thrive then the business has to thrive by offering citizens what citizens want not by offering politicians something in exchange for a loop hole

if politicians and corporations FOLLOW the citizens needs. and not there own. then politics has a chance of being less dirty.
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August 25, 2021, 09:49:10 AM
#14
Intelligent and capable people rarely chooses a political career. The way our politics works should be re-imagined.
The first correction we could do is limit the number of political post, decentralize/dissolve parliaments, create a system so that people could vote for every small things.
Democracy is stupid but it's less harmful than any other system. Let people decide what they want not the leaders.
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August 25, 2021, 06:46:38 AM
#13
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Do you know of any politican or ex politican who rises or has risen to the top who lives like a pauper and is not somehow compromised through conflict of interest?
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August 25, 2021, 03:56:19 AM
#12
This question makes me want to laugh. What topic is this? purely? What is it purely? Is a game without corruption and filthy pure? This is a world composed of people. As long as people participate in things, they will not divorce from human nature. If everyone in this world is pure, then there will be no politics, and this is the kingdom of heaven.
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August 25, 2021, 03:35:02 AM
#11
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

 Inside the politics was rear  spread in the entertainment but I pretty sure in politics there's a dirty deeds ,someone aiming a power or rules inside the Government and also had a bad deeds and intentions fo the country
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August 24, 2021, 01:45:47 PM
#10
As far as there are opposition in politics who to stand against politics will always be a dirty game. Every politian want to be in the winning equation, this mindset brings selfishness to get power by all means. No politician choose or desire to be a failure or looser. Like they say every politian fights for his selfish interest. At this point I'll say politics can't be totally pure but it can be partially pure. It is only few people policians in the political system that are partially pure
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