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October 07, 2012, 01:48:08 AM
#41
The real question I think should be: can prostitution benefit from bluetooth and bitcoin?

If in Saudi Arabia, bluetooth can be used to flirt and circumvent bans on men and women associating together ( http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/12/94234.shtml )... then maybe someone can find a way to use bluetooth as a surreptitious way to make a bitcoin payment to someone unobservably.

Maybe someone makes a decoy Contacts app where the guy asks for the girl's "number" and puts into his "contacts" app... a relatively innocuous exchange that would be entirely ordinary in public... then after the girl's phone vibrates briefly for no reason, the two suddenly go have sex.

What happened was the decoy contacts app invisibly finds and talks via bluetooth to an app on the girl's phone, gets a bitcoin address, makes a payment to it, and an invisible app on the girl's phone buzzes to indicate the payment was received.  The phone number he got was probably not a real telephone number, but was just a step to make sure the guy paid the girl he's talking to and not some random stranger's phone within bluetooth range.  (And, a few digits of the number might stand for the amount to pay.)
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October 04, 2012, 06:18:55 PM
#40
I'm not sure why it would offer much advantage over cash.

Well, bitcoins have been facilitating nerds making illegal transactions for a little while now, you see it has the benefit that you don't have to meet the person you're doing business with...






At least you won't catch anything
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October 04, 2012, 03:46:19 PM
#39
isn't there like some big national convention of pimps that happens every year? "playa's ball" or some such?

It seems so Smiley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Players_Ball

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October 03, 2012, 11:41:51 PM
#38
you know, come to think of it, alot of high-end hookers carry around mobile credit card machines.. their pimps are probably all like "yea nigga we high tech like that". problem being credit cards allow for chargebacks, and leave paper trails, so cash is still preferred. bitcoin would almost completely eliminate both of these problems.

isn't there like some big national convention of pimps that happens every year? "playa's ball" or some such? somebody needs to tell the "united federation of pimping" about bitcoin. don't try and introduce it on the hooker level, they'll just get confused by it and question if their respective pimp will get mad at them or not. instead, introduce it on the pimp level. pimps understand business surprisingly well, and bitcoin is great for business. find your local pimps and get them into bitcoin.
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October 02, 2012, 07:45:39 PM
#37
I can see it now.... a QR bitcoin address tattooed on the left butt cheek.
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October 02, 2012, 07:37:44 PM
#36
Any chicks in DC/Virginia/Maryland/West Virginia wanna make some BTC?  Grin

Of course you know solicitation is a crime in all of the states you mentioned. Even if you're trading baseball cards for pussy so btc won't save you there.

Of course, because I clearly stated what the BTC would be for. /endsarcasm   Try harder next time.
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October 02, 2012, 02:40:15 AM
#35
Any chicks in DC/Virginia/Maryland/West Virginia wanna make some BTC?  Grin
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October 02, 2012, 12:09:12 AM
#34
There seems to be a market for an escrow, perhaps a deep web one. In addition to removing the cash trail, it serves as a way to build reputation and arbitrate disputes. By building trust with long term customers it could also guarantee payment at 0 confirmations.
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October 01, 2012, 07:50:12 PM
#33
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.. if anybody can think of a way to complete Bitcoin transaction in escort business,
it will be a milti-million dollar payout in no time.

i'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to do over a droid or an iphone.

Well, the question is not really building the payment via Bitcoin,
it's rather figuring out way to get them to use it... so it is convenient and "safe" for them.
(safe = no big brother)

Step 1:
Convince johns to use it, so they can easily can use cash to create Bitcoin balance

Step 2:
Convince providers that it is real money and they can convert them to dollars

Both are difficult.
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October 01, 2012, 07:17:58 PM
#32
I had this generally same idea but it would apply to strippers. Each stripper would have a QR code on a sticker or something and you could scan and get lap dances.

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I know of a phone sex and cam site already taking bitcoin. Any site that takes 50% of your tips is a ripoff. (and btw camming and phone sex are not prostitution)

and to whoever wrote that comment on backwards countries and prostitution - remember it was the progressive era that started the anti prostitution laws.

By legal definition, phone sex and camming aren't prostitution, but, like prostitution, they are synonymous with degeneracy.  

Hey, where there's a man there's a market LOL.
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October 01, 2012, 07:16:11 PM
#31
I'm involved with one of the largest escort websites.
I'll tell you - it's hopeless to get through their "cash-only" mindset.
Though, clients (i.e. guys) will be willing to go "technological",
you will have hard time convincing providers to adopt it. 

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... popular currency for escorts/prostitutes is Amazon Gift Certificates... 
Ha! Our company started that...  Roll Eyes

... if anybody can think of a way to complete Bitcoin transaction in escort business,
it will be a milti-million dollar payout in no time.

i'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to do over a droid or an iphone.
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October 01, 2012, 05:19:51 PM
#30
I had this generally same idea but it would apply to strippers. Each stripper would have a QR code on a sticker or something and you could scan and get lap dances.

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I know of a phone sex and cam site already taking bitcoin. Any site that takes 50% of your tips is a ripoff. (and btw camming and phone sex are not prostitution)

and to whoever wrote that comment on backwards countries and prostitution - remember it was the progressive era that started the anti prostitution laws.

By legal definition, phone sex and camming aren't prostitution, but, like prostitution, they are synonymous with degeneracy.  
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October 01, 2012, 05:12:13 PM
#29
I'm involved with one of the largest escort websites.
I'll tell you - it's hopeless to get through their "cash-only" mindset.
Though, clients (i.e. guys) will be willing to go "technological",
you will have hard time convincing providers to adopt it. 

Quote
... popular currency for escorts/prostitutes is Amazon Gift Certificates... 
Ha! Our company started that...  Roll Eyes

... if anybody can think of a way to complete Bitcoin transaction in escort business,
it will be a milti-million dollar payout in no time.
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October 01, 2012, 04:33:27 PM
#28
Well, here in Canada prostitution is legal, so I guess it could.
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October 01, 2012, 04:29:06 PM
#27
I had this generally same idea but it would apply to strippers. Each stripper would have a QR code on a sticker or something and you could scan and get lap dances.

This is already going on with strippers, they have a little card thats on there ankle that has a QR code to scan.
I think it was called stripcoin or something,I didn't save the url with info about it.

I think cam-girls is going to be the next major Sex related bitcoin area, the cam sites take almost 50% cut of the tips.
The girls already skim tips by using paypal, but most of the time they get there account closed.
They just have to have an exchange open in the Philippians where most of the Asian cam girls are located to help them cash out.


I know of a phone sex and cam site already taking bitcoin. Any site that takes 50% of your tips is a ripoff. (and btw camming and phone sex are not prostitution)

and to whoever wrote that comment on backwards countries and prostitution - remember it was the progressive era that started the anti prostitution laws.
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October 01, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
#26
Certainly, but it's not trouble free. Horkabork has already explored this a year ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.533544

Too bad he seem to have left, he definitely wrote the most entertaining posts on Bitcointalk.
That was an amazing post.

"Also, sitting around in a seedy hotel room waiting for transaction confirmations and making small talk with a hooker is rather uncomfortable, mainly because they just won't shut up about Battlestar Galactica. In my experience, hookers who take bitcoins absolutely love Battlestar Galactica."

OMGTWFA

(Oh my god that was fucking awesome)
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October 01, 2012, 03:56:43 PM
#25
I found the subject line hilarious, as though prostitution were an institution that can "benefit".

I don't see how it could, however.  Perhaps not unless it were some sort of plausible-deniability way of exchanging funds... such as the client speaking a brainwallet out loud.

Maybe the client speaks half the brainwallet out loud (which changes for each encounter, and might be an innocuous non-incriminating phrase like "it sure was hot at the mall today"), and the other half (which doesn't change) is a tattoo visible only without underwear, and the prostitute has to go looking for it in order to complete the payment, in which case he can argue that he didn't actually make a payment, she went and helped herself to it or something, trying for some form of legal loophole to undefine the payment as a payment.  This could be called a dickwallet.
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October 01, 2012, 03:42:42 PM
#24
Certainly, but it's not trouble free. Horkabork has already explored this a year ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.533544

Too bad he seem to have left, he definitely wrote the most entertaining posts on Bitcointalk.
That was an amazing post.
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October 01, 2012, 02:29:35 PM
#22
Certainly, but it's not trouble free. Horkabork has already explored this a year ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.533544

Too bad he seem to have left, he definitely wrote the most entertaining posts on Bitcointalk.
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