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Topic: Can we beat a casino by python script ? (Read 1396 times)

newbie
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December 29, 2015, 10:47:37 AM
#28
Anything is worth a shot... Right?
hero member
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December 29, 2015, 10:39:46 AM
#27
You cannot beat the house and you should not beat the house such way cause if you get caught doing that then you won't receive any coins you won and you may also have to face many legal issues for doing it,there are also chance for you to end up somewhere losing some parts of your body.It's a casino.
legendary
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December 29, 2015, 10:37:56 AM
#26
So I was reading about python bots today and one of the tutorials I came across shows how can we write a python bot to play/beat online games through the server.Here's the link http://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-build-a-python-bot-that-can-play-web-games--active-11117

Before I start to program this bot,I wanted to know has anyone done this before ? Should I proceed with the algorithms or give up as its impossible?

There is now way for it to be done. At least not for games such as Dice etc as no matter how you change your bot or set its parameters, the HE will still be negative. I guess it could be possible to use it on some of the sites that provide Jackpot so that the bot only bets at times when the JP is over x amount. Could possibly give a +ev but not sure.
sr. member
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December 29, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
#25
The game that is demostrated can be botted since it is a client side game. The script basically automates the actions and thus cheats the game. For Bitcoin gambling, requests are sent to the server and process there. It is impossible for anyone to cheat the casino.
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December 29, 2015, 08:38:20 AM
#24
it is believed that to create a bot for gambling is not possible, one that will completely repeat the steps and logic of man, probably for some very narrow areas and specializations outside of some major ways, but how to bring the desired result, the result of the bot's assistant, the insurer ?, from the point of view of independence in gambling, how to beat himself or something
sr. member
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December 29, 2015, 08:11:58 AM
#23
The house edge.  Over time you will lose
legendary
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December 29, 2015, 08:08:12 AM
#22
Clearly ,the tutorial you have posted shows how you can use the bot to play the game and not manipulate the game.So don't think you're going anywhere with the bot your're developing unless you can literally hack down the server from which the random seeds are generated .
hero member
Activity: 546
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December 28, 2015, 01:32:17 PM
#21
I don't get what's so special with it but the there is only one thing I can assure you, you cant beat the house with such bots unless you'll exploit a certain casino site. If that really works, there will be no successful casinos right now. Exploiting is the only way to beat a casino, but is not tolerated. Just play with your luck Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 952
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December 28, 2015, 01:31:26 PM
#20
Going in the opposite direction, think that a bot can do efficient bets for giving wins in the short period.
After this win, you can restart the cycle playing with more money...but you (or the bot) should know when to stop....
Everybody says that the house always win: but if this was true, NOBODY never win a single coin....and that's not true...so why don't try and test it?
legendary
Activity: 1400
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December 28, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
#19

Script are stuff for making bets according to a pre-programmed strategy, even when you are sleeping (but I wouldn't recommend that). So it's about speed and comfortability not about inventing some sort of "wonder strategy" on it's own.
Yep! After some research I'm starting to realize now ,making a bot can only play the game just how a normal user will,nothing to do with beating the casino unless I can inject some most efficient algorithms to modify the scripts from the server side.
Yeah you're right unless you know some bug/vulnerability  you can't beat the house with a bot. figuring out bug like primedice had earlier where huffle robed a lot of btc from stunna.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
December 28, 2015, 01:19:03 PM
#18
i don't think so, if we can do that, we will see many programmers are richer than casinos' owners, but the fact is not that, so programming can't let you win in the long term unless you do sports arbitrage. Even if someone has a new programmer, casinos will improve the rule to stop them making money. besides, there are house edges, which help casinos win in the long term
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
December 28, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
#17
yes online gaming systems are beatable using bots. but u need to know what u are doing , if not you could loose just like that. good luck with python ,check out all the libraries  , check out Haskell too .

another note is ,Its not easy after all . u need a good understanding about AI
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December 28, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
#16
No, because if you could the casino would shut down since it would lose money.
legendary
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December 28, 2015, 01:10:12 PM
#15
You can't beat the casino in the long term.
The house edge WILL make you lose in the end.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
December 28, 2015, 01:05:40 PM
#14
well from what is see is that it gives u more option and give u a way to play more safely as it offers more features to bets to reduce ur risk. however, as statistics have said, there is no way u can win the house edge or else u can make all of them bankrupt already.
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December 28, 2015, 12:27:37 PM
#13
of course you cant do that if it was a possible thing to do no casinos would exist because they wouldnt make any profits out of players playing on it, in my opinion its impossible to beat the house edge with anything because if it was possible it wouldnt be profitable to run them
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1308
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December 28, 2015, 12:11:02 PM
#12
Finally, You'll create a martingale bot & it won't be successful because you don't have unlimited money Smiley
So don't bother to create another one...

Not exactly martingle I was looking for but something  advanced like totally modifying the script and its functions probably increasing the chances of win on the highest odds.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1308
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December 28, 2015, 12:09:49 PM
#11

Script are stuff for making bets according to a pre-programmed strategy, even when you are sleeping (but I wouldn't recommend that). So it's about speed and comfortability not about inventing some sort of "wonder strategy" on it's own.
Yep! After some research I'm starting to realize now ,making a bot can only play the game just how a normal user will,nothing to do with beating the casino unless I can inject some most efficient algorithms to modify the scripts from the server side.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1308
Get your game girl
December 28, 2015, 12:07:40 PM
#10
Why would it be online if it could beat some casino? Don't you think the creator would use it?

Actually if you see the link properly,the creator doesn't exactly show how to beat a casino but how to play any online game with your strategies.I was just trying to expand the ideas to improvise on the bot.
legendary
Activity: 1582
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December 28, 2015, 11:56:25 AM
#9
Why would you want to do that? The house edge is there, and you can't beat that. If it is for convenience in betting then I guess it should be ok, but I don't really understand that type of play since I don't really believe in gambling strategies for "casino like" games. So I do it for fun and if a bot is doing it for me it loses it's purpose I guess.
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