Can we encourage anyone to develop self control in order to minimize gambling? - page 2.

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Quote from: nicolecan13 on February 23, 2017, 02:41:17 PM

That's not impossible to encourage anyone to have develop self control and in fact self control is in your nature as a person. Well having more worst experiences of losing in gambling could probably make you realize in along run that maybe you need to have it. One way of encouraging a friend or any person who you happen to know is divert him with any sports activities and other pleasurable things in order to shortened his time priorities which affects hus gambling schedules in any time of the day.

Yeah I think we could encourage other to do it,
I mean we could let them do any other stuff that would keep them busy and distracted for gambling,
But it is up to them if they will do it we can not force somebody to do the things that they don't want to do.

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Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on February 23, 2017, 03:28:40 PM

Gambler who addicted can encourage, but need a people/person who oversee, at once become a tutor, means a people/person who can control such a gambler who addicted to follow the instructions or even force him/her(gambler who addicted).

I think the activity is not just sports, it can be anything which he/she likes and can distract from gambling activity, make him/her stay away from any gambling equipment and even erase he/she gambling account.

This is the wrong approach, since this is too forceful and the addicted will feel you are not trying to help him but to try to rule his life and that is not good and even if you help him to leave gambling temporally you can be sure that person will hide his activities from you and keep gambling and when that happens you will not be able to help him because you will not be aware of the situation.

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Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on February 23, 2017, 03:28:40 PM

Gambler who addicted can encourage, but need a people/person who oversee, at once become a tutor, means a people/person who can control such a gambler who addicted to follow the instructions or even force him/her(gambler who addicted).

I think the activity is not just sports, it can be anything which he/she likes and can distract from gambling activity, make him/her stay away from any gambling equipment and even erase he/she gambling account.

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I think you are starting a world war 3 here , erasing someone's gambling account is not really necessary to help them to quit gambling, it will just cause a fight between you two or worst, because if you really want to help them, you will do it in a better way, like encouraging him to do something that is worth of his time than gambling. For example is this forum, teach him to do signature campaign so he can earn bitcoin per week, and not to lose bitcoin everyday, and I think that is great.

To be honest, we can't really change someone by just saying good things to them, encouraging them to do good stuffs and quit the thing that they do that don't benefits them, because if they do really want to change, it must be from their heart, they must be dedicated, so that the "Change" that they are looking for can be achieve by them.

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Quote from: nicolecan13 on February 23, 2017, 02:41:17 PM

That's not impossible to encourage anyone to have develop self control and in fact self control is in your nature as a person. Well having more worst experiences of losing in gambling could probably make you realize in along run that maybe you need to have it. One way of encouraging a friend or any person who you happen to know is divert him with any sports activities and other pleasurable things in order to shortened his time priorities which affects hus gambling schedules in any time of the day.

Well that is true its really not impossbile to encourage anyone to develop self control but they own it but we can change it by the person whom you trust and also its really terrible to experience losing in gambling when you bet so much but you lost it like it was just nothing but i think in gambling you can minimize it by dating someone you like or having fun outside from your house going to bars and to parties their are alot of things to do Cheesy

and gambling will be soon deleted from your activities Cheesy

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To force people to self control you first have to agree that gambling is a bad thing and it isn't. It's a game of chance that is not good or bad, just like alcohol isn't good or bad.
It all depends on the player. If he uses the money he should be spending on food and bills, he's addicted and will ruin himself, but if he uses the money he would otherwise spend on partying or hobbies, there's nothing bad in it.

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Quote from: nicolecan13 on February 23, 2017, 02:41:17 PM

That's not impossible to encourage anyone to have develop self control and in fact self control is in your nature as a person. Well having more worst experiences of losing in gambling could probably make you realize in along run that maybe you need to have it. One way of encouraging a friend or any person who you happen to know is divert him with any sports activities and other pleasurable things in order to shortened his time priorities which affects hus gambling schedules in any time of the day.

Or maybe just let him have it the hard way. Let them have a bad experience in gambling and they will eventually try to develop self control. Some people don't want to be controlled or persuaded by other people. I also believe that self control is learned by yourself. It's different to all of us. Some can easily control themselves and some can't. There are some that can control themselves by having a reward and/or punishment on their actions. Some do positive and negative reinforcements. You better search for ways to discipline yourself as if you're a lab rat and find out which works best for you.

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So i guess the OP answers his question .
I will say Yes and i am agree that it is possible to encourage anyone particularly controlling himself or herself .
Our mind is the only barrier if we accept things and changes all is possible. Diverting your activites is a good way if you can't resist gambling in your mind .encouraging someone needs time and effort especially if he is willing to change his ways.

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Quote from: bering on February 25, 2017, 01:34:43 PM

yes it possible but the results is still depend on the person themselves because even we encourage people with strong effort to distract their attention to the gambling but if they could not able and do not have strong desire to stop gamble i think it would be useless

I do agree that if individuals don't have that desire to come out of gambling or restricting from not to gamble every day then it is almost impossible to do it. But if gamblers decide to control themselves then they can find many ways to do it. One example is they always playing with a small fixed amount and once in a week or couple of times in a month then they can reduce their losses gambling. But if one gamble with small amount every day then over the time one can lose a lot of money.

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Self control to me is keeping your house in order and when you lose you dont gloat about it and when you win, you enjoy in peace. But this self control is not something that can be learned. To me, its personal as what I will lose and make noise about it, to someone else, its just an amount lost for fun. What we can only teach is to continue preaching about just betting or gambling what you can afford to lose personally.

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Yes why not, we can encourage anyone to develop self control in order to minimize gambling by simply teaching them that being addicted to gambling is not a good help to our mentality and behavior. So we must apply and implement this virtue for us to avoid big losses in money though it takes process before it can be done.

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yes it possible but the results is still depend on the person themselves because even we encourage people with strong effort to distract their attention to the gambling but if they could not able and do not have strong desire to stop gamble i think it would be useless

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Its hard to encourage anyone to develop self-control to order to minimize gambling because once you started to gamble its hard to get out of it. When we gamble our emotions and feeling become irrational and we totally forgot our self-control. So to talk to someone and encourage the individual will take a lot of effort on your side as well. You should probably set his mind that gambling will he will not always win in gambling and should put or just save his money instead of playing it in a casino.

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Quote from: neochiny on February 25, 2017, 06:33:12 AM

It's good to, once in a while, remind someone we care about. Sometimes, just a word or two coming from someone who cares about us would help.

But, come on. Don't be so weak, to the point where someone has to stop or remind you to control your gambling.
Never let your gambling be destructive, to you or your family. It's got to start with you. Do not depend on others to stop your own destructive behavior. If you decide to gamble, then you better make sure you can stop.

While this would be a rational response, humans most of the time don’t take decision like that, especially with something like gambling that does not require any kind of planning or anything, since all of the people that became addicted to something did not planed that to happen.

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Quote from: nicolecan13 on February 23, 2017, 02:41:17 PM

That's not impossible to encourage anyone to have develop self control and in fact self control is in your nature as a person. Well having more worst experiences of losing in gambling could probably make you realize in along run that maybe you need to have it. One way of encouraging a friend or any person who you happen to know is divert him with any sports activities and other pleasurable things in order to shortened his time priorities which affects hus gambling schedules in any time of the day.

Now I think divert in activities like sports that will not help much, because surely after finish they can gamble online at home on a night when there was no work. Maybe there should be the intention from oneself to can change or a bad experience that can make aware and changing. Push to develop self-control it will help a little, the rest depends on the person.

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that's only the way I think it is giving them a reward that they can't get in gambling , or challenging them in a way they really want for them.it is really hard.to encourage people who doesn't want to here things from others and just want to rely on themselves.

It's not easy to ask someone and encourage them in quitting. But if you will give them some reward, I guess they will pursue and beat your challenge that way and also another thing is that you are encouraging them to quit. So it will be a win-win situation for both of you and at the same time you helped them to quit.

bounty system won't possibly not work since theirs a big possibilities that if the bounty rewards will end gamblers will cameback to play their old games. And i think the best thing we can do is to advice those gamblers to minimize their game and tell them how worst it would came when they wouldn't stop their bad tantrums. Although our advices will not work but surely they will realize in the end of the game that our sweet talks at them is truly nice for their sake.

It will still work, don't think that way because you are going to practice his friend to quit gambling. And I don't think so that he will just take the challenge for the bounty because if that is so, he will refuse the challenge and just go back with gambling. It can make his appetite to loose in gambling if he didn't gamble for a longer time.

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there are some things in life that people have to gain themselves, you can't hand some experiences to others. they have to go there, experience themselves and slowly learn it!

and self control is an important one of them. and it is not for gambling but it is true about all your life. in other words you gain self control ability in your life then gambling is a small part that you use that control in. which means no amount of encouragement works on some people.

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We need to make them understand the disaster that happens when we lose self control while we're into gambling. Major factor is that if addiction happens sure one will be forced to leave gambling. So to have a stability in gambling its good to keep ourselves within certain limits on spending on gambling.

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We can encourage anyone to develop self control in order to minimize gambling. If they want to. But If they don't want we can't encourage them. Just show what is the advantages of minimizing gambling, just show some proofs so that many will encourage to minimize gambling.

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how you can change the personality of someone? selfcontrol is not a thing you can always have it depend if you are too emotional and therefore too anxious, it depend on the character of the person you take in consideration, in fact some people are born to not gamble ever they can't win, other have enormous luck because also more determined in what they do

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Of course we can encourage but not just for developing to minimize their gambling activity but why not to complete forget gambling. This is very good for girls out there and you can ask them to help out your friend easily to get his attention. And if your friend is the girl his type then for sure he can forget gambling and that girl can help her to encourage to develop everything to stay away gambling.

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