Can we stop promoting scam project? - page 2.

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Quote from: Pffrt on January 27, 2019, 12:35:42 AM

Most of the bounty hunters do not get payment despite their hard working and some gets a little with shit token. Can we prevent it? Just an idea.

What if we everybody stop to promote a project which offers only token?
For launching a project, the project owner or developer should have some money to promote the project. Say for example- they have to escrow a minimum of 40% of the bounty allocation in term of usd or btc. Only then we can prevent scam ico and bounty hunter will get their money. Can we start following this rule?

Either you want or not, there are scam projects unless there is punishment for that as well as we continue discussing scam projects while participants participate in suspected projects. I pleaded the forum members not to participate in suspected projects which looked like scam but nobody listened to me. Probably everyone noticed that some of released projects look too suspected and the question is why ti participate in such projects? Either people are greedy or people hope that a particular projects is not scam actually I do not know what making them to participate in junk projects. Anyway I think, people's wishing to earn money causes them to continue participating in scam projects.

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Quote from: Youghoor on November 20, 2019, 11:33:25 AM

Promotion of scam projects can never stop in the crypto ecosystem and space. There are a lot of people in the crypto space that will do anything for any small amount of dollars paid in trading cryptocurrency. The only way scam projects can be somehow eliminated for the crypto space, is when moderators on this forum decide to introduce strong rules regarding the kind of projects launched on this platform and validate the authenticity of the project before allowing the promotion of the projects here on the forum. Without proper validation of any project that wants to launch on the forum, promoting scam projects will never stop.

when there are rules about legitimate projects and it is possible to enter into this forum an experiment and an introduction may be possible beforehand, but in my opinion it is difficult because of the limited distance. one way not to get caught up in a fraudulent project we must be able to understand how to determine a legitimate project. so equip yourself before promoting a new project, although sometimes we still have the potential to be fooled by fraudulent projects

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Quote from: Youghoor on November 20, 2019, 11:33:25 AM

Promotion of scam projects can never stop in the crypto ecosystem and space.

It can stop if there is a regulation that scammers will go to jail and their supporter as well.
The thing is, the market is being abuse by scammers and therefore we need to be smart all the time as that's the only way to combat it.

Quote from: Youghoor on November 20, 2019, 11:33:25 AM

There are a lot of people in the crypto space that will do anything for any small amount of dollars paid in trading cryptocurrency. The only way scam projects can be somehow eliminated for the crypto space, is when moderators on this forum decide to introduce strong rules regarding the kind of projects launched on this platform and validate the authenticity of the project before allowing the promotion of the projects here on the forum. Without proper validation of any project that wants to launch on the forum, promoting scam projects will never stop.

Sometimes these people promoting are just a victim also because they don't know that the project is scam, it will sometimes go scam only after they raise the amount they need or even less, and its too late, those promoter will not be paid as promise at the same time, but investors will be hurt more since they are the ones who risk money thinking its a good investment.

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Quote from: ilovealtcoins on November 20, 2019, 10:40:26 PM

Quote from: Oneandpure on November 19, 2019, 11:56:55 PM

Quote from: ilovealtcoins on November 19, 2019, 11:45:29 PM

Bounty hunters are a job for those who wish to own tokens when they are not eligible to buy them. In my opinion, the only way to prevent fraudulent projects is to study other areas such as technology, finance, consider all other elements of the project and then decide to invest in them. The money is yours and you have the right to use it the way you want it. Stop blaming bounty hunters.

Scam project always running after pass third and sixth week we doing bounty campaign task, I know many bounty participants are disappointed but we have faced risk become bounty participants where some time can get profit and some time waste our live with scam bounty campaign, we have stop and looking other campaign look trusted and not scam for joining.

I think scam projects are promoted on many popular YouTube and twitter channels. The bounty hunters are mostly newbies and they just advertise as simple as liking and sharing social media channels. I think it's best to refer to signature campaigns with many senior members like heroes and legends. But overall, the bounty hunter market is only part of the incentive for bonus projects. And considering review sites for ICO projects, IEO can still misjudge.

I don't think that scam projects are promoted on social media sites such as YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and so on because there are still legitimate projects who promotes on the said social media sites, but it turns out to be unsuccessful that they didn't reach the softcap and the hardcap. I think we can't stop scammers from promoting scam projects because it will be difficult for us to find and to stop them, that is why it is better to prevent participating in project that you think it is a scam, maybe it is the only way for scammers to stop promoting scam projects if there are no people who wants to participate.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 19, 2019, 11:56:55 PM

Quote from: ilovealtcoins on November 19, 2019, 11:45:29 PM

Bounty hunters are a job for those who wish to own tokens when they are not eligible to buy them. In my opinion, the only way to prevent fraudulent projects is to study other areas such as technology, finance, consider all other elements of the project and then decide to invest in them. The money is yours and you have the right to use it the way you want it. Stop blaming bounty hunters.

Scam project always running after pass third and sixth week we doing bounty campaign task, I know many bounty participants are disappointed but we have faced risk become bounty participants where some time can get profit and some time waste our live with scam bounty campaign, we have stop and looking other campaign look trusted and not scam for joining.

I think scam projects are promoted on many popular YouTube and twitter channels. The bounty hunters are mostly newbies and they just advertise as simple as liking and sharing social media channels. I think it's best to refer to signature campaigns with many senior members like heroes and legends. But overall, the bounty hunter market is only part of the incentive for bonus projects. And considering review sites for ICO projects, IEO can still misjudge.

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Promotion of scam projects can never stop in the crypto ecosystem and space. There are a lot of people in the crypto space that will do anything for any small amount of dollars paid in trading cryptocurrency. The only way scam projects can be somehow eliminated for the crypto space, is when moderators on this forum decide to introduce strong rules regarding the kind of projects launched on this platform and validate the authenticity of the project before allowing the promotion of the projects here on the forum. Without proper validation of any project that wants to launch on the forum, promoting scam projects will never stop.

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The era has changed, ICO isnt popular anymore right now, it was changed by IEO
IEO doesnt need bounty hunter to promote their project, just promote in big exchange so they will get big investment (if it is good)
it is a win-win solution in my opinion, to avoid more new shit project

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Hardly imagine that people would start checking the projects before investing in them. It is much easier to invest in every single project that goes live, instead of carefully checking and doing the right investment decision.

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Quote from: Aying on November 20, 2019, 10:16:53 AM

Quote from: Pffrt on January 27, 2019, 12:35:42 AM

Most of the bounty hunters do not get payment despite their hard working and some gets a little with shit token. Can we prevent it? Just an idea.

What if we everybody stop to promote a project which offers only token?
For launching a project, the project owner or developer should have some money to promote the project. Say for example- they have to escrow a minimum of 40% of the bounty allocation in term of usd or btc. Only then we can prevent scam ico and bounty hunter will get their money. Can we start following this rule?

I can agree my 100% to this idea. a lot of users should do this thing and avoid to join or participate on bounties that don't pay the hard works of each of us. a real projects that will have a huge company in future need investments. they need funds to run a project that everyone can benefits. users here and bounty participants should pay with btc, eth or usd. works of bounty hunters is not a joke they are promoting and included the work of marketing. they are also part of the success and fail. so we need to be treated like a real workers.

Indeed, we should not support a project that can take the money of other people, instead, we should inform them that the particular project is fraud and can possibly take their money away if they invest. We are the one here who help each other. Avoiding some scam people and projects will make us grow in this digital world. There are lots of scam projects out there and there are still people being scammed because of lack of knowledge, I recommend that they should read whitepaper which is located on their forum posts also in their website because almost all of their plans is stated there, also you can check the reviews of others investors if that project is really profitable.

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Quote from: Ducky1 on November 20, 2019, 09:08:24 AM

Your idea is good, but we cannot know for sure whether the project will be scam or not. Some projects show good results after the bounty campaign, with a good price for their coin. I also met bounty campaigns that paid for work with ether or bitcoin.

The idea of OP is interesting that should crypto projects need to follow, but your's is not. but we are now participating in token campaigns because there are only few projects that pay for btc and fiat. as long as there are campaigns would not pay btc or etc.. we are obligated to participate in this project or its your own choice to join. we can do now is to have a hope for the upcoming bounty campaigns to be succeed and do a own research to get away on scam projects. crypto projects are also unpredicted we can not know if they going to succeed or not or they do their hardwork to be known. better to learn more so we can earn and without any complaints. Cheesy

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Quote from: Pffrt on January 27, 2019, 12:35:42 AM

Most of the bounty hunters do not get payment despite their hard working and some gets a little with shit token. Can we prevent it? Just an idea.

What if we everybody stop to promote a project which offers only token?
For launching a project, the project owner or developer should have some money to promote the project. Say for example- they have to escrow a minimum of 40% of the bounty allocation in term of usd or btc. Only then we can prevent scam ico and bounty hunter will get their money. Can we start following this rule?

I can agree my 100% to this idea. a lot of users should do this thing and avoid to join or participate on bounties that don't pay the hard works of each of us. a real projects that will have a huge company in future need investments. they need funds to run a project that everyone can benefits. users here and bounty participants should pay with btc, eth or usd. works of bounty hunters is not a joke they are promoting and included the work of marketing. they are also part of the success and fail. so we need to be treated like a real workers.

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It is a nice idea. Projects that are legit will not hesitate to do and agree to escrow and pay some amount of money in order to start a project, in this case, they will do their best to be better or on the other hand, they will never start a scam project at all. But still, there are and will always be scam projects because people keep involving themselves with this. Most bounty hunters do not care whether a project is a scam or not, as long as they can earn money from it, they will grab the opportunity no matter what the consequence is. That is the sad thing here in the forum.

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Quote from: k@suy on November 20, 2019, 09:46:01 AM

Quote from: Ducky1 on November 20, 2019, 09:08:24 AM

Your idea is good, but we cannot know for sure whether the project will be scam or not. Some projects show good results after the bounty campaign, with a good price for their coin. I also met bounty campaigns that paid for work with ether or bitcoin.

We should stop it, by not joining their campaigns, we all know how to diagnose it if it is scam or not by looking to the company credentials, team profile, allocation and whitepaper. Dont be fool when they say they will pay us more when campaign ends, they only want us to promote for them so that they will scam more people but at the end of the day, they will run and not pays us.

Also if we found out that a certain project was scam, then we can use our power to tell or inform people to beware of that project, how are we going to do it? Then, we should share some proof, by investigating well and then share it in all social media, to our friends or even here in Bitcointalk so many people can check and beware of it so they will not join bounty anymore, as there were some newbies out there doesn't know well how to check legit projects.

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Quote from: Ducky1 on November 20, 2019, 09:08:24 AM

Your idea is good, but we cannot know for sure whether the project will be scam or not. Some projects show good results after the bounty campaign, with a good price for their coin. I also met bounty campaigns that paid for work with ether or bitcoin.

We should stop it, by not joining their campaigns, we all know how to diagnose it if it is scam or not by looking to the company credentials, team profile, allocation and whitepaper. Dont be fool when they say they will pay us more when campaign ends, they only want us to promote for them so that they will scam more people but at the end of the day, they will run and not pays us.

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Quote from: Pffrt on January 27, 2019, 12:35:42 AM

Most of the bounty hunters do not get payment despite their hard working and some gets a little with shit token. Can we prevent it? Just an idea.

What if we everybody stop to promote a project which offers only token?
For launching a project, the project owner or developer should have some money to promote the project. Say for example- they have to escrow a minimum of 40% of the bounty allocation in term of usd or btc. Only then we can prevent scam ico and bounty hunter will get their money. Can we start following this rule?

Escrow would give assurance to bounty hunters that they will be paid later on after the campaign has finished. But I doubt most campaign will put up advance fund unless they are well financed. Bounty rewards are normally taken from that generated funds from ICO so project would likely wont shell out before they have sure funds.

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Your idea is good, but we cannot know for sure whether the project will be scam or not. Some projects show good results after the bounty campaign, with a good price for their coin. I also met bounty campaigns that paid for work with ether or bitcoin.

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Quote from: Lecam on November 20, 2019, 06:55:34 AM

Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on November 20, 2019, 03:50:12 AM

Quote from: kaneki007 on November 20, 2019, 01:53:56 AM

I don't think it will work, because there will definitely be people/communities who will promote scam projects and scam projects will not be lost. all we can do is avoid scam projects by doing research before investing or buying on ICO/IEO

if the Scam project launches the bounty program it cannot be avoided there will definitely be a participant, and correct you say, but there must be someone who is investigating, usually I look for that information through Icobench or TrackICO, there we know the rating of a project

Yes true scam project is always there and no one can avoid it because of bounty and many are joining as a participants to promote the project. So its hard to stop scam project because of bounty hunters and they don't know if the project are scam so i think we can not stop it and not easily stop it.

I have seen the ongoing bounty campaigns of scam projects and the bounty hunters rush to join their high paying advertisement tasks. Eth classic vision and Etherum beacon bounty campaigns are good examples for this case, the snapshot of Etherum network never have taken by the "developers" and the bounty campaign paritcpants are never get paid due to the scam project. ETCV scammed more than 10 ETH AFAIK.

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Quote from: Lecam on November 20, 2019, 06:55:34 AM

Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on November 20, 2019, 03:50:12 AM

Quote from: kaneki007 on November 20, 2019, 01:53:56 AM

I don't think it will work, because there will definitely be people/communities who will promote scam projects and scam projects will not be lost. all we can do is avoid scam projects by doing research before investing or buying on ICO/IEO

if the Scam project launches the bounty program it cannot be avoided there will definitely be a participant, and correct you say, but there must be someone who is investigating, usually I look for that information through Icobench or TrackICO, there we know the rating of a project

Yes true scam project is always there and no one can avoid it because of bounty and many are joining as a participants to promote the project. So its hard to stop scam project because of bounty hunters and they don't know if the project are scam so i think we can not stop it and not easily stop it.

understand it is difficult to avoid scam projects, they have a way to manipulate existing data. The best solution so far is to increase knowledge in conducting research, although research sometimes does not guarantee that the project is valid or not but can minimize being caught up in fraud projects.

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Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on November 20, 2019, 03:50:12 AM

Quote from: kaneki007 on November 20, 2019, 01:53:56 AM

I don't think it will work, because there will definitely be people/communities who will promote scam projects and scam projects will not be lost. all we can do is avoid scam projects by doing research before investing or buying on ICO/IEO

if the Scam project launches the bounty program it cannot be avoided there will definitely be a participant, and correct you say, but there must be someone who is investigating, usually I look for that information through Icobench or TrackICO, there we know the rating of a project

Yes true scam project is always there and no one can avoid it because of bounty and many are joining as a participants to promote the project. So its hard to stop scam project because of bounty hunters and they don't know if the project are scam so i think we can not stop it and not easily stop it.

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Quote from: coin_1122 on November 20, 2019, 05:41:03 AM

Quote from: kaneki007 on November 20, 2019, 01:53:56 AM

I don't think it will work, because there will definitely be people/communities who will promote scam projects and scam projects will not be lost. all we can do is avoid scam projects by doing research before investing or buying on ICO/IEO

Exactly, now a day it is very easy to find the scam project, after finding we should not support the project by spreading the negative news about the project. Otherwise, many people like us will lose their money by these scam project, we should research a lot before promoting any projects otherwise we will finish up our work without any payments.

It seems that now there aren't many people who promote scam projects again, although there are still a few that promote it. At least it is better than last year, scam projects everywhere. Now many people are smart in doing research and choosing project that need the to be promoted and maybe some people have retired because they are tired of joining bounties and the coins are of no value due to the scam project.

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