Can you believe that this dice is real? - page 2.

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Quote from: 2double0 on October 30, 2019, 08:46:09 PM

I am shocked to see such enormous amounts in BTC [yeah, all those bets are in BTC] are being played over Yobit dice while we cannot even search for the provably fair part of the played games or 'bets' specifically. Alike me, I think you will also be shocked if you visit that part of the exchange and see it yourself. Do you believe what you see there is true? Do you think there are are real players sending those big bets or is it just a big show from Yobit to lure us to play their dice game?

Never found yobit put a provably fair words on their dice game though, I think they are okay if people call them not provably fair.

I have no idea about the bets and it's just hard to believe tbh, it could be their internal admin or could be whales who love both trading and dice game and they don't care about the bet amount (since they can make much profit form their trades). I'm not defending yobit but I think many whales there, so it is possible they are real players.

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Quote from: Hamphser on October 31, 2019, 02:05:31 AM

Does yobit have a dice game?

Yes they have. The screenshot made by OP is from them.

Quote from: tsaroz on October 31, 2019, 12:29:36 PM

I can confirm one of them were me.

Seriously? since there were only 3 names on the screenshot, which one is you? I've visited them but it not working on me, can anyone also verify if the site is loading too slow which takes almost forever and unreachable as of the moment?

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Quote from: 2double0 on October 30, 2019, 08:46:09 PM

Watching the image above, I hope you have already got a glimpse of what I'm going to talk about - Yobit dice. Yes, while browsing different sections of the exchange, I decided to visit the dice part of exchange and what I saw was completely unbelievable. I am shocked to see such enormous amounts in BTC [yeah, all those bets are in BTC] are being played over Yobit dice while we cannot even search for the provably fair part of the played games or 'bets' specifically. Alike me, I think you will also be shocked if you visit that part of the exchange and see it yourself. Do you believe what you see there is true? Do you think there are are real players sending those big bets or is it just a big show from Yobit to lure us to play their dice game?

I don't know anyone who could afford to bet that much and who would in the right mind make such big bets. It's not possible to prove or disprove it, though, right? It could be just a fancy image to attract people, it could be a rich gambler actually spending that kind of money on gambling or it could be #3 which seems most plausible to me. Real bets, real wins, and losses, but made by a person who works for Yobit one way or another (so transactions are real, but the money is not really won or lost by anyone). This would be the most logical thing to do because this would allow Yobit to have proof that the transactions really happened (just in case). I don't like Yobit, so I would not gamble there anyway.

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Quote from: CryptoVzla on October 30, 2019, 11:38:33 PM

i dont think that player are real human since he betting 3k+ per bet, maybe its was yobit team that try to attract people playing their dice game.
nothing special on yobit dice game, with simple interface, im never win on this website so far

I can confirm one of them were me. Just wanted to make some bitcoins for withdrawal fees but ended up losing all. There could be many gambling addicted people like me that would like to try their luck before withdrawing from the exchange.
Personally I think the outcomes are fair but the house edge is 4%, one of the highest which brings chances of your wining to low. As a comparison, crypto-games's dice has 0.8% house edge.

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Quote from: 2double0 on October 30, 2019, 08:46:09 PM

Watching the image above, I hope you have already got a glimpse of what I'm going to talk about - Yobit dice. Yes, while browsing different sections of the exchange, I decided to visit the dice part of exchange and what I saw was completely unbelievable. I am shocked to see such enormous amounts in BTC [yeah, all those bets are in BTC] are being played over Yobit dice while we cannot even search for the provably fair part of the played games or 'bets' specifically. Alike me, I think you will also be shocked if you visit that part of the exchange and see it yourself. Do you believe what you see there is true? Do you think there are are real players sending those big bets or is it just a big show from Yobit to lure us to play their dice game?

I use to spend some minutes watching their dice and I also sometimes think about those bet being from real players : I often see some familiar names betting huge amounts ( like a couple of those you screecapped) and
what really makes me wonder , beside the fact their dice game don't have the provably fair part that is the main issue, is that they have a 4% house edge if my math is not flawed.

I mean 4% house edge!!!

Those players give away so much money while they could bet with an abverage of 1% house edge or even a 0.8% one. Can't really understand if it is ignorance or lazyness from those players : either way how can they be still so rich?

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I wont speculate whether they are real players or not as I have no proofs at all. Saying about the bet amount, I think it is not that huge compared to other sites where I usually see many players bet over 1 btc or even 10btc on single bet. The main important here is that about how we choose a legit place to gamble, at least we should play on provably fair sites although we are betting small amount only. Provably fair system is a must these days to make sure that the house is not manipulating the result.

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The most curious thing here is that youbit, an exchange which is proven scam and people usually try to not keep their funds on this exchange cause there were a lot of cases that they didn't let their users to withdraw money, why will someone deposit money for gambling there? I can't see anything entertaining on yobit. Maybe I am wrong and someone who was trading and didn't gain as much profit as he/she wanted, decided to gamble and increase this way but still I can't trust to this company, so it's 50/50 whether those bets are real or just for attracting new people.

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Its real users complain that they can not withdraw from YoBit so they play dice with stuck money

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If this is the high rollers then it is not really that big. I have seen much much bigger everyday on stake and primedice. The longer you stay in casino world the more you start to see that type of gamblers in your casino. This is seriously not that big, sure maybe in yobit it may look big because you are not used to seeing that type of level wagering from yobit so it may look a bit weird, it is about not being able to see such a level from there and not that level is not around.

There are many places that have that much wagering, it is not new and there has been one for years, primedice has a lot more than this for 3-4 years now, there were even bigger back in the day but then bitcoin was lower. So all in all this is not new in casino world but it certainly new for yobit.

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Quote from: Mahanton on October 31, 2019, 07:43:17 AM

Real players or not then we can do anything to verify it and yes those are insanely amount of BTC being rolled on.

I believe these values shown are just fake, can't be real at all and even if they are being played for real, then these look like bots set up by Yobit itself in their exchange to show their real users that such big bets are being played and won there, thus encouraging those real users to bet big and "lose" mostly. Because when nothing is defined there, no house edge, no player hash, no secret hash, and not even the provably fair issue that's raised by OP, I believe that you'll just shoot in the dark with no possibilities of reaching target.

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Regarding on dice on yobit,
yes it do has and its already been a while for them to had this game.This would only pop out on their top webpage if you do have
the balance of minimum of 0.01 BTC and if your balance is below to that amount then it wont show off.

Ah well, there you tried to go over smart. It'll show as 0.01 BTC in the right hand side box (I had an account there and I checked all this after watching this thread) and no, you don't need a minimum balance to see the Dice feature in the exchange (I had 0 balance still I was able to visit and check the ongoing bets). But yeah, in the right hand side, you'll see a drop down box with set amounts with minimum bet of 0.001 BTC, but that's not the case if you visit their dice page. You can even play with 1 satoshi after visiting that page.

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It seems like no one in the comment section who can verify the legitimacy of those bets. Well, I dont usually play dice, I only did 2-3 times of course with just small amount of bets, but this one's different, with how quite huge the bets are, you can't avoid thinking all of them are fake. Maybe because Yobit isn't that popular in this field, they're known to be an exchange instead.

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Quote from: Hamphser on October 31, 2019, 02:05:31 AM

It looks like a show off to me to attract more gamblers but if some people can afford to bet like that with big amount, why not? I still doubt that those were real players with the amount like that for a dice game.

Does yobit have a dice game?

Real players or not then we can do anything to verify it and yes those are insanely amount of BTC being rolled on.Regarding on dice on yobit,
yes it do has and its already been a while for them to had this game.This would only pop out on their top webpage if you do have
the balance of minimum of 0.01 BTC and if your balance is below to that amount then it wont show off.

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Quote from: mitchr4 on October 31, 2019, 06:49:15 AM

Quote from: Itsmylife on October 31, 2019, 05:56:34 AM

I once saw a guy bet 50BTC every time on bitdice.me in 2015. For us, that bitcoins is a lot of money but it is nothing to him.
So I believe what you saw is real.

Other popular dice sites from the past also have people who bet with that much bitcoin so no doubt. The problem is Yobit that we know is an exchange site also has a Dice game and also we don't know the origin of the "Probably fair" is not clear. I once played there making money and losing money, but I don't know if this game is still available because I don't see the Dice game tab on their dashboard.

I think the dice depending on the algorithm of the website or code uses. It might depend on numbers of players or using the site I don't gamble too much on this website but in my experience, your chance of winning was really low considering the probability of the dice. I'm a programmer myself the dice game could easily be manipulated in many ways and we don't know the code used in the website was fair or alter to a very low percentage of winning. But in my theory depending on the user of the website they ill let you win if they have enough users to gain the losses.

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Quote from: Itsmylife on October 31, 2019, 05:56:34 AM

I once saw a guy bet 50BTC every time on bitdice.me in 2015. For us, that bitcoins is a lot of money but it is nothing to him.
So I believe what you saw is real.

Other popular dice sites from the past also have people who bet with that much bitcoin so no doubt. The problem is Yobit that we know is an exchange site also has a Dice game and also we don't know the origin of the "Probably fair" is not clear. I once played there making money and losing money, but I don't know if this game is still available because I don't see the Dice game tab on their dashboard.

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There is nothing to get surprised, there are people who spend big in gambling expecting big wins. Only thing is the provably fairness, while spending huge fund gamblers will look for it. Here the gambler seems to hold a big sum of money which is why he spends without any hesitation. In most of the gambling sites on the high rolls we can see such a big amounts placed for betting.

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I once saw a guy bet 50BTC every time on bitdice.me in 2015. For us, that bitcoins is a lot of money but it is nothing to him.
So I believe what you saw is real.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on October 31, 2019, 04:06:51 AM

You need to come and join actual gambling sites my friend! Yolodice has wagering competitions going on all the time and especially when that happens,,, the big whales come in and splash serious bets.

I have seen people bet much more than 0..35BTC Even I have seen 10 and 20 BTC bets. And this was even when price was above $10k!

I am sure he has seen whales as well in dice sites but what he is asking is that is it normal in site which has no option to set odds and no way to verify if the roll/outcome were fair.

His question is legit but anyway Yobit dice is not that popular.

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Winning is normal regardless of the amount but I don't usually play in yobit dice since I don't hear a lot of good reviews on their gambling platform.
Actually it depends on the users, if they are satisfied playing in that certain site, let's give them the respect, and if we don't like the site, we can always find another site to play which there's a lot available in the crypto space.

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You need to come and join actual gambling sites my friend! Yolodice has wagering competitions going on all the time and especially when that happens,,, the big whales come in and splash serious bets.

I have seen people bet much more than 0..35BTC Even I have seen 10 and 20 BTC bets. And this was even when price was above $10k!

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Quote from: 2double0 on October 30, 2019, 08:46:09 PM

~snip~

I'm not surprised with this, this is not natural
this is most likely a game from the Yobit itself
they are doing fake activities
I'm not accusing, but many companies are currently doing this just to attract new users.

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