Topic: Can you create a signature campaign for OP posts? (Read 821 times)

The problem with this kind of rule in a campaign is not only that spam threads might be created every hour, you might also see an increase of number of threads with redundant topics. Topic that are already discussed a few months ago or perhaps years and the op will just say, sorry I was not able to catch that. Its the same with posts that requires them to post specially in the first 3 pages.They will post because they want to be paid and not to share anything that is worth sharing to the community.

I understand that you are probably angry because you don't like the pay, I see you have tried to participate in 2 different sig campaigns in the last few days.

It's either that, or OP has no experience in running campaigns. Afterall, he's just a Full Member here, which earned just 4 merits in 24 months, spent only 5 merits (out of 52) in 24 months, therefore nothing good can be expected from him...

This looks for me as a certain manner which should not be enforced during a campaign.

Besides, the payment for the participants is ridiculous, taking into account the effort they should put in order to accomplish the requirements. Even more ridiculous seems the discrepancy between payments for Sr. Members and payments for Heroes / Legendaries. As I can see, a Sr. Member earns 400% less than Heroes / Legendaries. I think I never saw such a discrepancy before.

In addition, the rule "In total, its 5 OP Posts + 5 Posts on the first page of a thread and 10 more on the 1,2 or 3rd page of any thread." is supposed only to bring spam, as I find to be extremely difficult for a legit user to accomplish it.

This campaign is a great example for how things should not be done and I'll add this exemple to the thread Are there needed general (common sense) rules for signature campaigns?.

16 members * 5 threads = 80 threads per week
80 threads per week = 320 threads per month
That is equal to 23 threads every 2 days..

Keep in mind that each member will most likely write at least 6 posts per week to make sure at least 5 will count. That changes the final answer to.. 27 threads every 2 days.

Speaking from purely personal experience: When you have to hit a high max target in order to maximize your weekly payment (e.g. BitVest paying a maximum of 60 posts/week), you get to a point where you struggle to hit that target and therefore you start bullshitting. This is something I really do not want to do, but subconsciously I did it every now and then. And I'm sure the best of us do it.

23 threads/2 days as a requirement is gonna hit BitcoinTalk hard. I think I've made 4 threads in the past month and I barely ever feel the need to do it unless I have an opinion I really want to share or some news I'd like to tell others about. Trust me, there's gonna be a point where these participants will not know what to write threads about anymore as they'll run out of news articles.. so you can warmly welcome bullshit, shit-threads and spam.


I second your thoughts.


Big difference between paying for posts and paying for threads. I can write +50 posts a week but I assure you that I'm gonna run out of ideas for new threads very often. I expect a lot of "is craig wright satoshi or not?? what do you think  " kind of threads..

How are you going to decide whether a thread is going to be counted toward the weekly requirement or not? "Not paying them" sounds kinda fishy to me. One member may have a legitimate question, ask it and then you decide it doesn't count because the question's been asked before?

They will not get paid then. They are doing that anyways, our campaign is not going to change that. The admin of the forum could have blocked signatures a long time ago if he really wanted.

Sure, but it sets the precedent that this kind of behavior is both desirable to the advertiser and permitted by the forum. I suspect we might see other, larger, campaigns start to ask for similar posting requirements.

For a good poster, it might not be a problem, but we know that ~90% of bounty spammers aren't good posters. Most will open threads which have been discussed 100 times before, or are simply legalized plagiarism in the form of stolen content with a link at the bottom.

We also know that bounty spammers don't just see their posts being trashed and accept it. Any thread of theirs which is trashed will simply prompt them to create more so they can still hit their quota.

I think there is no reason to worry too much, as far as I can see the campaign is looking for a total of 16 members which is a totally insignificant number when compared to what had the largest spam campaign with over 600 members producing thousands of spam posts per day.

For a good poster, it's no problem to open 5 threads every week - but given the pay rates, such will not apply to the campaign. For anyone who is afraid of spam, report it to moderators, and I personally think this campaign will last for a very short time.

I've seen so many complains about this campaign both on the thread and here and to me, it's seem BM doesn't give any concern about it or doesn't even know the weight of what he/she is pulling.
They are never going to increase the allocation also because the amount in the escrow address won't fit. It's better they adjust the rules so they won't end up tagged for accepting spammers into their campaign.

20 threads per month. Approximately $10 for Sr Members and $40 for Legendary/Hero so more Legendary and Hero members will be attracted. It looks like a trap to me.

This is basically an incentive for members to spam the forum. Imagine only 20 users join the campaign. That is 400 threads per month REQUIRED, or 100 per week. Where the hell will this thing go towards except more shitposting than we've ever seen before...

I dont think they need to make a lot of thread  the task is only to make your own original post, and they never ask for what would be the topic inside.
It will create a lot of spam since its required and thats the problem, and the payment is lower than normal campaign we have here. Its better for him to bid in auction forum ads than having that campaign. (Its possible but not a good idea)

Spam will happen if this will be implemented or will be approved by the mods. Signature campaign is a unique way to market your project in the forum but if you like to have a lot of threads that talks about your project then blog/youtube campaign is the best answer to it and not a signature campaign. There are different types of marketing so it will be best if you will just adjust your marketing plans especially if the one that you are thinking is against the forum rules.

As I am pretty sure that the moderators will not allow this kind of campaign even in the future as it will surely create a lot of spam threads and a spam post from the participants.

I seen those 5 OP posts a week, I think its completely delusional and very hard to do if even possible.

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Which would annoy the heck out of me as I sometimes spend an hour creating a post with lots of content and photos.

So rather then post to a trash able thread 🧵 I would skip it completely or do a lesser post.

I often do not do a truly all out solid post on a topic in mining ⛏ as I know that the thread is iffy or gray.

meaning i could be deleted along with  the whole thread.

It fact I wrote a longer more well thought out post here in meta spent maybe ten to fifteen minutes doing it only to find topic vanished.

This really gets annoying .

It seems like every opinion thinks that this rule should not be done, but in the end, he ignores everyone's opinion and implements it for himself. A terrible spam campaign is about to be created, every day, we will see dozens of nonsense new topics 

Second that. Just noticed now OP has launched signature campaign with terrible rules which will encourage spam definently. I think most of users who have replied here do not support such as terrible rules. But it seems OP doesn't respect community opinion. So all participants posts supposed to be monitor if they create spam topic in order to get payment.

However, rather than force create topic manager should choose who are creating new topics regularly. Suddenly ask someone to create new topic who are not familiar with would cause mega spam.

I don't think the shitposter will be chosen, so no problem here. More importantly, can the selected people achieve their requirements? As discussed above, creating at least 5 threads is a bad perspective that can create junk topics. 

Those sig campaign rules are awesome!

Min. number of created threads, min. number of posts on first page min number of posts on first three pages... lol

Curious how many shitposters will be able to follow the rules anyway - maybe thats the business idea behind? Everybody will "break" the rules and they wont have to pay?  

It seems that OP was serious and really interested to know how the community would feel before launching their campaign:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cfnp-blockzone-signature-campaign-5229933
Participants are requested to start at least 5 threads per week.
Ok am fine with that as long as they are willing to accept only 16 members (16*5=80 threads/week).
What I find disturbing is asking to have 5 posts on first pages and 10 posts up to the 3rd page.

Again, I appreciate that OP asked for community oppinion but after reading the sig campaign requirement it seems he is unwillingly encouraging spam.

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After re-reading all of the replies above, it seems he is willingly encouraging spam.

Asks if he can do it, is universally told it is a bad idea and will only lead to spam, ignores all the advice and does it anyway.