Topic: Can You Kidnap Your Own Kid? - page 2. (Read 1735 times)
what they did was psychological abuse, possibly bordering on sexual abuse but I don't really know about that. It is inexcusable and that kid will no longer feel safe in his own home. I feel really bad for him having been thru that trauma and I am not a 'kid person'. I hope he can be moved somewhere safer, possibly with another relative who can better protect him.
Haha. I think its possible
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Wow, this is a terrible way to teach your child a lesson. I don't think psychologically scaring him for life is the right way to go. As for the whether this is kidnapping or not doesn't really matter. It's still fucked up and abuse.
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the actor's sole intent was to assume lawful control of the victim.
Well going by this definition I would say that was kidnapping because they were not going to let the child get away and they certainly wouldn't let him fight back.
I would say it was unlawful restraint as opposed to kidnapping.
Here is a definition (Texas) of kidnapping:
KIDNAPPING. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly abducts another person.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the abduction was not coupled with intent to use or to threaten to use deadly force;
(2) the actor was a relative of the person abducted; and
(3) the actor's sole intent was to assume lawful control of the victim.
When I was in high school there was a knock on the door, my mom said it was for me so I go to the door. Two big guys from my high school grab me and drag me to a van and throw me in. All while my mom and sisters watched. I get in the van and see another girl from our church. It was a kidnapping church retreat for the day. They told her in advance so she knew what was coming and made sure I was home at that time. That was an abduction by someone who was not a family member. But their sole intent was not to assume lawful control over me. And I didn't really fight back since I knew the guys from church and my mom was just watching like everything was ok.
I also remember seeing an old episode of Gidget where her friends kidnapped her and took her to a kidnapping party.
Here is a definition (Texas) of kidnapping:
KIDNAPPING. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly abducts another person.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the abduction was not coupled with intent to use or to threaten to use deadly force;
(2) the actor was a relative of the person abducted; and
(3) the actor's sole intent was to assume lawful control of the victim.
When I was in high school there was a knock on the door, my mom said it was for me so I go to the door. Two big guys from my high school grab me and drag me to a van and throw me in. All while my mom and sisters watched. I get in the van and see another girl from our church. It was a kidnapping church retreat for the day. They told her in advance so she knew what was coming and made sure I was home at that time. That was an abduction by someone who was not a family member. But their sole intent was not to assume lawful control over me. And I didn't really fight back since I knew the guys from church and my mom was just watching like everything was ok.
I also remember seeing an old episode of Gidget where her friends kidnapped her and took her to a kidnapping party.
Money or Obedience, that's all people who attack their own children care about.
There was actually a movie, where someone did for Insurance movie.
Man of Fire I think.
Man of Fire I think.
There was actually a recent case here in the UK where there was a kidnapping of a child and it turned out that the child's own mother was in on it, I should probably dig that one up.
Got it! Knew I remembered right!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7733586.stm
Hmm..Thats bad.
Seems people don't do it for harming anyone , but only for the money.
There was actually a movie, where someone did for Insurance movie.
Man of Fire I think.
Man of Fire I think.
There was actually a recent case here in the UK where there was a kidnapping of a child and it turned out that the child's own mother was in on it, I should probably dig that one up.
Got it! Knew I remembered right!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7733586.stm
basic summary of what happened:
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The court heard the pair plotted to claim the £50,000 reward money put up by the press for the youngster's return.
There was actually a movie, where someone did for Insurance movie.
Man of Fire I think.
Man of Fire I think.
That's straight up child abuse to me. Leaving the kid tied up in the basement for FOUR hours is way too far.
Seriously, you're going to argue the semantics of how long they were tied up their rather than the actual act itself?
That's straight up child abuse to me. Leaving the kid tied up in the basement for FOUR hours is way too far.
yeah it wasn't 'actual' kidnapping, I don't dispute that, but it was child abuse enough, what kind of shit heads do that to a perfectly nice kid? Especially when you consider how on this very forum people were bitching about what assholes children are.
I really don't see how anyone unless they are total lunatics can justify that kind of treatment.
I really don't see how anyone unless they are total lunatics can justify that kind of treatment.
There are all sorts of lunatics out there.
And some of them go on to become parents as well.
yeah it wasn't 'actual' kidnapping, I don't dispute that, but it was child abuse enough, what kind of shit heads do that to a perfectly nice kid? Especially when you consider how on this very forum people were bitching about what assholes children are.
I really don't see how anyone unless they are total lunatics can justify that kind of treatment.
I really don't see how anyone unless they are total lunatics can justify that kind of treatment.
When you can't find enough bad in the world around you to show your son, you must take matters into your own hands.
This comment made me laugh.I find this story quite appalling. Although I don't consider this case to be an actual kidnapping, there's plenty enough wrong with it. The only thing this kid learned for certain, is that (some of) his family are real disgusting assholes.
Answer to the question - yes.
If custody is given to one parent, who is separated from the other, and the other parent takes away the kid - it can be construed as kidnapping.
However, the incident given above is truly crazy.
If custody is given to one parent, who is separated from the other, and the other parent takes away the kid - it can be construed as kidnapping.
However, the incident given above is truly crazy.
That's how George Bluth Sr. teach important lessons to his kids in Arrested Development. 
Apparently you can, if the state (CPS) take your kids from you first and you try to take them back:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10369459
But the scenario in the OP is pretty... twisted.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10369459
But the scenario in the OP is pretty... twisted.
There must be a better way to teach him the same lesson.
Also, how about police abuse videos? Are they also 'educating' him to stay away from police?
Also, how about police abuse videos? Are they also 'educating' him to stay away from police?
Wow! That was fast! 
When you can't find enough bad in the world around you to show your son, you must take matters into your own hands.
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