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Topic: Can You Make Money Mining Cryptocurrency At Home? Res. Elec. Rates Kill Profits! (Read 690 times)

sr. member
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MY friend made over 70 thousand mining raven coin before it got listed on coinmarketcap.  You can still make a lot of profit but you have to mine the coins the moment they are released and are still unknown.  So you have to do a lot of research to find them.

I agree speculative mining is one of the only real viable options left for making impressive earnings

what price did he sell @?
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MY friend made over 70 thousand mining raven coin before it got listed on coinmarketcap.  You can still make a lot of profit but you have to mine the coins the moment they are released and are still unknown.  So you have to do a lot of research to find them.
sr. member
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If you guys believe in BTC, then mine whatever alt you are mining and sell for BTC and hold that BTC for months...years

If you guys believe in ETH, then mine ETH, and cold storage it and hold it for months...years

If there are some promising alts/token that can change the world, then sell some of your mined BTC or ETH and buy those tokens and hold for months...years

There were many cycles like this in the past. The true believer kepts mining at a loss or break-even just to accululate some coins and in the end it always paid off.
yup , those guys that kept mining dash and ltc and even vertcoin back in 2013 laugh at these posts

I'm not here to hate on mining, just at my electric rate I would be better off simply buying most coins (currently) & I could sell my hardware for some change and dump that straight into any coins I want increasing my holdings w/ zero work after selling the gear

exactly, in fact in most cases investing directly in crypto is more profitable and less trouble. the mining game has changed, you can't compete with those large operators that have access to almost "free" power and buy mining rigs/asics at a much cheaper rate than any of us. also when it comes to large mining farms, a huge farm in the US can't compete with on in Georgia for an instance, based on 2 main factors  
1- power cost.
2- shipping cost.

if you look at large data you will be surprise how much does your location matter in terms of overall cost, when you want to transfer thousands of asics from mainland china to the states you don't expect to compete with a farm in china located next door to bitmain warehouse.

mining as for now is a big gamble, if you are not making in profit or barely making any , and you say to yourself , ok i will just turn my rigs/asics off till prices recover, then you putting yourself in a great risk, the technology is moving fast. your gears will be worthless in couple months.

in plain english, mining is not for everyone as of today, it's a real business that involves great risks and one should think twice and do all the research needed before jumping into the game. people need to understand that 2017 is long gone.

agreed, what I think is really odd is the amount of people holding their gear that they have turned off. That to me and also as you said -- a huge risk -- risky gear for mining risky coins lol


That's a poll I ran on the 26th, not the biggest sample size but definitely an idea.

The odds of that gear going way up in value when coin prices go up vs new gear being out when said coins go up in value . . . . well I know where I am placing my bets

++ if the coins skyrocket in value to warrant this gear being very profitable to mine with again or up in value and X user plans to sell it . . . he probably would have made more money doing nothing if he was just holding crypto

Basically how my thought process boiled down . . sell gear, hodl some coins -- it'll be clear when it makes sense for me to get back into GPU mining
sr. member
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For current conditions, I stopped first for mining. the risk of electricity costs is a major factor in mining. I experienced it, electricity costs are very large while mining products do not increase because the crypto market value is not in a favorable condition.

did you sell your gear or are you keeping it and simply turned it off?
sr. member
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In winter, the profit increases slightly because you reduce heating costs. Rigs provides enough heat to heat nearby space. In addition, to reduce the cost of electricity, you need to reduce the consumption to a minimum, and undervolt the core of Rx 570 to 830-850 mV.

This is not necessarily true. It depends where you live.

If you live in a cold climate and the main source of heat is by natural gas, then mining with electricity will not always offset your heating costs.

In general using electricity to a main source of heat is not very efficient so many cold climates adapted to natural gas. And natural gas is usually capped in the winter so even if its -30C people can still afford to heat their homes.

wrong again, I live in north dakota its cold as hell here and we use gas for heat and water but, ive turned. my gas off for two years now, 100 gpus easily actually overheats the house and fully powers my hybrid heat pump water heater, I run heat pump only mode , this year i used only 350khw on water heateing and i pay zero for house heating.  I also hand dry everything

perfect time to show us some sweet pictures of the setup Cheesy
sr. member
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If you guys believe in BTC, then mine whatever alt you are mining and sell for BTC and hold that BTC for months...years

If you guys believe in ETH, then mine ETH, and cold storage it and hold it for months...years

If there are some promising alts/token that can change the world, then sell some of your mined BTC or ETH and buy those tokens and hold for months...years

There were many cycles like this in the past. The true believer kepts mining at a loss or break-even just to accululate some coins and in the end it always paid off.
yup , those guys that kept mining dash and ltc and even vertcoin back in 2013 laugh at these posts

I'm not here to hate on mining, just at my electric rate I would be better off simply buying most coins (currently) & I could sell my hardware for some change and dump that straight into any coins I want increasing my holdings w/ zero work after selling the gear

VoskCoin your vids are spot on. Always seems to be the most relevant at the time. Can you comment on your buying coins argument with knowing in most cases people are buying them from an exchange and thus may not be as much of an anonymous transaction? When I'm mining to a crypto address using free email for instance with SMOS am I not in a roundabout way collecting coins that can't "easily" be traced to me as a taxpayer? Nobody really directly has been given my ID as if when using an exchange. If I have to pay a little in electricity cost isn't there some value to that? I know the blockchain isn't private and the transactions themselves in most cases can be traced to one another but it just seems a pretty difficult task for someone to go out of their way to find my front door. Nothing's impossible but in all the discussion I read so far no one seems to see value here. Before someone says it I'm not in it for criminal intent and I know that when you trade into anything else, crypto, fiat even goods and services you owe some taxes. Most times when you do that you've exposed yourself anyway.

thanks my friend!

I absolutely see huge value in what you're talking about, I think as far as "mainstream" miners go they do not care too much about this but I'm 100% behind it because its '"crypto" currency not digital currency right? lol

I think that is one of the few selling points left for residential mining is seamless acquisition of coins that never go through an exchange. Also as you said its not because of "criminal intents" it is just nice to have some privacy in the digital age.

Also you may like Cryptopia because you have withdraw about 3500 USD daily w/o uploading any form of ID
full member
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In winter, the profit increases slightly because you reduce heating costs. Rigs provides enough heat to heat nearby space. In addition, to reduce the cost of electricity, you need to reduce the consumption to a minimum, and undervolt the core of Rx 570 to 830-850 mV.

This is not necessarily true. It depends where you live.

If you live in a cold climate and the main source of heat is by natural gas, then mining with electricity will not always offset your heating costs.

In general using electricity to a main source of heat is not very efficient so many cold climates adapted to natural gas. And natural gas is usually capped in the winter so even if its -30C people can still afford to heat their homes.

btw i have a 2800 square foot house rigs are in the basement.  Its currently 40 degrees and i have to open 3 windows lol
and turn on my basement windows 3k cfm intakw fan or it would be a sauna
full member
Activity: 1148
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In winter, the profit increases slightly because you reduce heating costs. Rigs provides enough heat to heat nearby space. In addition, to reduce the cost of electricity, you need to reduce the consumption to a minimum, and undervolt the core of Rx 570 to 830-850 mV.

This is not necessarily true. It depends where you live.

If you live in a cold climate and the main source of heat is by natural gas, then mining with electricity will not always offset your heating costs.

In general using electricity to a main source of heat is not very efficient so many cold climates adapted to natural gas. And natural gas is usually capped in the winter so even if its -30C people can still afford to heat their homes.

wrong again, I live in north dakota its cold as hell here and we use gas for heat and water but, ive turned. my gas off for two years now, 100 gpus easily actually overheats the house and fully powers my hybrid heat pump water heater, I run heat pump only mode , this year i used only 350khw on water heateing and i pay zero for house heating.  I also hand dry everything
legendary
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In winter, the profit increases slightly because you reduce heating costs. Rigs provides enough heat to heat nearby space. In addition, to reduce the cost of electricity, you need to reduce the consumption to a minimum, and undervolt the core of Rx 570 to 830-850 mV.

This is not necessarily true. It depends where you live.

If you live in a cold climate and the main source of heat is by natural gas, then mining with electricity will not always offset your heating costs.

In general using electricity to a main source of heat is not very efficient so many cold climates adapted to natural gas. And natural gas is usually capped in the winter so even if its -30C people can still afford to heat their homes.
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In winter, the profit increases slightly because you reduce heating costs. Rigs provides enough heat to heat nearby space. In addition, to reduce the cost of electricity, you need to reduce the consumption to a minimum, and undervolt the core of Rx 570 to 830-850 mV.
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For current conditions, I stopped first for mining. the risk of electricity costs is a major factor in mining. I experienced it, electricity costs are very large while mining products do not increase because the crypto market value is not in a favorable condition.
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
As GPU mining is dead at moment, if people are smart then they will buy coins directly and wait for the next time coins jump 10 to 50 times, Bitcoin might reach 100k usd next year, eth 20k usd and so on.
sr. member
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Until the end
I looked at your chart. So you are making about $2.16 a day mining ETH but after electric you only net $0.22 or so. This is for 5 GPUs.

If you take into account pool fees, exchange fees, transaction fees, bank fees, stale shares, crazy, you probably end up at a negative.

Its really crazy how much mining has decreased since the beginning of the year.

Better off selling your mining equipment to buy Eth or if you are considering starting to mine, don't buy hardware at all and just buy the coins you want to mine. 
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
I looked at your chart. So you are making about $2.16 a day mining ETH but after electric you only net $0.22 or so. This is for 5 GPUs.

If you take into account pool fees, exchange fees, transaction fees, bank fees, stale shares, crazy, you probably end up at a negative.

Its really crazy how much mining has decreased since the beginning of the year.

Plus all the other things, you end up selling your house to pay the debts. GPU mining is dead at moment.
newbie
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If you guys believe in BTC, then mine whatever alt you are mining and sell for BTC and hold that BTC for months...years

If you guys believe in ETH, then mine ETH, and cold storage it and hold it for months...years

If there are some promising alts/token that can change the world, then sell some of your mined BTC or ETH and buy those tokens and hold for months...years

There were many cycles like this in the past. The true believer kepts mining at a loss or break-even just to accululate some coins and in the end it always paid off.
yup , those guys that kept mining dash and ltc and even vertcoin back in 2013 laugh at these posts

I'm not here to hate on mining, just at my electric rate I would be better off simply buying most coins (currently) & I could sell my hardware for some change and dump that straight into any coins I want increasing my holdings w/ zero work after selling the gear

VoskCoin your vids are spot on. Always seems to be the most relevant at the time. Can you comment on your buying coins argument with knowing in most cases people are buying them from an exchange and thus may not be as much of an anonymous transaction? When I'm mining to a crypto address using free email for instance with SMOS am I not in a roundabout way collecting coins that can't "easily" be traced to me as a taxpayer? Nobody really directly has been given my ID as if when using an exchange. If I have to pay a little in electricity cost isn't there some value to that? I know the blockchain isn't private and the transactions themselves in most cases can be traced to one another but it just seems a pretty difficult task for someone to go out of their way to find my front door. Nothing's impossible but in all the discussion I read so far no one seems to see value here. Before someone says it I'm not in it for criminal intent and I know that when you trade into anything else, crypto, fiat even goods and services you owe some taxes. Most times when you do that you've exposed yourself anyway.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
If you guys believe in BTC, then mine whatever alt you are mining and sell for BTC and hold that BTC for months...years

If you guys believe in ETH, then mine ETH, and cold storage it and hold it for months...years

If there are some promising alts/token that can change the world, then sell some of your mined BTC or ETH and buy those tokens and hold for months...years

There were many cycles like this in the past. The true believer kepts mining at a loss or break-even just to accululate some coins and in the end it always paid off.
yup , those guys that kept mining dash and ltc and even vertcoin back in 2013 laugh at these posts

I'm not here to hate on mining, just at my electric rate I would be better off simply buying most coins (currently) & I could sell my hardware for some change and dump that straight into any coins I want increasing my holdings w/ zero work after selling the gear

exactly, in fact in most cases investing directly in crypto is more profitable and less trouble. the mining game has changed, you can't compete with those large operators that have access to almost "free" power and buy mining rigs/asics at a much cheaper rate than any of us. also when it comes to large mining farms, a huge farm in the US can't compete with on in Georgia for an instance, based on 2 main factors 
1- power cost.
2- shipping cost.

if you look at large data you will be surprise how much does your location matter in terms of overall cost, when you want to transfer thousands of asics from mainland china to the states you don't expect to compete with a farm in china located next door to bitmain warehouse.

mining as for now is a big gamble, if you are not making in profit or barely making any , and you say to yourself , ok i will just turn my rigs/asics off till prices recover, then you putting yourself in a great risk, the technology is moving fast. your gears will be worthless in couple months.

in plain english, mining is not for everyone as of today, it's a real business that involves great risks and one should think twice and do all the research needed before jumping into the game. people need to understand that 2017 is long gone.
sr. member
Activity: 1414
Merit: 487
YouTube.com/VoskCoin
If you guys believe in BTC, then mine whatever alt you are mining and sell for BTC and hold that BTC for months...years

If you guys believe in ETH, then mine ETH, and cold storage it and hold it for months...years

If there are some promising alts/token that can change the world, then sell some of your mined BTC or ETH and buy those tokens and hold for months...years

There were many cycles like this in the past. The true believer kepts mining at a loss or break-even just to accululate some coins and in the end it always paid off.
yup , those guys that kept mining dash and ltc and even vertcoin back in 2013 laugh at these posts

I'm not here to hate on mining, just at my electric rate I would be better off simply buying most coins (currently) & I could sell my hardware for some change and dump that straight into any coins I want increasing my holdings w/ zero work after selling the gear
jr. member
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yah, toooooo many people, who became a little too greedy, enter cryptoworld last/this year and this is result. It will recover, eventuly, so, if you chose promising project, mined and hold coins, I bet in a few years it will payoff.
full member
Activity: 1148
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If you guys believe in BTC, then mine whatever alt you are mining and sell for BTC and hold that BTC for months...years

If you guys believe in ETH, then mine ETH, and cold storage it and hold it for months...years

If there are some promising alts/token that can change the world, then sell some of your mined BTC or ETH and buy those tokens and hold for months...years

There were many cycles like this in the past. The true believer kepts mining at a loss or break-even just to accululate some coins and in the end it always paid off.
yup , those guys that kept mining dash and ltc and even vertcoin back in 2013 laugh at these posts
legendary
Activity: 3808
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If you guys believe in BTC, then mine whatever alt you are mining and sell for BTC and hold that BTC for months...years

If you guys believe in ETH, then mine ETH, and cold storage it and hold it for months...years

If there are some promising alts/token that can change the world, then sell some of your mined BTC or ETH and buy those tokens and hold for months...years

There were many cycles like this in the past. The true believer kepts mining at a loss or break-even just to accululate some coins and in the end it always paid off.
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