can you please help me? I'm looking for a loan.

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 09:42:56 AM

I will pay attention. I'm sorry. I wish I didn't ask for a loan. I regret.

If you regret, then lock your thread. You will find the "lock thread" link in the down left corner of your thread.
It's almost amazing that you didn't receive any negative feedback until now so please, act wisely.

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Quote from: NotATether on September 16, 2020, 09:26:24 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 12:32:53 AM

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Instead of asking for a loan, a better path to prosperity for you is to find a profession you are able to do at home like shipping goods or making artwork, and selling it in the Goods section of the Marketplace. It's small money but eventually you'll make enough money to have as much as if you were to take a loan. And there's no need to pay anyone back, because you earned that money.

Making goods for free and them selling them on Bitcointalk with escrow is easier than taking a loan (and worrying about repaying it).

Besides, the covid-19 situation in turkey is volatile, who knows if $3000 will be enough to financially secure a business...

Thank you for your nice comment and opinion. yes turkey covid19 now in poor condition in the process. I also thought of selling ladies bags and shoes from Instagram as e-commerce to work from home. a friend of mine has been selling in this business for 2 months. very well earning. kazanıyor.özellikl cash in the process covid19 turkey in internet shopping more it was used a lot. that way in my opinion. My only problem is that I don't have cash. I have no capital as well.
There is a saying. water flows find its way. I hope that I will find care for myself somehow.

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Quote from: jonsi on September 16, 2020, 09:18:55 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:46:18 AM

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My only request from you is not to be biased.
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I am not biass at all. I consider all newbies asking for free money to be scammers. You are no special case.

Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2020, 09:04:28 AM

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It's not so much about the rules. There is no rule against making loan requests
...

Although, you are mostly right in your discussions (like 99%) here you are wrong and there is a rule of asking non collateral loans without having masive thrust: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-the-rule-of-no-collateral-no-loan-ignore-at-your-own-risk-577765

Quote from: DiamondCardz on April 20, 2014, 09:40:54 AM

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The rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" means that in order to get a loan you must give collateral that is equal, or preferably higher to the amount you are being loaned.

If you completely ignore this sticky and make a loan request with no collateral, without having massive trust on the forum, the chances of you getting negative trusted feedback and therefore having a Trade with Extreme Caution tag is almost 100%.
...

Off course this can be ignored by the lender (but certainly will not) but not by the borrower - which is the case for the 99% of newbies asking for loans.

I will pay attention. I'm sorry. I wish I didn't ask for a loan. I regret.

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2020, 09:04:28 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:46:18 AM

Sir, I don't know you, in the same way you don't know me either. yes I am a new member. i'm a beginner I'm struggling to find out. My only request from you is not to be biased. I do not want to argue with you. Our correspondence is like a discussion in this way. no need to break a heart. Take care of yourselves. I will consider your suggestion and read the site rules. Thank you

It's not so much about the rules. There is no rule against making loan requests but you need to understand that this is a discussion site, not a lending site, but you - despite all your rhetoric about learning etc - came here to just ask for money. That's not how it works. People spend years here and then sometimes if they need a few bucks they might be considered trustworthy enough to not run away with it. There is no chance a newbie could get $5000 here. None. Lock the thread. Stop begging for loans in other threads.

I think I misrepresented myself. Sorry. I apologize to all of you on my behalf for using the wrong expression.

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 12:32:53 AM

~

Instead of asking for a loan, a better path to prosperity for you is to find a profession you are able to do at home like shipping goods or making artwork, and selling it in the Goods section of the Marketplace. It's small money but eventually you'll make enough money to have as much as if you were to take a loan. And there's no need to pay anyone back, because you earned that money.

Making goods for free and them selling them on Bitcointalk with escrow is easier than taking a loan (and worrying about repaying it).

Besides, the covid-19 situation in turkey is volatile, who knows if $3000 will be enough to financially secure a business...

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:46:18 AM

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My only request from you is not to be biased.
...

I am not biass at all. I consider all newbies asking for free money to be scammers. You are no special case.

Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2020, 09:04:28 AM

...
It's not so much about the rules. There is no rule against making loan requests
...

Although, you are mostly right in your discussions (like 99%) here you are wrong and there is a rule of asking non collateral loans without having masive thrust: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-the-rule-of-no-collateral-no-loan-ignore-at-your-own-risk-577765

Quote from: DiamondCardz on April 20, 2014, 09:40:54 AM

...
The rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" means that in order to get a loan you must give collateral that is equal, or preferably higher to the amount you are being loaned.

If you completely ignore this sticky and make a loan request with no collateral, without having massive trust on the forum, the chances of you getting negative trusted feedback and therefore having a Trade with Extreme Caution tag is almost 100%.
...

Off course this can be ignored by the lender (but certainly will not) but not by the borrower - which is the case for the 99% of newbies asking for loans.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 16, 2020, 09:07:36 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 12:32:53 AM

I want to get a loan

Since you didn't say a word about collateral, you seem to be asking for "a donation".
Sorry, nobody sane would give you such amounts of money just because you ask nicely.
Just think on this...

please don't burden me like that. I do not ask for donations from anyone. I am aware this is not a place of donation

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 12:32:53 AM

I want to get a loan

Since you didn't say a word about collateral, you seem to be asking for "a donation".
Sorry, nobody sane would give you such amounts of money just because you ask nicely.
Just think on this...

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Quote from: condoras on September 16, 2020, 08:55:46 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:26:57 AM

I'm sorry, but you're texting with a lady and you see me as a cheater, a beggar and insult me. would you please be respectful. I wrote, I wrote for information. I received my reply and thanked it.
Sorry, I am calm your time. Since it is an open site for everyone, I write and read one by one for information exchange. I'm trying to learn. and every new member, not every person who cannot provide collateral, is not a scam. I do not like to disrespect people's emotions and efforts. Please do not be prejudiced to everyone.

Firstly I don't know either care if you are a lady, a guy or an alien. I care though for people who think that BTC is candies and come here to ask for them in the form of a "loan" without securing the lender. Is not disrespectful to us that you did this and you think that you can get it like we are fools?
If you want information, then read the stickies. If you are not covered with them (?) and need more then the answers that you already receive should cover you in a matter of minutes. But no! You continue to ask and spam the section. What is that you don't understand? No Collateral = No Loan. Very easy and simple.

As you said it's free for all to post (almost) anything they want. So as you freely ask for unsecured money and you find it logical, so can I classify you as a scammer/ defaulter.

I understand you, very well. Please don't get me wrong, I have no intention of fooling anyone. But since I understand that many fraudsters, fraudsters and liars are being dealt with, anyone who wants to get credit like me can be misinterpreted. not everyone i just mean is cheaters. 7 days ago I was defrauded by a guy on Instagram for $ 200. and I'm so sorry I believed my stupidity. I do not let anyone experience what I have experienced. I believe in karma very much.
While the subject of *** was addressed, some of them stated that they gave unsecured loans, but they wrote the terms of membership etc. for him, I am trying to read more carefully.
And as a site, all the old members, let me tell you why you are attacking me like this

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:46:18 AM

Sir, I don't know you, in the same way you don't know me either. yes I am a new member. i'm a beginner I'm struggling to find out. My only request from you is not to be biased. I do not want to argue with you. Our correspondence is like a discussion in this way. no need to break a heart. Take care of yourselves. I will consider your suggestion and read the site rules. Thank you

It's not so much about the rules. There is no rule against making loan requests but you need to understand that this is a discussion site, not a lending site, but you - despite all your rhetoric about learning etc - came here to just ask for money. That's not how it works. People spend years here and then sometimes if they need a few bucks they might be considered trustworthy enough to not run away with it. There is no chance a newbie could get $5000 here. None. Lock the thread. Stop begging for loans in other threads.

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:26:57 AM

I'm sorry, but you're texting with a lady and you see me as a cheater, a beggar and insult me. would you please be respectful. I wrote, I wrote for information. I received my reply and thanked it.
Sorry, I am calm your time. Since it is an open site for everyone, I write and read one by one for information exchange. I'm trying to learn. and every new member, not every person who cannot provide collateral, is not a scam. I do not like to disrespect people's emotions and efforts. Please do not be prejudiced to everyone.

Firstly I don't know either care if you are a lady, a guy or an alien. I care though for people who think that BTC is candies and come here to ask for them in the form of a "loan" without securing the lender. Is not disrespectful to us that you did this and you think that you can get it like we are fools?
If you want information, then read the stickies. If you are not covered with them (?) and need more then the answers that you already receive should cover you in a matter of minutes. But no! You continue to ask and spam the section. What is that you don't understand? No Collateral = No Loan. Very easy and simple.

As you said it's free for all to post (almost) anything they want. So as you freely ask for unsecured money and you find it logical, so can I classify you as a scammer/ defaulter.

duygutgl

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Quote from: jonsi on September 16, 2020, 08:41:27 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:26:57 AM

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I'm sorry, but you're texting with a lady and you see me as a cheater, a beggar and insult me.
...

So you think you deserve special treatment because you're "a lady"?
More than this, you have insulted all the members of the forum by not respecting the rulles, so please don't complain.
You are a newbie that didn't bother to spent 5 minutes to read the forum rulles and you are asking thousands of dollars for free. Respect others first before asking for respect.

Sir, I don't know you, in the same way you don't know me either. yes I am a new member. i'm a beginner I'm struggling to find out. My only request from you is not to be biased. I do not want to argue with you. Our correspondence is like a discussion in this way. no need to break a heart. Take care of yourselves. I will consider your suggestion and read the site rules. Thank you

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 08:26:57 AM

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I'm sorry, but you're texting with a lady and you see me as a cheater, a beggar and insult me.
...

So you think you deserve special treatment because you're "a lady"?
More than this, you have insulted all the members of the forum by not respecting the rulles, so please don't complain.
You are a newbie that didn't bother to spent 5 minutes to read the forum rulles and you are asking thousands of dollars for free. Respect others first before asking for respect.

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Quote from: condoras on September 16, 2020, 08:20:22 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 01:58:33 AM

I don't think I'm wasting my time. I am communicating. I am reading what is written. You share your experiences and thoughts because you are experienced. this is something very important to me. so thank you.

Of course, you are not wasting your time (since you want free money) but for sure you waste ours. All the previous members were more than clear that you need collateral in order to get a loan, as you will need it in real life. Instead though of listen to them you continue to post and try to persuade us with nothing more than empty words and fake promises. Not to mention that you spam almost every lender's thread here like you didn't hear what others told you already.
So here is another very useful advice. Lock your thread and look elsewhere to find money without any guarantee.

P.S: Sadly for you, I gave already my "stockpile" of BTC (lol) for scammers/ beggars/ liars, etc Grin

And if you find a place that gives money without any guarantee, let us know so we can all go there and ask like you.

I'm sorry, but you're texting with a lady and you see me as a cheater, a beggar and insult me. would you please be respectful. I wrote, I wrote for information. I received my reply and thanked it.
Sorry, I am calm your time. Since it is an open site for everyone, I write and read one by one for information exchange. I'm trying to learn. and every new member, not every person who cannot provide collateral, is not a scam. I do not like to disrespect people's emotions and efforts. Please do not be prejudiced to everyone.

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 01:58:33 AM

I don't think I'm wasting my time. I am communicating. I am reading what is written. You share your experiences and thoughts because you are experienced. this is something very important to me. so thank you.

Of course, you are not wasting your time (since you want free money) but for sure you waste ours. All the previous members were more than clear that you need collateral in order to get a loan, as you will need it in real life. Instead though of listen to them you continue to post and try to persuade us with nothing more than empty words and fake promises. Not to mention that you spam almost every lender's thread here like you didn't hear what others told you already.
So here is another very useful advice. Lock your thread and look elsewhere to find money without any guarantee.

P.S: Sadly for you, I gave already my "stockpile" of BTC (lol) for scammers/ beggars/ liars, etc Grin

And if you find a place that gives money without any guarantee, let us know so we can all go there and ask like you.

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2020, 01:06:15 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 12:52:47 AM

Sorry I'm new on the site. When I said okay without sharing my thoughts, it became awkward like this. I just shared it as the letter b. Did the problem and shared my opinion. Thank you for your comment. maybe there is someone who can help. We are all human beings and we can understand good / bad right / wrong.

It doesn't really matter if you post 5 paragraphs or just "b" - no one here can verify your trustworthiness to the extent necessary to lend you $5600. You're wasting your time.

******you are right . its reliability cannot be verified. I am a new member, because I am not active on the site. and for failing to provide coverage. I don't think I'm wasting my time. I am communicating. I am reading what is written. You share your experiences and thoughts because you are experienced. this is something very important to me. so thank you.

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Quote from: mocacinno on September 16, 2020, 01:31:27 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 01:16:11 AM

--snip--
I have 0.00043722 this much btc in my btc wallet left over from it. I guess this is not accepted as a guarantee.
--snip--

Well, that's simply not how collateral works. Collateral is meant to cover the complete loan + intrest in case you default.
You cannot get a 0.52 BTC loan with a 0.00044 BTC collateral.

Try to imagine an IRL situation.... You're walking around on the street in a city where you know litterally nobody. You grab a stranger's arm and ask him for $5600 with only a promise you'll pay him back. When the stranger refuses, you tell him you'll give him $5 as a security deposit if he gives you $5600. If you run away (which you probably will), the lender can keep the $5 and he's only scammed for $5595?

**Yes, you are right. I can not buy I know this. maybe someone who can give unsecured. maybe he can advise me. You are very right, I do not look for bad thoughts in many things because I think and approach in a naive, very well-intentioned way. This is always a loss for me. Thank you for your thought.

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 01:16:11 AM

--snip--
I have 0.00043722 this much btc in my btc wallet left over from it. I guess this is not accepted as a guarantee.
--snip--

Well, that's simply not how collateral works. Collateral is meant to cover the complete loan + intrest in case you default.
You cannot get a 0.52 BTC loan with a 0.00044 BTC collateral.

Try to imagine an IRL situation.... You're walking around on the street in a city where you know litterally nobody. You grab a stranger's arm and ask him for $5600 with only a promise you'll pay him back. When the stranger refuses, you tell him you'll give him $5 as a security deposit if he gives you $5600. If you run away (which you probably will), the lender can keep the $5 and he's only scammed for $5595?

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2020, 01:06:15 AM

Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 12:52:47 AM

Sorry I'm new on the site. When I said okay without sharing my thoughts, it became awkward like this. I just shared it as the letter b. Did the problem and shared my opinion. Thank you for your comment. maybe there is someone who can help. We are all human beings and we can understand good / bad right / wrong.

****yes you say very true. Of course, the person who will give money should not worry and trust. Maybe it is not correct to tell but I would like to. I met someone on Instagram recently. he told me he could give me $ 2800 worth of btc loans for $ 200 btc. of course my idiot ... anyway I believed it. I borrowed money from my friends, completed $ 200 and sent it to him. He then blocked me from WhatsApp, Telegram and Instagram. has not responded to your e-mails for 7 days. I have 0.00043722 this much btc in my btc wallet left over from it. I guess this is not accepted as a guarantee.

It doesn't really matter if you post 5 paragraphs or just "b" - no one here can verify your trustworthiness to the extent necessary to lend you $5600. You're wasting your time.

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Quote from: duygutgl on September 16, 2020, 12:52:47 AM

Sorry I'm new on the site. When I said okay without sharing my thoughts, it became awkward like this. I just shared it as the letter b. Did the problem and shared my opinion. Thank you for your comment. maybe there is someone who can help. We are all human beings and we can understand good / bad right / wrong.

It doesn't really matter if you post 5 paragraphs or just "b" - no one here can verify your trustworthiness to the extent necessary to lend you $5600. You're wasting your time.

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