Topic: Can you see the blockchain being used to register votes in general elections? - page 4. (Read 9414 times)

Code a better Namecoin wallet. It will do a lot more good for the world, AND there's somebody offering some coin bounty of like 20 BTC and some NMC or something like that.

I am a coder.

If anyone wants to work with me to start this project and create it together, let me know.

= MWD64 should shut up and accept that he needs to be forced to do things and will be thrown into a cage for violating things that a bunch of corrupt idiots scribble on paper because a bunch of other people gave them power.

I'm not being an ass. I'm rejecting the idea of leaders. Democracy is 51% tyrannizing 49%. Democracy is two wolves and a cat voting on what to have for lunch.

If I'd described the idea of the blockchain to you six years ago, and I'd said "We don't need money! We don't need PayPal or credit cards!" you'd probably have called me an ass.

I'm saying that you (and anyone else wanting to "fix democracy" with the blockchain) are "thinking inside the box" with a totally outside-the-box technology. Voting is so last century. Why try to burden new things with old models.

OK, so Bush wasn't "Democratically elected" the second time around. And he was a tyrant. Was Obama Democratically elected? Probably. And that guy kills kids by droning wedding parties. He even killed an American teenager for no good reason at all:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/how-team-obama-justifies-the-killing-of-a-16-year-old-american/264028/

Obama also wants to have total control over the Internet. Bush would have, if he'd really understood what the Internet was.

 Do you think that streamlining the process for putting these psychos in power will change any of this?

The US also has a long history of unseating democratically elected leaders around the world to install their own puppet "leaders." That will NOT stop as long as people are backing the system by trying to "streamline the process." You're only improving the flow of murder, theft, fraud and aggression. The US isn't the only nation to do this. Not by a long shot.

Election fraud? Elected officials, ALL of them, EXIST to do theft and fraud. That's their job description. That is what government is.

Lots of politicians from both the left and the right currently want to outlaw Bitcoin. Do you think that streamlining the process for putting them in power will change that?

Anyway, I "voted" with my voice on this, by making it the topic of my radio show on 20 stations with over 100,000 listeners today:

Using Decentralized Technology To Choose Centralized Leadership Is So SQUARE! — Freedom Feens live radio archive
Show archive: http://freedomfeens.com/ViXQ

Stations we're on:
http://www.freedomfeens.com/radio/

MWD

If someone makes some kind of votecoin and gets those guys to promote it then you've got yourself a weinner.

In case anyone wants to research this issue

http://blackboxvoting.org/

Look, I'm sorry for swearing but vote machines and system and their hack-ability really irk my girkin.

So Don't be an ass buddy. I'm not trying to fix every problem and build a Utopian society. I'm advocating for an open source, transparent voting system.

LET me put it in an easier to understand format.

The current voting system is fucking rigged!!!
A transparent opens source system such as a blockchain technology might, just might, be a little bit more fair and accurate.

I think it's sad (and dangerous) that you want to use a completely decentralized and voluntary system to decide how you install centralized aggression-based "leadership."

It pains me that "advanced" humans think they need leaders.

MWD

Fucking VOTECOIN, Helping humans count correctly.

an open source , transparent voting system.

a coin for counting votes.
a technology for elections.

A kick in the butt to power hungry, morally dead, barely human politicians.

This system would have sent W Bush back to his shithole ranch to clear away brush.

It pains me that we as "advanced" humans can't even count correctly when voting. The vote systems on this planet fucking suck. And are completely manipulated.

I believe that a blockchain technology voting system could easily work to remove the corruption, and make it so that we humans can actually count.

Currently
For a US general election you register to vote, show up and they give you a ballet. You fill it out and return it to them. They then "count" it behind closed doors leaving 1/2 million ways to tweak the count.

The machines for the current system exists as a patchwork of proprietary hardware owned and run by companies often from other countries. This system has produced thousands of anomalies every single election.
 (I have 0 faith in the voting system in the US, no confidence, we NEED a change)

A way for it to work.

For a US general election you register to vote, show up, and they give you a random vote token (alt coin of some kind). You then spend/send the token to the candidates wallet you support. You leave. A blockchain explorer then can allow transparent checking in on the votes cast as well as realtime ballot totals. (gasp, non of this wait and wait shit for some tweaked vote).

The blockchain that runs the election is open source, so it can be vetted. Nodes running the blockchain have to be registered, so there shouldn't be a 51% attack as this system is closed to the public.

Tokens(coins) are premined based on the number of registerd voters.

Indeed you are right.
And this is a problem with democracy -democracy means that citizens should have a gov that they desire and they want (most of them).

And it turnover a long time ago into - gov have the power and they are master of puppets - where puppets are people.
It should be other way round.

Remember my friend there is a big misconception in the community about decentralized exchanges or mechanisms.  The vehicle can ALWAYS be a decentralized mechanism but the mode of connectivity must ALWAYS be centralized.  The idea is astounding and it will undoubtedly be the future but it must be administered by a central authority.  Nothing will be 100% tamper proof however this model will reduce fraud ALOT!  Each person's ID just as voting works now would be required to vote.  Again this is not where most of the fraud occurs.

The distributed asset ledger of votes would be regarded by all and when real time forensics in instituted fraud would be greatly reduced.  The future is definitely here.

Bitcoin controlled by me and you 

That's accurate, from the point of view of the tyrant.

But from the viewpoint of the voter, what are your real choices now? A Democrat baby killer who wants to control everything including the Internet, or a Republican baby killer who wants to control everything including the Internet.

How do you stop bitcoins being spent multiple times?

hehe Indeed

Joseph Stalin told that "No matter who is voting. Matter who is counting the votes"

Actually you can more or less.
Replace the citizen's ID with a member ID.
For this to work then it would have to be regulated.
Do you trust regulations?

I can probably write such an app if I had something to gain from it, but I don't.
I don't trust poly-tics!

It's a noble thought and the tech itself would be pretty much secure HOWEVER just google UK postal vote fraud, namely the head of household of certain cultures voting for a whole family and also registering false tenants for voting which is very common in certain "culturally enriched" parts of Britain.

This is a valid point. Is there a way to verify people only vote once without revealing their identity?

The blockchain is a good idea when it comes to voting but heres a question:

Would you like the world to know what you are voting on?
Because for this to happen then obviously instead of a BTC address you would need to have real citizens IDs.

So would it work?