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July 24, 2014, 03:21:21 AM
#51
As moderators "and I suppose the admin as well" mentioned before, it's allowed and even in public! if you check the digital goods section you would most likely find 2-5 threads about account selling in the 1st page.
People might give negative trust though if they find the sold/selling account though Tongue
legendary
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July 23, 2014, 08:08:30 AM
#50
I've gotten several complaints lately, from people who bought accounts that turned out to be banned or hacked, and also dirty accounts that were on the verge of being permabanned due to previous infractions. You're on your own in cases like that, we will not help you. Be careful.
legendary
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July 22, 2014, 08:44:11 AM
#49
Can you give hints/tips on how to price an account? Like if how much an account with senior level should cost. Thanks.

You can find a few threads in the digital goods section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0 for buying and selling bitcointalk accounts, and you can find check the prices there.

While account trading is allowed, it is not encouraged.
full member
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July 21, 2014, 11:37:11 AM
#48
People already do. The value depends on what others are willing to pay but you should check other posts out about selling accounts as it is normally used for scamming and you may receive bad rep for selling

Selling forum accounts is new to me as I only thought that blogs and forums are being sold, not individual  accounts. Can you give hints/tips on how to price an account? Like if how much an account with senior level should cost. Thanks.
hero member
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July 21, 2014, 11:23:20 AM
#47
Also, much more bought accounts nowadays are used for sig campaigns due to the member group restrictions on signatures and overall increased payment to sig campaign participants.

This is my feeling. There is pretty strong incentive for people to buy accounts for signature campaigns. They can make the money back very quickly, looking at the going rates for accounts.
Most people can ROI with signature campaigns in just a few weeks.

Do the people paying for signatures actually get that much benefit from the programs? Do people actually click on the obnoxious sig ads?

I guess so.
If the businesses don't get much traffic and sales from the sig campaigns, they would have end it or at least lower the pay rate. Smiley
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July 21, 2014, 11:06:15 AM
#46
Also, much more bought accounts nowadays are used for sig campaigns due to the member group restrictions on signatures and overall increased payment to sig campaign participants.

This is my feeling. There is pretty strong incentive for people to buy accounts for signature campaigns. They can make the money back very quickly, looking at the going rates for accounts.
Most people can ROI with signature campaigns in just a few weeks.

Do the people paying for signatures actually get that much benefit from the programs? Do people actually click on the obnoxious sig ads?

Well since I have been using stunnas service I always gamble my earned bitcoin (and sometimes dig into my own personal wallet) so yes I guess a lot of people do this.
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July 21, 2014, 10:59:17 AM
#45
Also, much more bought accounts nowadays are used for sig campaigns due to the member group restrictions on signatures and overall increased payment to sig campaign participants.

This is my feeling. There is pretty strong incentive for people to buy accounts for signature campaigns. They can make the money back very quickly, looking at the going rates for accounts.
Most people can ROI with signature campaigns in just a few weeks.

Do the people paying for signatures actually get that much benefit from the programs? Do people actually click on the obnoxious sig ads?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
no longer selling accounts
July 20, 2014, 11:12:07 AM
#44
Also, much more bought accounts nowadays are used for sig campaigns due to the member group restrictions on signatures and overall increased payment to sig campaign participants.

This is my feeling. There is pretty strong incentive for people to buy accounts for signature campaigns. They can make the money back very quickly, looking at the going rates for accounts.
Most people can ROI with signature campaigns in just a few weeks.
hero member
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Merit: 500
July 19, 2014, 02:31:22 AM
#43
Also, much more bought accounts nowadays are used for sig campaigns due to the member group restrictions on signatures and overall increased payment to sig campaign participants.

This is my feeling. There is pretty strong incentive for people to buy accounts for signature campaigns. They can make the money back very quickly, looking at the going rates for accounts.
hero member
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July 18, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
#42
tbh an older account with high activity (and maybe even a good trustrating) is one of the best tools for a big scam.

i saw alot of scams happen here on this forums and there will probaly alot to come in the future.


would it even technically be possible to track a account that has been sold? because i doubt that would be possible if the holder of the bought account(s) uses some vpn for the right ip adress?

Maybe there could be a way to add a comment in the trust rating so people know the account has been sold?  That way the former owner of an account is not held responsible for actions they didn't actually do.

If the person who sold the account has another account, they can use the second account to add a trust rating to the first account saying the account was sold.

That will make the sold account worthless or at least not as worthy as it was.
And so the account buyer will likely just request the account seller to keep the trade secret...
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July 18, 2014, 09:08:23 AM
#41
tbh an older account with high activity (and maybe even a good trustrating) is one of the best tools for a big scam.

i saw alot of scams happen here on this forums and there will probaly alot to come in the future.


would it even technically be possible to track a account that has been sold? because i doubt that would be possible if the holder of the bought account(s) uses some vpn for the right ip adress?

Maybe there could be a way to add a comment in the trust rating so people know the account has been sold?  That way the former owner of an account is not held responsible for actions they didn't actually do.

If the person who sold the account has another account, they can use the second account to add a trust rating to the first account saying the account was sold.
hero member
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July 17, 2014, 05:33:07 PM
#40
tbh an older account with high activity (and maybe even a good trustrating) is one of the best tools for a big scam.

i saw alot of scams happen here on this forums and there will probaly alot to come in the future.


would it even technically be possible to track a account that has been sold? because i doubt that would be possible if the holder of the bought account(s) uses some vpn for the right ip adress?

Maybe there could be a way to add a comment in the trust rating so people know the account has been sold?  That way the former owner of an account is not held responsible for actions they didn't actually do.
legendary
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July 17, 2014, 05:12:46 PM
#39
tbh an older account with high activity (and maybe even a good trustrating) is one of the best tools for a big scam.

i saw alot of scams happen here on this forums and there will probaly alot to come in the future.


would it even technically be possible to track a account that has been sold? because i doubt that would be possible if the holder of the bought account(s) uses some vpn for the right ip adress?
global moderator
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July 17, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
#38
I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
Some scams are quite elaborate and well planned since they usually involve much more money than usual. A fake rep and an older account is needed for those. As Bitcoin is getting a bigger crowd, bigger deals happen thus more money is moved. Some scammers want to cash in on these deals.
But some scams are really obvious (eg. ponzis, impersonators, sending you a file via Skype, asking you to "test a program", etc) and yet people still fall for it...

I guess hilariousandco's point is, if you can do it the easy way, why would you waste 0.4 btc and do it the hard way.
To do major scams that would set you for life maybe. Grin
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July 17, 2014, 12:25:04 PM
#37
Re why would people buy accounts? The forum has stringent rules on limits for signatures based on activity. So people who want to have a large signatures, like those used in advertising, will pay people for their higher activity accounts.
hero member
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July 17, 2014, 12:17:23 PM
#36
I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
Some scams are quite elaborate and well planned since they usually involve much more money than usual. A fake rep and an older account is needed for those. As Bitcoin is getting a bigger crowd, bigger deals happen thus more money is moved. Some scammers want to cash in on these deals.
But some scams are really obvious (eg. ponzis, impersonators, sending you a file via Skype, asking you to "test a program", etc) and yet people still fall for it...

I guess hilariousandco's point is, if you can do it the easy way, why would you waste 0.4 btc and do it the hard way.
hero member
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July 17, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
#35
Seems like the majority of the account selling is for signature campaigns as they normally state in their post that its already enrolled etc.
sr. member
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July 17, 2014, 12:07:16 PM
#34
I think the scam percentage is pretty high to be honest but certainly not 60% but I would say double digit is a real possibility. I also agree with hilariousandco the majority of scammers are going to scam ppl with a newbie acct and the scam will usually involve them selling a full member or senior member acct. Unless they have a means to scam more then a few ppl they are not going to risk an account with value.
global moderator
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July 17, 2014, 12:03:38 PM
#33
I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
Some scams are quite elaborate and well planned since they usually involve much more money than usual. A fake rep and an older account is needed for those. As Bitcoin is getting a bigger crowd, bigger deals happen thus more money is moved. Some scammers want to cash in on these deals.
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July 17, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
#32
I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
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