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Topic: CanadianGuy - self admitted scammer (Read 2945 times)

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June 15, 2013, 11:24:35 PM
#56
LOL no he did not pay me

now he is blatantly lying and posting false feedback out of spite and revenge
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June 15, 2013, 09:53:22 PM
#55
Just saw this on your trust page.  Did he pay you already?  Or is it just more lies?

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I sent him 1BTC after acknowledgement of missed payment and he acted like he never got it. Since then him and his friends have added scammer tags to my profile. He is obviously trying to squeeze another 1 BTC out of me.
sr. member
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June 15, 2013, 09:51:23 PM
#54

Well, it's alright to ask that it happen publicly, but threatening is not the right way to do it.


its alright to ask for the feedback to be removed AFTER you've made good on what you owe

its not alright to threaten to never pay UNLESS AND UNTIL the feedback is removed. that is backwards. that shows no intent to honor your agreement.

This!  I think after you pay, if you apologize to the community and it is sincere, you would be hard pressed to find someone here who wouldn't remove their feedback for you.  This is because we all make mistakes and most people will understand that.  Having it happen publicly is also fine.  What's not ok is extorting people with the feedback system as it shows that you have learned nothing.
sr. member
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June 15, 2013, 08:28:33 PM
#53

Well, it's alright to ask that it happen publicly, but threatening is not the right way to do it.


its alright to ask for the feedback to be removed AFTER you've made good on what you owe

its not alright to threaten to never pay UNLESS AND UNTIL the feedback is removed. that is backwards. that shows no intent to honor your agreement.
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June 15, 2013, 10:16:15 AM
#52
for reference

CanadianGuy has started another thread, demanding that all negative feedback be removed before he will uphold his end of the deal

apparently he thinks he can bribe his way out of being labelled a scammer, by holding hostage the coin he owed in the first place

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/agreement-to-pay-johnblaze-1btc-234514

you can't even make this stuff up

Well, it's alright to ask that it happen publicly, but threatening is not the right way to do it.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
June 15, 2013, 08:57:41 AM
#51
for reference

CanadianGuy has started another thread, demanding that all negative feedback be removed before he will uphold his end of the deal

apparently he thinks he can bribe his way out of being labelled a scammer, by holding hostage the coin he owed in the first place

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/agreement-to-pay-johnblaze-1btc-234514

you can't even make this stuff up
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June 14, 2013, 04:03:22 PM
#50
He's not going to get trades anymore with this reputation, though.

Although I do agree, at the very least a scammer or Untrustworthy tag should be applied. You can't just make bets and refuse to pay out because someone hurt your perfect little ego.

You guys broke him. That's not pretty. Whew.
legendary
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June 14, 2013, 02:17:24 PM
#49
He's not going to get trades anymore with this reputation, though.

Although I do agree, at the very least a scammer or Untrustworthy tag should be applied. You can't just make bets and refuse to pay out because someone hurt your perfect little ego.
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In da Jungle!
June 14, 2013, 01:39:00 PM
#48
johnblaze (probably unbeknownst to him) apparently decided to do business with a 13 year old and not hammer out the details. 
johnblaze appears to have said enough things to warrant at least the intelligence of someone of (akin to "legal age" or "age of consent) responsible age.  I don't know how true / relevant any of that is, though.

I don't think it is relevant!
sr. member
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June 14, 2013, 02:01:39 AM
#47
I never said "please don't put a scammer tag on me".  I don't care about the tag, I just wanted to payout everyone except him as a way of beating some manners into him.  I bet he won't jump to conclusions anymore, and people in RL will respect him that much more.  I'm doing him a favor  Grin

lol

now that is a good one

you are the one who needs to learn manners. ripping people off isn't very respectful either.

i did not jump to conclusions. the first time you posted that you would not pay, you could be forgiven for a mistake. then FOUR people corrected you. then you posted A SECOND TIME saying you would not pay and were rude to all 4 of us, showing us no manners at all. that is not me jumping to conclusions. that is you either 1. scamming like i accused you of, or 2. making multiple mistakes and not having the balls to own up to them.

legendary
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June 13, 2013, 10:54:26 PM
#46
Nah, he deserves an Untrustworthy tag.
Isn't it the same thing?  He scammed someone out of 1 BTC, and he's untrustworthy because of it.

Sorry, I was taking the liberty of poking fun at my own various admin bestowed custom tags that don't mean anything.
LOL, totally missed your tag.
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June 13, 2013, 06:27:44 PM
#45
Nah, he deserves an Untrustworthy tag.
Isn't it the same thing?  He scammed someone out of 1 BTC, and he's untrustworthy because of it.

Sorry, I was taking the liberty of poking fun at my own various admin bestowed custom tags that don't mean anything.
sr. member
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June 13, 2013, 06:03:50 PM
#44
Honestly the trust system is a deeply flawed idea in the first place. Tags mean nothing given the proclivities of the people handing out the tags... For legitimate business transactions... either use escrow or accept payment in bitcoins upfront. Simple and no risk. Personally I'm about through with accepting escrow. For the simple reason that it makes what could be a simple 1 day process as a seller turn into at least a week (or more) of waiting around for everyone to do their part.



legendary
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June 13, 2013, 05:50:52 PM
#43
Nah, he deserves an Untrustworthy tag.
Isn't it the same thing?  He scammed someone out of 1 BTC, and he's untrustworthy because of it.
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June 13, 2013, 05:37:03 PM
#42
Nah, he deserves an Untrustworthy tag.
legendary
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June 13, 2013, 05:34:27 PM
#41
the guy who was forced refunded lost 1000's of dollars from the bitcoin price appreciation, so yes he lost more

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BFL is a company

Canadianguy is not a casino, betting exchange, or a legal contractor of bets

bitwhizz logic:

1. if the amount of money you lose is not a lot, then its ok to be scammed

2. if the person who scammed you is not a legitimate business, then it is ok to be scammed

It's not a matter of me being a legitimate business.  The point is I don't do business AT ALL.  I am not a business -- PERIOD.
So that gives you a right to rip people off?

The whole point of a trust rating is so that people can trust you.  The whole point of a scammer tag is to show people they can't trust you.  You deserve the scammer tag because no one can trust you after you refuse to pay out on a bet you obviously lost.
hero member
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June 13, 2013, 12:28:45 PM
#40
the guy who was forced refunded lost 1000's of dollars from the bitcoin price appreciation, so yes he lost more

+

BFL is a company

Canadianguy is not a casino, betting exchange, or a legal contractor of bets

bitwhizz logic:

1. if the amount of money you lose is not a lot, then its ok to be scammed

2. if the person who scammed you is not a legitimate business, then it is ok to be scammed

3. if you use a sockpuppet, no one will know you're CanadianGuy
sr. member
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Merit: 250
June 13, 2013, 12:20:32 PM
#39
the guy who was forced refunded lost 1000's of dollars from the bitcoin price appreciation, so yes he lost more

+

BFL is a company

Canadianguy is not a casino, betting exchange, or a legal contractor of bets

bitwhizz logic:

1. if the amount of money you lose is not a lot, then its ok to be scammed

2. if the person who scammed you is not a legitimate business, then it is ok to be scammed
legendary
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Merit: 1005
June 13, 2013, 10:12:50 AM
#38
the guy who was forced refunded lost 1000's of dollars from the bitcoin price appreciation, so yes he lost more

+

BFL is a company

Canadianguy is not a casino, betting exchange, or a legal contractor of bets
It was his choice to use BTC to pay for his order, fully knowing that the miners were listed for sale with prices in USD, and that the price refunded would have been the equivalent USD amount.  He could have paid USD for his order, and not lost any price appreciation.  If he wasn't sure about the terms of BFL's refund policy, he should have contacted them to make sure about it prior to making an order.
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June 13, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
#37
I agree with a scammer tag for him.  He shouldn't be promising to pay out on bets, only to renig on that promise when someone calls him a bad name.  You can dislike someone all you want, but you still have to hold up your end of any deals you make.

I agree.

Like when you sell ~16 BTC to someone with perfect reputation, and they later decide they don't approve of how you may have gained those bitcoins. Then they cancel the wire and cost you $1600.

Scammers. D:::::::

You were trying to sell coins that were acquired through fraud and failed to inform the buyer of this.  No comparison.
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