Canelo vs Kovalev WBO Light Heavyweight Championship

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 05, 2019, 04:49:39 AM

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He has said many times prior that he don't want to face GGG for a trilogy. It was Oscar who are pushing for it (obviously for money.)

After the fight with Kovalev Canelo was asked about his third fight with GGG. He told that he has beating GGG for already 24 rounds and not interested in boxing another round with him

C'mon we already know that the first fight was GGG.

@bisdak40 - he can stay in LHW because that is one of the weakest division.

@Kasabus - I doubt that Mayweather vs Canelo will happen, I mean Canelo can't even squeeze his body to 154 lbs and Floyd's best weight is 147 lbs.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 05, 2019, 05:24:50 AM

How about Canelo vs Mayweather rematch?

As far as I know Mayweather is also signed in DAZN somehow. As I understand both Canelo and Floyd are mostly interested in money, than on showing boxing skills, so it is up to DAZN to make an offer for both of them

Last time I've heard about Mayweather was "FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. SAYS HE'S WORKING ON AN EXHIBITION FIGHT VS. MANNY PACQUIAO IN TOKYO". So if they both decides to fight, then it wont be soon.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 05, 2019, 04:49:39 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 05, 2019, 04:32:43 AM

He has said many times prior that he don't want to face GGG for a trilogy. It was Oscar who are pushing for it (obviously for money.)

After the fight with Kovalev Canelo was asked about his third fight with GGG. He told that he has beating GGG for already 24 rounds and not interested in boxing another round with him

LOL, GGG should be heated with that one, I mean no respect but I like to see both fighters fight again as what Canelo think was different from what the judges think. How about Canelo vs Mayweather rematch? people are just always talking about MAYPAC, how about this one?

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 05, 2019, 04:32:43 AM

Interesting to note though that he mentioned after the fight with Kovalev is that he wanted to stay at LHW and doesn't want to lose weight. In that case, they he should clean up that division to be considered as the best fighters of this era.

He also said prior to the Kovalev fight that he would go back to middleweight but if he decided to stay at LHW then that would be the bravest decision he has made in his career lol. As i've said before, Kovalev is the weakest amongst the LHW champion, had he fought Kovalev 3 years ago, the outcome could be different. Facing Dmitry Bivol or Ward would be tough for Canelo but if he persist then that would be a good fight.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 05, 2019, 04:32:43 AM

He has said many times prior that he don't want to face GGG for a trilogy. It was Oscar who are pushing for it (obviously for money.)

After the fight with Kovalev Canelo was asked about his third fight with GGG. He told that he has beating GGG for already 24 rounds and not interested in boxing another round with him

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Props to Canelo for that vicious KO, Kovalev will probably be eating through a straw for a few weeks after getting his jaw knocked off his face.

Just saw an interview with him. Sitting smiling, chatting. Everything is fine with his jaw. How much did he got ? 5kk $ ? The guy just sold belt for 5kk$ and now can retire for couple of years Grin

The guy is 36 years only, but looks 45+

Hah, probably this is his biggest pay check to date. So I'm sure he can smile when he cash it out. Yes, Props to Canelo for the KO he is a monster, who's on Oscar's stable of middleweight to light heavy that can Canelo toy for his next fight?

There's no money in Light heavy weight division.

If Canelo wanted to get another big paycheck here, then obviously he should go to GGG for the trilogy.

He said the was mad for stripping him of his Middle weight belt and blames Oscar for that. And now that GGG has that belt then the logical choice is get in the ring with GGG get his belt back and end their their trilogy with a big win. He will always be questioned about it, and as much as he doesn't want to talk about it, media and boxing fans are going to ask for that fight.

He has said many times prior that he don't want to face GGG for a trilogy. It was Oscar who are pushing for it (obviously for money.)

He can face anyone between 160-175 lbs as he still holds some belts, on middleweight and super MW and now LHW.

Interesting to note though that he mentioned after the fight with Kovalev is that he wanted to stay at LHW and doesn't want to lose weight. In that case, they he should clean up that division to be considered as the best fighters of this era.

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Quote from: judeafante on November 05, 2019, 02:50:59 AM

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 05, 2019, 12:32:58 AM

Canelo told that he rejects this belt, because he is going back to his weight division.

I saw this one coming, Canelo can't stay in the Light Heavyweight Division. He will be destroyed by Ward if the latter will un-retire.

Next fight for him is the trilogy with GGG and it's the best move for him if i were his handler.

If Canelo can stay on in the light heavyweight that could make Ward come back, and this could be a making of a mega-fight and huge paycheck, but if his team advised him to stay and go back in the middleweight, we can consider that it's about money, Kovalev can come back as a champion he is not really that old.

Of course this man is still has the strong potential to fight even for younger fighters, and with his performances I bet he can still knock them out. It's kind of money issues why they came up to that decision moving back to that certain division. Most probably there's a serious reason for that, and I guess that's a confidential information behind their part. In the long run we will find it our sooner.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 05, 2019, 02:43:37 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 05, 2019, 12:32:58 AM

Canelo told that he rejects this belt, because he is going back to his weight division.

I saw this one coming, Canelo can't stay in the Light Heavyweight Division. He will be destroyed by Ward if the latter will un-retire.

Next fight for him is the trilogy with GGG and it's the best move for him if i were his handler.

If Canelo can stay on in the light heavyweight that could make Ward come back, and this could be a making of a mega-fight and huge paycheck, but if his team advised him to stay and go back in the middleweight, we can consider that it's about money, Kovalev can come back as a champion he is not really that old.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 05, 2019, 12:32:58 AM

Canelo told that he rejects this belt, because he is going back to his weight division.

I saw this one coming, Canelo can't stay in the Light Heavyweight Division. He will be destroyed by Ward if the latter will un-retire.

Next fight for him is the trilogy with GGG and it's the best move for him if i were his handler.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 04, 2019, 05:00:57 PM

Hah, probably this is his biggest pay check to date. So I'm sure he can smile when he cash it out.

It is obvious that both Canelo an Kovalev did this all for money. Kovalev is smiling in the post fight interview all the time, Canelo told that he rejects this belt, because he is going back to his weight division.

Guys just made money and 1 danz contract fight. They are now 1 fight closer to freedom Grin

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Quote from: DarkDays on November 04, 2019, 08:02:54 AM

Props to Canelo for that vicious KO, Kovalev will probably be eating through a straw for a few weeks after getting his jaw knocked off his face.

Just saw an interview with him. Sitting smiling, chatting. Everything is fine with his jaw. How much did he got ? 5kk $ ? The guy just sold belt for 5kk$ and now can retire for couple of years Grin

The guy is 36 years only, but looks 45+

Hah, probably this is his biggest pay check to date. So I'm sure he can smile when he cash it out. Yes, Props to Canelo for the KO he is a monster, who's on Oscar's stable of middleweight to light heavy that can Canelo toy for his next fight?

There's no money in Light heavy weight division.

If Canelo wanted to get another big paycheck here, then obviously he should go to GGG for the trilogy.

He said the was mad for stripping him of his Middle weight belt and blames Oscar for that. And now that GGG has that belt then the logical choice is get in the ring with GGG get his belt back and end their their trilogy with a big win. He will always be questioned about it, and as much as he doesn't want to talk about it, media and boxing fans are going to ask for that fight.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 04, 2019, 09:18:19 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on November 04, 2019, 08:02:54 AM

Props to Canelo for that vicious KO, Kovalev will probably be eating through a straw for a few weeks after getting his jaw knocked off his face.

Just saw an interview with him. Sitting smiling, chatting. Everything is fine with his jaw. How much did he got ? 5kk $ ? The guy just sold belt for 5kk$ and now can retire for couple of years Grin

The guy is 36 years only, but looks 45+

Hah, probably this is his biggest pay check to date. So I'm sure he can smile when he cash it out. Yes, Props to Canelo for the KO he is a monster, who's on Oscar's stable of middleweight to light heavy that can Canelo toy for his next fight?

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 04, 2019, 09:18:19 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on November 04, 2019, 08:02:54 AM

Props to Canelo for that vicious KO, Kovalev will probably be eating through a straw for a few weeks after getting his jaw knocked off his face.

Just saw an interview with him. Sitting smiling, chatting. Everything is fine with his jaw. How much did he got ? 5kk $ ? The guy just sold belt for 5kk$ and now can retire for couple of years Grin

The guy is 36 years only, but looks 45+

Considering that there were problems with weight, because he could not fit into the appropriate framework for weighing, it seems to me that the main goal of Kovalev was to make money and leave. Perhaps there was even no talk of a possible victory, nor was the hard work to achieve it. Nevertheless, for a fighter who is already over 35, this is the end of his career anyway.

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Quote from: DarkDays on November 04, 2019, 08:02:54 AM

Props to Canelo for that vicious KO, Kovalev will probably be eating through a straw for a few weeks after getting his jaw knocked off his face.

Just saw an interview with him. Sitting smiling, chatting. Everything is fine with his jaw. How much did he got ? 5kk $ ? The guy just sold belt for 5kk$ and now can retire for couple of years Grin

The guy is 36 years only, but looks 45+

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Another boring fight from Canelo, but it was too be expected fighting a guy much bigger than him.

I would have liked him to press the pace a big more, but fighting in light heavy for the first time it's only wise to wait and watch, rather than go on the offensive.

Props to Canelo for that vicious KO, Kovalev will probably be eating through a straw for a few weeks after getting his jaw knocked off his face.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 04, 2019, 06:30:00 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 03, 2019, 08:32:20 AM

Judges:

Dave Moretti: Alvarez: 96, Kovalev 94
Julie Lederman: Alvarez: 96, Kovalev 94
Don Trella: Alvarez: 95, Kovalev 95

So Canelo Alvarez is up on two judges by 2 points, and a draw with the third judge.

Interesting numbers. But somehow they dont reflect the situation on the ring (imho). Looking on them, it seems that they whole match was a draw, but Kovalev did well only till 4th round. Then Canelo started to work as a number 1, put more pressure and aggression, land more punches to the body. Kovalev was mostly defending with few jabs and punches.

Great performance by Canelo, he moved up in 2 weight classes and beat the class toughest representative

I agree on the judges' number, Canelo is the one pressing if you are the challenger you should be the one pressing, the challenger should take the fight to the champion, I was surprised that it ended that fast, Canelo is very patient he knew he can take him anytime, this could be the year of the Mexican's if Ruiz wins his bout against Joshua in December.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 03, 2019, 08:32:20 AM

Judges:

Dave Moretti: Alvarez: 96, Kovalev 94
Julie Lederman: Alvarez: 96, Kovalev 94
Don Trella: Alvarez: 95, Kovalev 95

So Canelo Alvarez is up on two judges by 2 points, and a draw with the third judge.

Interesting numbers. But somehow they dont reflect the situation on the ring (imho). Looking on them, it seems that they whole match was a draw, but Kovalev did well only till 4th round. Then Canelo started to work as a number 1, put more pressure and aggression, land more punches to the body. Kovalev was mostly defending with few jabs and punches.

Great performance by Canelo, he moved up in 2 weight classes and beat the class toughest representative

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 03, 2019, 08:32:20 AM

@bisdak40 - yes, our fellow kababayan Duno fell short on his bid. Perhaps this is a big lessons for him, fight strategy is very wrong, he should have try to play safe in the first round, sort of trying to read Garcia first. But I guess he is really looking for that knock out here.

Bad game plan for Duno's team, like what you've said, they should have used the first few rounds of the fight to feel if he can take the power of Garcia but instead Duno kept coming forward and not throwing that jab. I don't know if Duno could recover after this brutal loss of his young career.

Who do you think guys would be the best next fight for Canelo? Is it Ward or GGG?

Note: will lock this thread in a few hours.

Andre Ward will become a mega-fight if Andre decides to come back, but I don't want him taking to Canelo immediately, a tune-up to prepare the Canelo fight is a good option, Kovalev is a good tune-up fight for Andre Ward, I think Canelo will remain in the heavyweight Division and relinquish the middleweight, there's a lot of money to be made in that division, but the challenge is huge also.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 03, 2019, 08:32:20 AM

@bisdak40 - yes, our fellow kababayan Duno fell short on his bid. Perhaps this is a big lessons for him, fight strategy is very wrong, he should have try to play safe in the first round, sort of trying to read Garcia first. But I guess he is really looking for that knock out here.

Bad game plan for Duno's team, like what you've said, they should have used the first few rounds of the fight to feel if he can take the power of Garcia but instead Duno kept coming forward and not throwing that jab. I don't know if Duno could recover after this brutal loss of his young career.

Who do you think guys would be the best next fight for Canelo? Is it Ward or GGG?

Note: will lock this thread in a few hours.

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Quote from: aioc on November 03, 2019, 07:29:20 PM

I'm more excited in the Duno Garcia fight because of the build-up, Garcia is indeed a great potential and a good find for the golden boy promotion he passes his big test easily against Duno, but he still needs a lot of big fights I wonder if he is ready to fight Lomachenko and if the Golden Boy has planned to fit against a real champion in Loma.

Me too, actually I was the one who pointed out that potential 'big' fight as this is a co main event. Like everyone of you here, I was very very disappointment on how the match ended. I admit that I put big sum of money on Duno because I know he can upset Garcia.

But he looks like he is not ready yet, I give credit where credit is due here. Garcia at his young age will be a great boxer. Lomachenko is a big test of him and frankly Garcia is not ready yet, need to face more formidable foe and see how he response.

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