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Be aware that you might also have issues getting Electrum to run if you're on such an old macbook... Electrum requires 10.13.x or higher:

Quote from: https://electrum.org/#download

OSX (10.13 and higher)

But given you have Bitcoin Core 0.21 already installed and synced... you can easily import the private keys into that using importprivkey (or importmulti)... the only downside will be waiting for it to "rescan" the blockchain. So, if you do import into Bitcoin Core, make sure you set the "rescan" parameter on the importprivkey command to false until you import the very last key.

That way, it'll only rescan once... and not every single time you import a key Wink

EnSabahNur

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Quote from: bob123 on February 08, 2021, 12:28:55 PM

Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 10:50:37 AM

No error. Just keeps on bouncing from the dock and all of a sudden it stops...

You could try starting it from the command line.
This should show you whats going wrong.

Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 10:50:37 AM

I guess I've lost my BTCs without being able to access the wallet. I had 30,0392 bought in mid 2011

No, you didn't.

Just because you can't get armory online, doesn't mean you can't access your BTC.

Start the old version of armory which works on your computer and export the private keys.
Armory does not need to be online to do so.
Then import these wallets into another wallet (e.g. electrum; but please verify its signature before installing). You'll gain access to your BTC again.

To export your private keys from armory: Click on Wallet properties -> Backup Wallet -> Export Key List -> Check "Address String", "Private Key" and "Include unused addresses".
Feel free to check the balance of these address in a block explorer before continuing to import them into another wallet like electrum.
If you decide to use electrum -> Create a new wallet -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys". Then enter your private key(s) (without the address string).

P.s. Don't react to scam message trying to "help" you.

Thank you for the info and advice! I'll let you know as soon as I get it done.

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Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 10:50:37 AM

No error. Just keeps on bouncing from the dock and all of a sudden it stops...

You could try starting it from the command line.
This should show you whats going wrong.

Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 10:50:37 AM

I guess I've lost my BTCs without being able to access the wallet. I had 30,0392 bought in mid 2011

No, you didn't.

Just because you can't get armory online, doesn't mean you can't access your BTC.

Start the old version of armory which works on your computer and export the private keys.
Armory does not need to be online to do so.
Then import these wallets into another wallet (e.g. electrum; but please verify its signature before installing). You'll gain access to your BTC again.

To export your private keys from armory: Click on Wallet properties -> Backup Wallet -> Export Key List -> Check "Address String", "Private Key" and "Include unused addresses".
Feel free to check the balance of these address in a block explorer before continuing to import them into another wallet like electrum.
If you decide to use electrum -> Create a new wallet -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys". Then enter your private key(s) (without the address string).

P.s. Don't react to scam message trying to "help" you.

EnSabahNur

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Quote from: bob123 on February 08, 2021, 10:19:26 AM

Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 08:32:45 AM

The latest version is not opening with my OS...
I'm on an early 2011 Macbook 13".

I am not sure whether it is supposed to run on your OS, but what kind of error do you get?
Do you have all the python dependencies installed properly? If so, i'm not sure what prevents armory from starting up.

No error. Just keeps on bouncing from the dock and all of a sudden it stops...

I guess I've lost my BTCs without being able to access the wallet. I had 30,0392 bought in mid 2011

Thanks for the info though.

bob123

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Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 08:32:45 AM

The latest version is not opening with my OS...
I'm on an early 2011 Macbook 13".

I am not sure whether it is supposed to run on your OS, but what kind of error do you get?
Do you have all the python dependencies installed properly? If so, i'm not sure what prevents armory from starting up.

EnSabahNur

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Quote from: bob123 on February 08, 2021, 05:18:12 AM

Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 04:56:20 AM

Any ideas or suggestions?

Yes.
Download the latest version of Armory (0.96.5).

Where did you get version 0.93.3 from?

Thanks for the reply.
I've got it from their site.
The latest version is not opening with my OS...
I'm on an early 2011 Macbook 13".

bob123

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Quote from: EnSabahNur on February 08, 2021, 04:56:20 AM

Any ideas or suggestions?

Yes.
Download the latest version of Armory (0.96.5).

Where did you get version 0.93.3 from?

EnSabahNur

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Hello,

I'm new here.

I'm running MacOS 10.13.6
Bicoin Core 0.21.0
Armory 0.93.3

I've downloaded all blockchain and it's up and running.

Armory doesn't go online. I need help, please.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Thank you.

PhoenixZephyrus

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Quote from: HCP on January 18, 2021, 04:59:14 PM

I know you're just making a joke... but I have Edge (built on Chromium I believe) running pretty much constantly with at least 5 tabs (including Gmail), more often 10+ tabs... and a Bitcoin Core full node, Electrum + Local Electrum Server in an Ubuntu WSL instance, Steam, Discord, BNet Launcher and a bunch of other stuff running... all on my 8 year old i5 with 8 Gigs of RAM

It's not taking up ludicrous amounts of RAM, because I simply don't have that amount of RAM in my system. I'm sure if I was running 16 or 32 gigs, then it would take as much as it could get it's hands on. Applications using large amounts of "free" RAM isn't necessarily a "bad thing"™... if nothing else needs to use it Tongue

Yeah, although it was a joke, but still I've found Edge (built on Chromium, as you said) to take up quite a bit less RAM than Chrome, and yeah, its fine for a program to take up as much RAM as it needs, so long as nothing else requires that, as having tons of free RAM is nothing useful. But Chrome is significantly more memory intensive than Edge, although being built off of the same thing. I currently have 5 normal tabs (3 bitcointalk and 1 reddit, and 1 google search) and Chrome takes up ~950MB. Opening up videos will significantly push it (opening up one youtube and gmail tabs take it to ~1.2GB). It adds up pretty fast. And I've seen people keeping ~20-30 tabs open on chrome. And in general, Chrome is about ~10-25% more of a memory hog than Edge (found from my daily use as well as other community posts):

https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftEdge/comments/etpgv1/chrome_vs_new_edge_ram_usage_power_consumption/

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3513973/microsofts-new-edge-browser-third-times-the-charm.html#:~:text=Tests%20I%20ran%20using%20Task,14%25%20more%20RAM%20than%20Edge.&text=Chromium%20Edge%20is%20no%20pig,It's%20a%20very%20good%20browser.

Also, https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/web-browsers/microsoft-edge/236593/edge-memory-usage-improvements-are-coming-to-chrome-too :

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Yesterday, Microsoft revealed that the new Edge uses up to 27 percent less RAM when running on Windows 10 version 2004. But the underlying improvement comes from Windows 10, not the browser. And it looks like Chrome users will soon benefit from this as well.

“With Windows 10 [version 2004], Microsoft Edge has leveraged the Windows segment heap memory improvements now available for Win32 applications to manage memory more efficiently,” Microsoft’s Kim Denny explains. “Early internal testing results of devices on [Windows 10 version 2004] are showing a memory usage reduction of up to 27 percent when browsing with Microsoft Edge. Individual device performance will vary based upon configuration and usage, but the lower memory usage is expected to create a better experience.”

As Chrome users well know, high memory/resource usage is the number two issue with the browser, right behind the fact that it is inherently designed to be a privacy-leaking sieve designed to appease advertisers. But this problem, at least, will soon be partially solved, albeit only for those users running the browser on Windows 10 version 2004 or newer.

That was just to make sure people don't actually keep loads of tabs open while using Armory, as I've seen people keeping 50/70 tabs open up at the same time (they are nuts, how do they even manage that?! Tongue

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HCP

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I know you're just making a joke... but I have Edge (built on Chromium I believe) running pretty much constantly with at least 5 tabs (including Gmail), more often 10+ tabs... and a Bitcoin Core full node, Electrum + Local Electrum Server in an Ubuntu WSL instance, Steam, Discord, BNet Launcher and a bunch of other stuff running... all on my 8 year old i5 with 8 Gigs of RAM

And I don't have any issues running Armory.

Doing a "normal" startup:

After a "rebuild and rescan databases":

RAM usage was below 700megs during the entire "Building Databases" phase. Took ~50mins. Wink

Transaction scanning still going Tongue

Like I said... it's "a bit slow" Tongue

It's not taking up ludicrous amounts of RAM, because I simply don't have that amount of RAM in my system. I'm sure if I was running 16 or 32 gigs, then it would take as much as it could get it's hands on. Applications using large amounts of "free" RAM isn't necessarily a "bad thing"™... if nothing else needs to use it Tongue

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Quote from: HCP on January 17, 2021, 05:16:34 PM

I have an old i5-3570k with only 8Gigs... Armory works "OK" on my rig (like most things, a little "slow" Tongue

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I don't think you should have any issues with a Ryzen5 2600 and 16 Gigs Wink

Unless chrome is running in the background Tongue

HCP

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I have an old i5-3570k with only 8Gigs... Armory works "OK" on my rig (like most things, a little "slow" Tongue

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I don't think you should have any issues with a Ryzen5 2600 and 16 Gigs Wink

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Quote from: mrp123 on January 17, 2021, 06:21:22 AM

Running a Ryzen 5 2600 with 16GB Ram, should be ok.

Yeah, I'm running a Ryzen 7 4800H (8c/16t) with 16GB of ram, and Armory took about ~14.1-14.5GB of RAM and it took about ~8-10 mins when I did it correctly, with the CPU peaked at 4.17 Ghz on all cores the whole time. I had chrome open when I tried to do it a few times but it froze up, and I thought memory would be the problem. Sure enough, it was, so make sure not to run Chrome in the background. Also make sure Bitcoin Core is showing online in its client also.

Try running no background apps/start Armory after a cold boot, as it shouldn't take 6 hours and 3hours for that CPU and 16GB is plenty unless it's being used up by Chrome or something else in the background.

mrp123

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Running a Ryzen 5 2600 with 16GB Ram, should be ok.

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Quote from: mrp123 on January 15, 2021, 03:01:37 PM

I have about 10 transactions from about 8 years ago. About 150 dollars, just trying to get it out of the wallet. It takes about 6 hours to scan the database, 3 hours or so to rebuild. Just waiting now.

What kind of hardware are you using? Armory is very memory intensive while doing the scanning and rebuilding databases. So, if you don't have a good enough cpu/ your system is running out of RAM, that might be the cause why it takes so long. And just to confirm, did you do what I said and checked off "let Armory run bitcoind" and run Bitcoin Core yourself?

mrp123

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Thanks, I'll try

HCP

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Quote from: mrp123 on January 15, 2021, 03:01:37 PM

I have about 10 transactions from about 8 years ago. About 150 dollars, just trying to get it out of the wallet. It takes about 6 hours to scan the database, 3 hours or so to rebuild. Just waiting now.

Ok... if you're just wanted to get your funds out, and don't wish to continue to use Armory in the future... you might be better off just exporting your private keys from the wallet and then importing those keys into another wallet like Electrum.

I have a guide on how to export the keys here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43255691

When importing into Electrum... use the "import Bitcoin addresses or private keys" options:

And ONLY copy the WIF key part... don't copy the "PrivBase58:" part... so when you paste into Electrum, it should look like this:

NOTE: You can import multiple private keys at the same time... one per line

mrp123

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I have about 10 transactions from about 8 years ago. About 150 dollars, just trying to get it out of the wallet. It takes about 6 hours to scan the database, 3 hours or so to rebuild. Just waiting now.

HCP

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Quote from: mrp123 on January 15, 2021, 04:27:26 AM

The text is color is red, node offline 0 blocks.

It is now just stuck at scanning transaction history with empty bar and no number for percent, the number of times I have redone the scan which takes 8 hours.......

Do you have a rough idea of how many transactions you had in your Armory wallet? Huh

It can be a slow process, but it shouldn't take more than an hour or two to scan everything.

Aside from making sure that you have your wallet backup... and then doing a full "Factory Reset" (Help -> Factory Reset -> "Also delete databases and rebuild"), I'm not too sure what else to suggest. Undecided

If the Factory Reset doesn't solve it... the only other cause would be corrupt data in actual Bitcoin Core data. That would involve deleting all your Bitcoin Core blocks and resyncing from zero tho... Undecided

mrp123

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Hi, done that a few times, sometimes it seems to get stuck in Armory under initializing bitcoin engine.... will try and rebuild and rescan but it'll take a while.....

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