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Topic: CARBONCOIN: The Completely Carbon Neutral Cryptocurrency - page 20. (Read 76007 times)

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Nobody is claiming that this will "save the world" nor "end global warming"

Just one quick comment re the above: I'm certainly going to do my best to that end, whether or not it is possible.

Scrypt is bad for the environment, but ASIC's are very energy efficient, and Carboncoin's rapid halflife means that speculative, competitive mining is disincentivised on a long term basis, unlike BTC which has been shown to use more electricity the higher the price goes due to the increased profitabilty of mining (I should say compared to fiat currency and conventional banking it is still MUCH more efficient, and in no way do I mean to do it down - I just wish to use the value generation mechanism of this technology as a force for good, without using energy unnecessarily). I also would like to see wealth generated in people with an environmental conscience - this is far better than it being in the hands of bankers, oil speculators etc in my opinion.

What we will achieve with the adoption of this coin in terms of the environment is a viable, workable, non-legislative, non-punitive alternative to carbon credits as one way to tackle the problem of soaring emissions.  It's a bit bigger than a few trees in a field. That said the 2300 native British hardwoods in Hampshire are doing very well. We will be visiting with a few members of the community in mid September to see how they are coming along.

Due to the way the Carboncoin has developed - partly in relation to it's acceptance (or lack thereof) by many of the bitcoin community initially, coins will be released from the environmental wallet (effectively an early adopter currently holding about 4.5% of all the coins ever http://carbonchain.info/address/LFsTe6yRk1TXuGGW6kKwG8L3N4pkx5b6Do - not premined but donated by the community out of pure altruism) at a point when we are in the mainstream, because it is only then that The Carboncoin Trust will be able to achieve what we need to for the environment.

Due to the timing of the seasons, saplings to be planted this winter actually need to be seeded this or early next month so it is unlikely that we will be able to plant any this year, however with things happening the way they are we should be able to more than compensate for it next year. The fact remains that between here and Wyoming we have space and planning for over a million trees, this is arranged and it is just a case of producing and planting saplings, but I don't want to stop there. I want to fill that up then find more land and keep on going. It wont just be forests either - we will plant natural carbon sink ecosystems which we will construct having sponsored research in the academic community on exactly the best way to do so.

If anyone wants to talk about a fiat/btc donation in the next fortnight so we can plant a notional amount of saplings this year then as ever get in touch but as I said by next year we should be well on our way to making a real difference and a genuine positive impact with Carboncoin on its own.

Onwards and upwards!
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Yes you are ranting but thats your thing...

Actually nobody here  agrees with what you are saying......

Nobody is claiming that this will "save the world" nor "end global warming"

You do make a point, mining is becoming a problem in regards to electrical usage, SCRYPT mining is the worst form of that but, put together all the altcoins out there and compare it to bitcoin and the network hashrates are really a drop in the bucket.

None the less, its the only coin out there that does something about it by addressing the problem.

Actually the entire bitcoin network uses about 1/5 of the electrical output of a standard coal burning power plant. Thats allot but it does not take that many trees to offset that.

There are measures being taken to reduce "this" coins footprint even further.

I am happy that you take our planetary carbon crisis seriously, so do I as do most members of our small community. The OP of this thread is not a competing vineyard, as you might know the sunny UK has some of the worst grape growing conditions on earth.

I also stated that his tree plantation in the UK resembles other hardwood plantations including mine. Plus correct me if I am wrong but dont grape vines need trellises?
He has really bent over backwards to provide proof of his projects and yes Axis Mundi is a nice guy. Not just my opinion, if you knew him better you might think the same.

It's comical that you and DimitrusAstroBlack who's sole mission in life is to troll this thread, constantly try to convince people that this coin is a scam. You are the only 2 users that are negative about its concept so I disagree with your statement that "everyone here" agrees that its a scam.

If that's your opinion, that's ok. If you think you can do it better give it a try with your own coin. Maybe Carboncoin gives you some inspiration.

 
  
legendary
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The core concept of this scam is so utterly ridiculous it just blows me away !
a massive gaping hole.. you can't burn electricity mining a clone coin to negate the effects of carbon emissions.. that is pure nonsense !
The very core concept of this coin if flawed to the core !

You are so stupid that I don't even know what to say. Yes, you use electricity, but the carbon dioxide introduced by the production of that electricity is offset over time by the planted trees which take in CO2. You would have a valid point if no-one donated to the funds, but sorry to burst your bubble, they do.
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"You just don't make any valid points with this ranting."

you said ?

YOU can say that but everyone here will agree with me 100% .
and my rant is you trying take what i said and characterized it as a rant for negative effect
and in reality what happened is i posted 1 negative aspect about this coin but on the fly kept thinking of another .. over and over
i buried your scam coin.. i did not "rant".

the points i made are very much valid.
and ohh yes... i have more Wink

like the very first one i posted here..
i asked the coin dev here how is it that asking us all to scrypt mine a coin burning electricity is going to offset carbon emissions by planting trees ?
You would need to plant a LOT of trees just to offset the electricity burned from the scrypt mining alone never mind going above that (the coin gimmick)
and even further from that we have as i pointed out long ago a huge massive hole in this gimmick, which is..
when the mining is scaled up larger and larger you would have to plant more and more tree's
and that is simply not sustainable and i called it looooong ago on here..
what will happen is the dev will simply keep CHANGING THINGS.
he will go from a tree per block planted down to nothing planted.
it's a scam period .

and posting pictures of grape vines to show me how legit this is is hilarious LOL
you fucked up !
I happen to have my name on a famous world renown bottle of wine and happen to know what a Vineyard looks like HAHAHAH
busted !

..dev claiming to have tree's "professionally" planted  Roll Eyes

and you wanna know what bothers me the most is the Carbon problem is a concern of mine too and i don't appreciate
coin cloning scammers trying to use the global problem as a gimmick to get Bitcoins from gullible idiots with an illegal Ponzi scheme.
You belittle the seriousness of the problem for $$$
Want to help ? ignore this coin and go plant a tree..
Or don't mine a scrypt clone coin burning electricity.. that would be FAR more helpful than doing this shit.

The core concept of this scam is so utterly ridiculous it just blows me away !
a massive gaping hole.. you can't burn electricity mining a clone coin to negate the effects of carbon emissions.. that is pure nonsense !
The very core concept of this coin if flawed to the core !

and you want to talk about YOUR rant guy above me ? your points are some bullshit about Axis being a nice guy ?
did you refute any assertion i made ? or did you side step it all and try and discredit me ?
did that make your coin legit yet ?

TOPIC change:
I have had some coins that went no where or *almost no where and you gotta suck it up and move on.. get it ?
and i mean Cryptobits or Maru Coin.. for example.
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Spoetnik,

Look no offense, I like a good glass of wine. Didn't know that BC was such a producing region but OK.
You just don't make any valid points with this ranting. I've had pretty good contact with the OP over the last months. He has a couple of tree projects that are small in the global re-forestation context but considerable from a production standpoint.

I plant trees for profit, I also run a seed bank ( small) and (try) to reintroduce native species n the Amazon. Its riddled with problems and forest engineers as well as universities don't have all the answers. 
Axis Mundi's tree planting layout is very similar to how I plant tropical hardwoods.
My system is nothing new as well, I like to think I do it well but 1000's of others that do the same.

As for the coin, yes it was premined but not by the OP. It was taken over by someone else and in my opinion did a great job with it.
If you wanted to mine it today you could. If you bought some earlier its worth more today then then a few months ago.

If it was such a scam coin as you claim we would have had a huge P&D like so many other coins out there. This is also not the case. Look at the charts they show a slow and steady rise, a few peaks and a few dips. Volume is growing but we are still a small but growing community.

The reason this thread is on "top" as you state is that people enjoy the concept and are willing to stand by something they believe in. If you don't share the same views, respectfully state your disagreement and discuss it like a man.

I don't like right wing conservatism but am more then willing to discuss a topic with them.
Some people who I consider good friends are conservatives and that's fine.
That is what happens in democratic society.

Id love to argue with you but you just don't make any valid points in this case.

Sorry
 
legendary
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care to address they point i made or.. endlessly try and insult me for being rich, poor or somewhere in between.
why don't you guys just say "your your your your....."

i laid out that i have a family with a Winery and i know what grapes look like and i also live in Kelowna, BC, Canada.
And K-Town has around 100 wineries so all you have to is look around and you see EXACTLY what is in those 7 terabytes of pics this scammer uploaded.

you fucking insulting little brats are desperate to attack me because i posted proof your leader is a chronic scammer and a fucking liar !
he's lied about planting tree's and the pictures he uploaded prove it !
those are not tree's planted by professionals.. those are grape vines for making wine !
this Scrypt clone coin gimmick scam is doomed.

@oldminer
where is the proof i ever lied about anything ?
you on the hand have insulted me and made accusations against me simply because i criticized this coin.
back up your mouth !
attacking my credibility is not going to get you guys anywhere.. it does not make your scam coin magically legit by mouthing off Spoetnik LOL

and i have not ever worked for my family Winery but i had some tours.
point was that i KNOW what a fucking winery LOOKS like..
i was given a job offer long ago but never took them up on it.
make up your mind guys.. you keep creating new dummy accounts to mouth me off here..
some guy with no previous comments pops up and say i am a rich snob with silver spoon etc..
then you say the opposite with some other idiot shell account LOLOLOL
you have nothing on me.. and making shit up about me makes you look like an idiot.. and sure as hell does not help your scam coin here look legit.

You guys deserve to be exposed big time !
reason no. 1 ?
you keep changing your coin and the excuses and lies that go with it.
i called it a stupid scrypt clone for example and because of what i said the dev changed the coin to some other algo LOL
So i want people out there to know that these guys were prob loading 9000 GH's with scrypt asics on this scammy gimmick coin, waaaaaay back
while you NEW guys just getting in on this coin are NOW stuck mining the HARD way.. scaaaaaaaaaaaaam ...bait and switch.

i also think you guys deserve to be exposed because your outright scamming people with the whole "Go Green" concept
and in the process sitting here at Bitcointalk spamming this place hard 24/7 making sure this topic is on page 1 at all times ! (with a fake ann topic)
you are nagging us all and advertising on us all non stop.. and it's been proven to be a load of scammy bullshit on the previous pages..
and i encourage people to go back and read them !

you guys have also used this as an ANN topic but just removed the ANN prefix !
This is yet more scammy deceptive behavior.
the first post here is EXACTLY like an ANN topic and the little game here is to have this ANN topic NOT moved to the ANN section.
these guys are deceitful scammers and shit like that proves it.

if your going to harp, harass, nag, spam and advertise about this scammy gimmick clone coin crap
then we all have the right to criticize the coin.. and there is a LOT to criticize LOL

good luck suckering in noobs into your "GREEN" gimmick scam clone coin hahhaha
and new guys.. you would be wasting your time anyway.. how good do think the profitability will be on a coin from many months back is ?
It's been flashed mined and the guys sitting on them now desperately need you new guys to show up and buy their bags they are holding.
don't do it !
they will sell out to you and run for it guaranteed.


there is a huge amount of scammyness swirling around this coin and dev and future investors are going to see it all.. and not invest ever !
the dev has simply kept changing the coin based on criticism posted here.. it's a scrypt clone with a promise to plant tree's gimmick LOL
he changes the algo and posts fake tree planting pictures.. and on and on..
this is not a product designed and launched.. it's an OLD *evolving and *changing scam (failed) pyramid scheme.

wanna get in on a scam to make money ?
pick one that was not flashed mined months ago lol
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legendary
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LOL you have a winery in your family worth over 5 million and they gave you nothing  Grin
 wonder why  Grin  Grin  Grin



axismundi !  I wish I had those nice tree supports here for my African Mahogany.
I have to get by with bamboo for now.

On a serious note....

Im donating a few thousand trees to the carbon coin trust this year here in the Amazon, I will need a bit of support from the community once we are that far.

I have 6 large land owners that need to reforest over 20% of their land due to new environmental laws put in effect in Brazil 2014. I would like to put together a think tank to incorporate Carboncoin into this project.   
Axis mundi and myself have discussed this concept at length but there is allot to work out so I will be posting a topic on the official forum.

Sad to see coinedup go, best wishes to the admins and success for their future projects.


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i happen to be an heir to a winery that was started in 1969 and my Family name is on the bottle of Wine LOL
when i was born the company was worth between 5 and 6 million dollars and i have seen every step of the wine making process

That explains alot!

You are clearly a spoilt little brat with a silver spoon in your mouth and an inflated ego to match.

Look in the mirror when you are calling people idiots.

hey noob who the hell are you ? ohhhhh right nobody.  Roll Eyes

by the way i am poor and never worked at my family business for even one day.
so you fail to fuck and back little noob prick lol


Oh, poor little rich boy, getting all insulty to try squash this quick are we? Quit your wine-ing little lordship. I can see why you act like such an entitled arsehole now. back to the manor with you, go make me a fine vintage with your sour grapes.
legendary
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if it isnt a scam, which it isnt, then you lied whether intentional or not. Im sure it wasnt intentional and you believed you were doing the right thing.
legendary
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i happen to be an heir to a winery that was started in 1969 and my Family name is on the bottle of Wine LOL
when i was born the company was worth between 5 and 6 million dollars and i have seen every step of the wine making process

That explains alot!

You are clearly a spoilt little brat with a silver spoon in your mouth and an inflated ego to match.

Look in the mirror when you are calling people idiots.

hey noob who the hell are you ? ohhhhh right nobody.  Roll Eyes

by the way i am poor and never worked at my family business for even one day.
so you fail to fuck and back little noob prick lol
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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i happen to be an heir to a winery that was started in 1969 and my Family name is on the bottle of Wine LOL
when i was born the company was worth between 5 and 6 million dollars and i have seen every step of the wine making process

That explains alot!

You are clearly a spoilt little brat with a silver spoon in your mouth and an inflated ego to match.

Look in the mirror when you are calling people idiots.

lol spoetnik the douche..

he gonna want to be holding CARB soon  Grin
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i happen to be an heir to a winery that was started in 1969 and my Family name is on the bottle of Wine LOL
when i was born the company was worth between 5 and 6 million dollars and i have seen every step of the wine making process

That explains alot!

You are clearly a spoilt little brat with a silver spoon in your mouth and an inflated ego to match.

Look in the mirror when you are calling people idiots.
legendary
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legendary
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Might as well as not be on any exchange.  If you sold enough Carb on coined up to make the transaction fee of BTC worth it you would crash the price.  Coin is just about dead.

Yeah and this all shows people are not as stupid as they thought..

i harped on them about this being a stupid scrypt clone with a gimmick and he changed the algo LOL
so uhhhhhh ??
i hope new investors appreciate buying coins that were previously Scrypt Asic minable but are not now hahhaha
get it ?

oh and the gimmick part.. how is that workin' out these days ?
any proof all those millions of trees have been planted ?
i called it loooooong ago.. you guys would simply keep changing your story as time went on..
hell i am going to go back a few pages and bump what i said on this topic just to show you how fucking right i am lol

you guys look like sad pathetic bag holders who got suckered into a piece of shit scam coin clone.. hows that working out for ya ?
did ya learn anything yet ?
by the sounds of it i don't think you did.. and you same guys will repeat the same old shit again and again.
sad part is you refuse to give up so you insist on suckering in more people for no other reason than you can dump on them.
you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
rather than stopping to consider the coin is a failure you just keep holding out hope even ONE guy will show his face you can dump on and walk with his money..
pathetic !
classy guys ..real classy
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Might as well as not be on any exchange.  If you sold enough Carb on coined up to make the transaction fee of BTC worth it you would crash the price.  Coin is just about dead.
legendary
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Implemented auto-highlighting on /r/CARBCoin. Any self posts about the price will automatically highlight orange. Any self posts about the network will automatically highlight red. By self post, I mean text discussions. Links stay the same. I'm thinking of more to implement at the moment, it's useful as it will allow for specific discussions to be found easily.

You can view my progress on the stylesheet at http://www.reddit.com/r/CARBCoin/about/stylesheet.

Note to all: Move your orders to https://www.allcrypt.com/market?id=720 as CoinedUp will be closing soon.

Good work with the reddit!!
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